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Hobbes: categorizing

2013-07-23T03:09:02Z

categorizing

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Hajo at 19:27, 24 July 2009

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	All units in the [[Info#Battlescape\|Battlescape]] have an ownership flag (i.e. belongs to Alien, X-Com, Civilian), and a flag that tells the game that the unit is currently under mind control (which is a binary flag and contains Yes/No, True/False or if you prefer, zero or non-zero values only).		All units in the [[Info#Battlescape\|Battlescape]] have an ownership flag (i.e. belongs to Alien, X-Com, Civilian), and a flag that tells the game that the unit is currently under mind control (which is a binary flag and contains Yes/No, True/False or if you prefer, zero or non-zero values only).

	When a unit is mind controlled, the ownership flag is automatically set to the mind controller's side and the temporary mind control flag is set to true. At the end of the turn, the game checks all units to se if they've got the temporary mind control flag set to true. If found, it is set to false, and then the ownership flag is flipped to the other team's side.		When a unit is mind controlled, the ownership flag is automatically set to the mind controller's side and the temporary mind control flag is set to true.
			At the end of the turn, the game checks all units to see if they've got the temporary mind control flag set to true. If found, it is set to false, and then the ownership flag is flipped to the other team's side.

	The ownership flags look like the following:		The ownership flags look like the following:
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	Civilian = 2		Civilian = 2

	On the computer, true/false statements are done with 1's and 0's. 1's are actually meant to be non-zero valus, and can be be any number except 0's.		On the computer, true/false statements are done with 1's and 0's.
			1's are actually meant to be non-zero valus, and can be be any number except 0's.

	So, when you mind control a civilian, their flag changes to Owner = 0, Under Mind Control = 1		So, when you mind-control a civilian, their flag changes to Owner = 0, Under Mind Control = 1

	At the end of the turn, the game finds that the civilian is under mind control, it sets this to 0 and flips the ownership flag from a 0 to a non-zero. This is done by a simply binary NOT function (or a set of conditional statements that effectively achieve the same thing).		At the end of the turn, the game finds that the civilian is under mind control, it sets this to 0 and flips the ownership flag from a 0 to a non-zero. This is done by a simply binary NOT function (or a set of conditional statements that effectively achieve the same thing).
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	It's almost as if civilians were either added in as an afterthought, or the programmers never ever expected players were going to use mind control on the civilians (aliens don't do it on civilians as a general rule - not that they possibly could not, they just don't have any instructions to do so).		It's almost as if civilians were either added in as an afterthought, or the programmers never ever expected players were going to use mind control on the civilians (aliens don't do it on civilians as a general rule - not that they possibly could not, they just don't have any instructions to do so).

	For scoring purposes, civilians killed when they are under civilian control will deduct a certain amount of points from your final score. However, a civilian under alien control (or your control, if you manage to fudge things a bit with [[ExploitsB#Zombie.27s_Permanent_Control_of_Aliens_via_Stunning\|Zombie's stun/Mind Control combination]]) will only add or subtract their 'unit value' to the score. Because their unit value is 0, they cost nothing.		For scoring purposes, civilians killed when they are under civilian control will deduct a certain amount of points from your final score. However, a civilian under alien control (or your control, if you manage to fudge things a bit with [[ExploitsB#Zombie.27s_Permanent_Control_of_Aliens_via_Stunning\|Zombie's stun/Mind Control combination]]) will only add or subtract their 'unit value' to the score.
			Because their unit value is 0, they cost nothing.

	A unit value is a number all your units get that tells the game how much to add or subtract when soldiers or aliens are killed. Civilians have this too. However scores are also awarded in other ways.		A unit value is a number all your units get that tells the game how much to add or subtract when soldiers or aliens are killed. Civilians have this too.
			However scores are also awarded in other ways.

	That's it in an overly elaborate nutshell.		That's it in an overly elaborate nutshell.

Zombie: Wikified mention of permanent MC.

2008-04-22T01:40:11Z

Wikified mention of permanent MC.

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	It's almost as if civilians were either added in as an afterthought, or the programmers never ever expected players were going to use mind control on the civilians (aliens don't do it on civilians as a general rule - not that they possibly could not, they just don't have any instructions to do so).		It's almost as if civilians were either added in as an afterthought, or the programmers never ever expected players were going to use mind control on the civilians (aliens don't do it on civilians as a general rule - not that they possibly could not, they just don't have any instructions to do so).

	For scoring purposes, civilians killed when they are under civilian control will deduct a certain amount of points from your final score. However, a civilian under alien control (or your control, if you manage to fudge things a bit with Zombie's stun/Mind Control combination) will only add or subtract their 'unit value' to the score. Because their unit value is 0, they cost nothing.		For scoring purposes, civilians killed when they are under civilian control will deduct a certain amount of points from your final score. However, a civilian under alien control (or your control, if you manage to fudge things a bit with [[ExploitsB#Zombie.27s_Permanent_Control_of_Aliens_via_Stunning\|Zombie's stun/Mind Control combination]]) will only add or subtract their 'unit value' to the score. Because their unit value is 0, they cost nothing.

	A unit value is a number all your units get that tells the game how much to add or subtract when soldiers or aliens are killed. Civilians have this too. However scores are also awarded in other ways.		A unit value is a number all your units get that tells the game how much to add or subtract when soldiers or aliens are killed. Civilians have this too. However scores are also awarded in other ways.

Danial at 13:17, 24 December 2005

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	All units in the [[Battlescape]] have an ownership flag (i.e. belongs to Alien, X-Com, Civilian), and a flag that tells the game that the unit is currently under mind control (which is a binary flag and contains Yes/No, True/False or if you prefer, zero or non-zero values only).		All units in the [[Info#Battlescape\|Battlescape]] have an ownership flag (i.e. belongs to Alien, X-Com, Civilian), and a flag that tells the game that the unit is currently under mind control (which is a binary flag and contains Yes/No, True/False or if you prefer, zero or non-zero values only).

	When a unit is mind controlled, the ownership flag is automatically set to the mind controller's side and the temporary mind control flag is set to true. At the end of the turn, the game checks all units to se if they've got the temporary mind control flag set to true. If found, it is set to false, and then the ownership flag is flipped to the other team's side.		When a unit is mind controlled, the ownership flag is automatically set to the mind controller's side and the temporary mind control flag is set to true. At the end of the turn, the game checks all units to se if they've got the temporary mind control flag set to true. If found, it is set to false, and then the ownership flag is flipped to the other team's side.

NKF at 10:55, 17 November 2005

2005-11-17T10:55:28Z

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-If you [[Mind Control]] a [[Civilian]], next turn he will be owned by the Aliens and your are forced to kill him.
+All units in the [[Battlescape]] have an ownership flag (i.e. belongs to Alien, X-Com, Civilian), and a flag that tells the game that the unit is currently under mind control (which is a binary flag and contains Yes/No, True/False or if you prefer, zero or non-zero values only).
 ==A Good Intention==
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 That might explain a few things....

Danial at 07:53, 16 November 2005

2005-11-16T07:53:04Z

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	~~Hmm~~, ~~anyone know what a "persuadatron" is? Now apply this~~ to ~~a turn-based game~~.		If you [[Mind Control]] a [[Civilian]], next turn he will be owned by the Aliens and your are forced to kill him.

	now ~~for the real article~~:		==A Good Intention==
			'''[the scene]''' Terror mission out near Arkansas, USA. Sectoid Race interrupting the local Hicksville sunday markets where car-parts and moonshine are generally traded. Xcom Command received the terror alert and are just landing on the road one city block away. Skyranger craft equipped with seven local lads who joined up to 'protect America and kick some Alien butt'. The story now unfolds:

	~~if you m.c a civilian next turn he will be owned by the aliens and your are forced to kill him.~~		'''Sarge:''' Awriight gurls, git orf my ship and kick some ass

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	'''~~A Good Intention~~:'''

	[the secene] Terror mission out near Arkansas, USA. Sectoid Race interrupting the local Hicksville sunday markets where car-parts and moonshine are generally traded. Xcom Command received the terror alert and are just landing on the road one city block away. Skyranger craft equipped with seven local lads who joined up to 'protect America and kick some Alien butt'. The story now unfolds:

	~~Sarge:~~ Awriight gurls, git orf my ship and kick some ass
	[three Soldiers jump off the ramp and take position near the landing gear]		[three Soldiers jump off the ramp and take position near the landing gear]

	Bubba: Hey Sarge, I see a god damn varmit!		'''Bubba:''' Hey Sarge, I see a god damn varmit!

	Billy-Ray: Careful there Bubba, those yer-aliens, there smart.		'''Billy-Ray:''' Careful there Bubba, those yer-aliens, there smart.

	Sarge: Not as smart as me, i'll show em'		'''Sarge:''' Not as smart as me, i'll show em'
	[whips out the Psi-amp, whilst Bubba readies a shot from his Laser Rifle]		[whips out the Psi-amp, whilst Bubba readies a shot from his Laser Rifle]

	Bubba: Damn, I missed ... HOLD UP!. I see some city-folk milling around. GIT AWAY yer fools.		'''Bubba:''' Damn, I missed ... HOLD UP!. I see some city-folk milling around. GIT AWAY yer fools.
	[the cilivians are being attacked with plasma fire from a Sectiod Engineer's pistol]		[the cilivians are being attacked with plasma fire from a Sectiod Engineer's pistol]

	Billy-Ray: Sarge! there killin our friends. Don't let them, Sarge!		'''Billy-Ray:''' Sarge! there killin our friends. Don't let them, Sarge!

	Sarge: Hold on to yer hats! I'll git the civvie with ma Psi-Amp and git him away from that no-good alien.		'''Sarge:''' Hold on to yer hats! I'll git the civvie with ma Psi-Amp and git him away from that no-good alien.
	[bravely, Sarge mind-controls the cilivian and leads him to the skyranger]		[bravely, Sarge mind-controls the cilivian and leads him to the skyranger]

	Bubba: Hey? What?		'''Bubba:''' Hey? What?
	[with Sarge now tired from the mind-force, the cilivian is released from the mind-control]		[with Sarge now tired from the mind-force, the cilivian is released from the mind-control]

	Billy-Ray: God-damn, what is that cilivian doing? He's not one of ours? Sarge!, whata we do?		'''Billy-Ray:''' God-damn, what is that cilivian doing? He's not one of ours? Sarge!, whata we do?

	Sarge: KILL IT!....Kill it!, it ain't one of ours!		'''Sarge:''' KILL IT!....Kill it!, it ain't one of ours!
	[Sarge opens with his Pistol, trying to shoot the un-friendly cilivian. Bubba and Billy-Ray follow as well]		[Sarge opens with his Pistol, trying to shoot the un-friendly cilivian. Bubba and Billy-Ray follow as well]

	Bubba: DIE! god-damn varmit!		'''Bubba:''' DIE! god-damn varmit!
	[with the cilivian now dead...]		[with the cilivian now dead...]

	Billy-Ray: That city-folk, he turned weird or somethin'. Did ya see the look in his eyes? There were all monster-like.		'''Billy-Ray:''' That city-folk, he turned weird or somethin'. Did ya see the look in his eyes? There were all monster-like.

	~~Bubba: Hey Sarge? what did ya do?~~

	~~Sarge: Don't know, but them city-folk, there not right in the head after we play with it~~.

	Bubba: ~~Yeah, you~~'~~d better not~~ do ~~that again, Sarge.~~		'''Bubba:''' Hey Sarge? what did ya do?

	~~Billy~~-~~Ray: Hold Up! I see another alien...~~.		'''Sarge:''' Don't know, but them city-folk, there not right in the head after we play with it.

			'''Bubba:''' Yeah, you'd better not do that again, Sarge.

			'''Billy-Ray:''' Hold Up! I see another alien....



	That might explain a few things....		That might explain a few things....

220.245.178.131: Heheheh read this!

2005-10-30T15:36:41Z

Heheheh read this!

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	if you m.c a civilian next turn he will be owned by the aliens and your are forced to kill him.		if you m.c a civilian next turn he will be owned by the aliens and your are forced to kill him.

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			'''A Good Intention:'''

			[the secene] Terror mission out near Arkansas, USA. Sectoid Race interrupting the local Hicksville sunday markets where car-parts and moonshine are generally traded. Xcom Command received the terror alert and are just landing on the road one city block away. Skyranger craft equipped with seven local lads who joined up to 'protect America and kick some Alien butt'. The story now unfolds:

			Sarge: Awriight gurls, git orf my ship and kick some ass
			[three Soldiers jump off the ramp and take position near the landing gear]

			Bubba: Hey Sarge, I see a god damn varmit!

			Billy-Ray: Careful there Bubba, those yer-aliens, there smart.

			Sarge: Not as smart as me, i'll show em'
			[whips out the Psi-amp, whilst Bubba readies a shot from his Laser Rifle]

			Bubba: Damn, I missed ... HOLD UP!. I see some city-folk milling around. GIT AWAY yer fools.
			[the cilivians are being attacked with plasma fire from a Sectiod Engineer's pistol]

			Billy-Ray: Sarge! there killin our friends. Don't let them, Sarge!

			Sarge: Hold on to yer hats! I'll git the civvie with ma Psi-Amp and git him away from that no-good alien.
			[bravely, Sarge mind-controls the cilivian and leads him to the skyranger]

			Bubba: Hey? What?
			[with Sarge now tired from the mind-force, the cilivian is released from the mind-control]

			Billy-Ray: God-damn, what is that cilivian doing? He's not one of ours? Sarge!, whata we do?

			Sarge: KILL IT!....Kill it!, it ain't one of ours!
			[Sarge opens with his Pistol, trying to shoot the un-friendly cilivian. Bubba and Billy-Ray follow as well]

			Bubba: DIE! god-damn varmit!
			[with the cilivian now dead...]

			Billy-Ray: That city-folk, he turned weird or somethin'. Did ya see the look in his eyes? There were all monster-like.

			Bubba: Hey Sarge? what did ya do?

			Sarge: Don't know, but them city-folk, there not right in the head after we play with it.

			Bubba: Yeah, you'd better not do that again, Sarge.

			Billy-Ray: Hold Up! I see another alien....





			That might explain a few things....

80.196.239.101 at 15:00, 29 October 2005

2005-10-29T15:00:27Z

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	now for the real article:		now for the real article:

	if you m.c a civilian next turn he will ~~become an alien~~ and your are forced to kill him.		if you m.c a civilian next turn he will be owned by the aliens and your are forced to kill him.

80.196.239.101 at 15:00, 29 October 2005

2005-10-29T15:00:11Z

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	Hmm, anyone know what a "persuadatron" is? Now apply this to a turn-based game.		Hmm, anyone know what a "persuadatron" is? Now apply this to a turn-based game.

			now for the real article:

			if you m.c a civilian next turn he will become an alien and your are forced to kill him.

EsTeR at 12:42, 27 October 2005

2005-10-27T12:42:44Z

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Hmm, anyone know what a "persuadatron" is? Now apply this to a turn-based game.