Talk:Sniper (EU2012): Difference between revisions

Latest revision as of 01:44, 28 July 2015

There are two open questions regarding the EW's change on Squad Sight: "Allows firing at targets in any ally's sight radius, but these targets cannot be critically hit unless using Headshot."

If you're using Snap Shot instead, can targets be critically hit without using Headshot? It seems the answer would be yes but it is something that needs confirmation.
- Of course, since you are not using Squadsight. Squadsight snipers can crit normally too, if the target is in 'normal' range. Moyang 21:05, 20 November 2013 (EST)
If you're using Squad Sight and Opportunist what happens? Can it crit on Overwatch shots or not? Hobbes 18:30, 20 November 2013 (EST)
- Answer to first question is yes. You can't take Snap Shot and Squad Sight anyhow. This wasn't changed in EW. Weird question unless I am not understanding.
- I've been playing with Training Roulette, so I haven't had a Sniper with Opportunist yet.--DracoGriffin 18:46, 20 November 2013 (EST)
  - Ah, Moyang answered was what was confusing (and my question was poorly worded). This is something that should be clarified when the Sniper's abilities are updated with the EW changes. Hobbes 21:16, 20 November 2013 (EST)

Double tap

I'm a bit confused. The description mentions Rapid Fire, but to me it sounds a lot more like Bullet Swarm... Medinoc (talk) 14:31, 27 July 2015 (EDT)

Bullet Swarm allows to fire and then fire/reload/move/etc., but with Rapid Fire or Double Tap you can only fire twice. Bullet Swarm seems, IMO, to be more powerful than both others. Hobbes (talk) 21:44, 27 July 2015 (EDT)

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+There are two open questions regarding the EW's change on Squad Sight: "Allows firing at targets in any ally's sight radius, but these targets cannot be critically hit unless using Headshot."
+*If you're using Snap Shot instead, can targets be critically hit without using Headshot? It seems the answer would be yes but it is something that needs confirmation.
+** Of course, since you are not using Squadsight. Squadsight snipers can crit normally too, if the target is in 'normal' range. [[User:Moyang|Moyang]] 21:05, 20 November 2013 (EST)
+*If you're using Squad Sight and Opportunist what happens? Can it crit on Overwatch shots or not? [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 18:30, 20 November 2013 (EST)
+**Answer to first question is yes. You can't take Snap Shot and Squad Sight anyhow. This wasn't changed in EW. Weird question unless I am not understanding.
+**I've been playing with Training Roulette, so I haven't had a Sniper with Opportunist yet.--[[User:DracoGriffin|DracoGriffin]] 18:46, 20 November 2013 (EST)
+***Ah, Moyang answered was what was confusing (and my question was poorly worded). This is something that should be clarified when the Sniper's abilities are updated with the EW changes. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 21:16, 20 November 2013 (EST)
-{| class="wikitable" width="80%"
+== Double tap ==
-|-
-! width="10%" align="center" | Rank
-! width="60%" align="center" colspan="4"| Ability
-|- align="center"
+I'm a bit confused. The description mentions Rapid Fire, but to me it sounds a lot more like Bullet Swarm... [[User:Medinoc|Medinoc]] ([[User talk:Medinoc|talk]]) 14:31, 27 July 2015 (EDT)
-! rowspan="1" | [[File:RANK SQUADDIE.png|32px]]<br/>'''Squaddie'''
+: Bullet Swarm allows to fire and then fire/reload/move/etc., but with Rapid Fire or Double Tap you can only fire twice. Bullet Swarm seems, IMO, to be more powerful than both others. [[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] ([[User talk:Hobbes|talk]]) 21:44, 27 July 2015 (EDT)
-| colspan="3" | [[File:SNIPER HEADSHOT.png|32px|left]]'''Headshot''' <br/>  ''Fire a shot with +30% critical chance and extra damage on critical hits based on the tech level of the sniper rifle. 2 turn cooldown.''
-| width="10%" | [[File:ABILITY_AIM1.png|32px|+30CAL]][[File: ALIEN CLUSTERBOMB1.png|32px|+TCDL]] [[File:ABILITY_AIM2.png|32px|+30CAL]][[File: ALIEN CLUSTERBOMB2.png|32px|+TCDL]]
-|- align="center"
-! rowspan="1" | [[File:RANK CORPORAL.png|32px]]<br/>'''Corporal'''
-| width="30%" | [[File:SNIPER SNAPSHOT.png|32px|left]]'''Snap Shot''' <br/>  ''Removes the sniper rifle's restriction on firing and Overwatch after moving. Any shots taken suffer a -20 Aim penalty.''
-| width="10%" | [[File:ABILITY_UNKNOWN201.png|32px|S]][[File:ABILITY AIM1.png|32px|-20A]]
-| width="30%" | [[File:SNIPER SQUADSIGHT.png|32px|left]]'''Squad Sight''' <br/>  ''Allows firing at targets in any ally's sight radius.''
-| width="10%" | [[File:ABILITY AIM2.png|32px|AL]]
-|- align="center"
-! rowspan="1" | [[File:RANK SERGEANT.png|32px]]<br/>'''Sergeant'''
-| width="30%" | [[File:SNIPER GUNSLINGER.png|32px|left]]'''Gunslinger''' <br/> ''Confers 2 bonus damage with pistols.''
-| width="10%" | [[File:ALIEN CLUSTERBOMB1.png|32px|+2DL]]
-| width="30%" | [[File:SNIPER_DGG.png|32px|left]]'''Damn Good Ground''' <br/> ''+10 Aim and +10 Defense against enemies at lower elevation in addition to the usual elevation bonuses.'' (including while flying)
-| width="10%" | [[File:ABILITY AIM2.png|32px|+10AL]][[File:ABILITY HUNKERDOWN2.png|32px|A-10L]]
-|- align="center"
-! rowspan="1" | [[File:RANK LIEUTENANT.png|32px]]<br/>'''Lieutenant'''
-| width="30%" | [[File:SNIPER DISABLINGSHOT.png|32px|left]]'''Disabling Shot''' <br/> ''Allows the Sniper to fire a shot that causes the target's main weapon to malfunction. The target may use Reload to fix the weapon. The shot cannot inflict a critical hit. 2 turn cooldown.'' (-10 Aim, reduced Damage)
-| width="10%" | [[File:ABILITY AIM1.png|32px|-10A]][[File:ALIEN CLUSTERBOMB1.png|32px|-100CDL]]
-| width="30%" | [[File:SNIPER BATTLESCANNER.png|32px|left]]'''Battle Scanner''' <br/> ''Scanning device, when thrown creates a new source of vision for 2 turns. Can only be used 2 times per battle.''
-| width="10%" | [[File:ABILITY AIM2.png|32px|AL]]
-|- align="center"
-! rowspan="1" | [[File:RANK CAPTAIN.png|32px]]<br/>'''Captain'''
-| width="30%" | [[File:SNIPER EXECUTIONER.png|32px|left]]'''Executioner''' <br/> ''+10% Aim against targets with less than 50% Health.''
-| width="10%" | [[File:ABILITY AIM1.png|32px|+10AL]]
-| width="30%" | [[File:SNIPER OPPORTUNIST.png|32px|left]]'''Opportunist''' <br/> ''Eliminates the Aim penalty on reaction shots, and allows reaction shots to cause critical hits.''
-| width="10%" | [[File:ABILITY_OVERWATCH2.png|32px|RC]][[File:ABILITY AIM2.png|32px|+20A]]
-|- align="center"
-! rowspan="1" | [[File:RANK MAJOR.png|32px]]<br/>'''Major'''
-| colspan="3" | [[File:SNIPER_LOWPROFILE.png|32px|left]]'''Low Profile''' <br/> ''Makes partial cover count as full.''
-| width="10%" | [[File:ABILITY HUNKERDOWN1.png|32px|-A20]] [[File:ABILITY HUNKERDOWN2.png|32px|-A20]]
-|- align="center"
-! rowspan="1" | [[File:RANK COLONEL.png|32px]]<br/>'''Colonel'''
-| width="30%" | [[File:SNIPER_ITZ.png|32px|left]]'''In The Zone''' <br/>'' Killing a flanked or uncovered target with the sniper rifle does not cost an action.'' (applies only once to Pistols)
-| width="10%" | [[File:ABILITY_UNKNOWN201.png|32px|SL]]
-| width="30%" | [[File:SNIPER_DOUBLETAP.png|32px|left]]'''Double Tap''' <br/> ''Allows both actions to be used for Standard Shot, Headshot, or Disable Shot, provided no moves were made. 1 turn cooldown.'' (Can't be used with ''Snap Shot'')
-| width="10%" | [[File:ABILITY_UNKNOWN202.png|32px|SL]]
-|}
-{| class="wikitable" width="80%"
-|+ KEYCHART
-|-
-! width="10%" align="center" | [[File:ABILITY UNKNOWN20.png|32px]]
-! width="10%" align="center" | [[File:ABILITY OVERWATCH.png|32px]]
-! width="10%" align="center" | [[File:ABILITY MOVE.png|32px]]
-! width="10%" align="center" | [[File:ABILITY GRENADE.png|32px]]
-! width="10%" align="center" | [[File:ABILITY AIM.png|32px]]
-! width="10%" align="center" | [[File:ABILITY HUNKERDOWN.png|32px]]
-! width="10%" align="center" | [[File:ALIEN CLUSTERBOMB.png|32px]]
-! width="10%" align="center" | [[File:ABILITY HARDENED.png|32px]]
-|-
-|- style="vertical-align:top;"
-|-
-| align="center" | Additional Shot || align="center" | Improves Reaction || align="center" | Extra Movement || align="center" | Additional Equipment || align="center" | Change Unit Aim || align="center" | Decrease Enemy Aim || align="center" | Change Damage Given || align="center" | Decrease Damage Taken
-|-
-|}