Talk:Engineering (EU2012): Difference between revisions

Latest revision as of 12:20, 12 August 2016

Prerequisite and Cost

This data is misleading, since the projects don't actually cost/consume Engineers but rather require a minimum of them to be able to be built. It would be better to structure the data in this way: Also Duration' is better described with Build Time.

Facilities
Facility	Description	Requirements	Cost	Maintenance	Bonus	Build Time
Access Lift	Required to access a level.	None	§50 2 Power	§10 month	None	5d
Satellite Uplink	With the signal monitored by a team of engineers, each Satellite Uplink is capable of receiving transmissions from 2 XCOM satellites.	10 Engineers	§150 5 Power	-	+1 Satellite capacity for every two uplinks constructed adjacent to another.	Unknown
Satellite Nexus	With the signal monitored by a team of engineers, each Satellite Nexus is capable of receiving transmissions from 4 XCOM satellites.	Alien Nav Computer 25 Engineers	§300 8 Power 25x Alloys 2x UFO Flight Computer	§26 month	+1 Satellite capacity for every adjacent uplink.	21d

Engineers have been moved from "cost" to "prerequisite"; "duration" header replaced with "build time" Jarcionek 15:39, 20 October 2012 (EDT)

The engineers requirements listed for uplink/workshop/nexus are wrong - it depends on how many you already have built. Momerathe 05:27, 12 October 2012 (EDT)

Corrected Jarcionek 15:39, 20 October 2012 (EDT)

ToDo: is there a simple rule-of-thumb that determines Foundry projects vs. Research projects? eg a sentence like "all equipment requiring elerium is researched at the Foundry Off the Rails 04:06, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

Some base facilities requirements are wrong -- Foundry requires research, and laboratories and workshops require that you acquire at least one scientist/engineer beyond the initial ones, Trenchie 04:50, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

I have updated all the buildings (including finding the formulas for required number of engineers etc.): http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Base_Facilities_%28EU2012%29 Jarcionek 09:44, 19 October 2012 (EDT)

I have corrected required number of engineers on this page. Research required to build Foundry seems to be fine. Is there anything else incorrect? Jarcionek 15:39, 20 October 2012 (EDT)

Inflection point

Function for final cost (as function of number of total engineers) doesn't have any inflection points. It's, roughly, 1+1/x function and it is convex function. --Miteusz (talk) 08:20, 12 August 2016 (EDT)

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-I have a potential formula for manufacturing costs:
+== Prerequisite and Cost ==
-final cost = round down [ base cost x 0.5 x (1+ (engineers required / total engineers) ) ]
+This data is misleading, since the projects don't actually cost/consume Engineers but rather require a minimum of them to be able to be built. It would be better to structure the data in this way:
-. It needs to be tested! [[User:Momerathe|Momerathe]] 17:33, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
+Also '''Duration''' is better described with '''Build Time''.
+{| class="wikitable" width="100%"
+|+ Facilities
+|-
+! width="15%" align="center" | Facility
+! width="25%" align="center" | Description
+! width="10%" align="center" | Requirements
+! width="10%" align="center" | Cost
+! width="10%" align="center" | Maintenance
+! width="20%" align="center" | Bonus
+! width="10%" align="center" | Build Time
+|- style="vertical-align:top;"
+|-
+| align="center" | Access Lift || align="center" | Required to access a level. || align="center" | None || align="center" | §50<br/>2 Power || align="center" | §10 month || align="center" | None || align="center" | 5d
+|-
+| align="center" | Satellite Uplink || align="center" | With the signal monitored by a team of engineers, each Satellite Uplink is capable of receiving transmissions from 2 XCOM satellites. || align="center" | 10 Engineers || align="center" | §150<br/>5 Power || align="center" | - || align="center" | +1 Satellite capacity for every two uplinks constructed adjacent to another. || align="center" | Unknown
+|-
+| align="center" | Satellite Nexus || align="center" | With the signal monitored by a team of engineers, each Satellite Nexus is capable of receiving transmissions from 4 XCOM satellites. || align="center" | Alien Nav Computer<br/> 25 Engineers || align="center" | §300<br/>8 Power<br/>25x Alloys<br/>2x UFO Flight Computer || align="center" | §26 month || align="center" | +1 Satellite capacity for every adjacent uplink. || align="center" | 21d
+|}
+:Engineers have been moved from "cost" to "prerequisite"; "duration" header replaced with "build time" [[User:Jarcionek|Jarcionek]] 15:39, 20 October 2012 (EDT)
 The engineers requirements listed for uplink/workshop/nexus are wrong - it depends on how many you already have built. [[User:Momerathe|Momerathe]] 05:27, 12 October 2012 (EDT)
+:Corrected [[User:Jarcionek|Jarcionek]] 15:39, 20 October 2012 (EDT)
+''ToDo: is there a simple rule-of-thumb that determines Foundry projects vs. Research projects? eg a sentence like "all equipment requiring elerium is researched at the Foundry'' [[User:Off the Rails|Off the Rails]] 04:06, 15 October 2012 (EDT)
+Some base facilities requirements are wrong -- Foundry requires research, and laboratories and workshops require that you acquire at least one scientist/engineer beyond the initial ones, [[User:Trenchie|Trenchie]] 04:50, 15 October 2012 (EDT)
+:I have updated all the buildings (including finding the formulas for required number of engineers etc.): http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Base_Facilities_%28EU2012%29 [[User:Jarcionek|Jarcionek]] 09:44, 19 October 2012 (EDT)
+::I have corrected required number of engineers on this page. Research required to build Foundry seems to be fine. Is there anything else incorrect? [[User:Jarcionek|Jarcionek]] 15:39, 20 October 2012 (EDT)
+== Inflection point ==
+Function for final cost (as function of number of total engineers) doesn't have any inflection points. It's, roughly, 1+1/x function and it is convex function. --[[User:Miteusz|Miteusz]] ([[User talk:Miteusz|talk]]) 08:20, 12 August 2016 (EDT)