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Tauon: /* re: Reactions training */

2011-01-17T18:39:11Z

re: Reactions training

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	I've only ever played UFO, not TFTD, but I think your troops won't use reaction fire against MCed allies.		I've only ever played UFO, not TFTD, but I think your troops won't use reaction fire against MCed allies.
			:We shall know soon - only 2 more game days and should have everything I need for testing(just lacking a MC wimp). --[[User:Tauon\|Tauon]] 13:39, 17 January 2011 (EST)

	I've had some luck doing reactions training in UFO without the inventory trick by MCing disarmed aliens and putting them inside the UFO a little distance from the outer door. Aliens can't seem to resist going through doors, though they're usually fast enough to jump back in without getting shot. But I can usually get some reaction fire if I put two or three shooters in the right places just outside the door.--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 01:22, 17 January 2011 (EST)		I've had some luck doing reactions training in UFO without the inventory trick by MCing disarmed aliens and putting them inside the UFO a little distance from the outer door. Aliens can't seem to resist going through doors, though they're usually fast enough to jump back in without getting shot. But I can usually get some reaction fire if I put two or three shooters in the right places just outside the door.--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 01:22, 17 January 2011 (EST)

NKF: /* re: Reactions training */

2011-01-17T07:11:14Z

re: Reactions training

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	: This setup even works quite well for covering alien subs during normal assaults while you finish up the stragglers outside. If there's space, make sure everyone's at least 18 - 20 tiles away from the door. The spacing especially helps keep you out of view from any aliens that have bunched up behind the one that stepped out the door. Just don't forget, since this is TFTD and its near perpetual darkness, to keep the door area lit.		: This setup even works quite well for covering alien subs during normal assaults while you finish up the stragglers outside. If there's space, make sure everyone's at least 18 - 20 tiles away from the door. The spacing especially helps keep you out of view from any aliens that have bunched up behind the one that stepped out the door. Just don't forget, since this is TFTD and its near perpetual darkness, to keep the door area lit.

	: If you must use an armed alien in any of your controlled reaction training regimes, here's one tip that might help you meddle with fate a little. Control an alien then start damaging it enough that it gets critical wounds. It has to be done while under MC or else they won't get the wounds. Juggle the healing and bleeding over a couple of turns until you have exactly 1 hitpoint and 1 critical wound remaining, then heal the last wound. It'll get a bit of health back, but by now hopefully its accuracy will be so badly damaged that the safest place to be is right in front of it! Well, no that's not quite true, ~~lowering~~ the accuracy ~~helps a bit~~. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 02:08, 17 January 2011 (EST)		: If you must use an armed alien in any of your controlled reaction training regimes, here's one tip that might help you meddle with fate a little. Control an alien then start damaging it enough that it gets critical wounds. It has to be done while under MC or else they won't get the wounds. Juggle the healing and bleeding over a couple of turns until you have exactly 1 hitpoint and 1 critical wound remaining, then heal the last wound. It'll get a bit of health back, but by now hopefully its accuracy will be so badly damaged that the safest place to be is right in front of it! Well, no that's not quite true - it just makes the shots wilder, so keep your troops well spaced apart. Lowering the accuracy will still help. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 02:08, 17 January 2011 (EST)

NKF: /* re: Reactions training */

2011-01-17T07:08:55Z

re: Reactions training

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	I've had some luck doing reactions training in UFO without the inventory trick by MCing disarmed aliens and putting them inside the UFO a little distance from the outer door. Aliens can't seem to resist going through doors, though they're usually fast enough to jump back in without getting shot. But I can usually get some reaction fire if I put two or three shooters in the right places just outside the door.--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 01:22, 17 January 2011 (EST)		I've had some luck doing reactions training in UFO without the inventory trick by MCing disarmed aliens and putting them inside the UFO a little distance from the outer door. Aliens can't seem to resist going through doors, though they're usually fast enough to jump back in without getting shot. But I can usually get some reaction fire if I put two or three shooters in the right places just outside the door.--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 01:22, 17 January 2011 (EST)

			: One addition to that trick is put your units off to the side so that the alien can't spot them immediately as it steps out the door. This will negate mutual surprise. You can also space the alien so that it has to use up most of its TUs to get through the door.

			: This setup even works quite well for covering alien subs during normal assaults while you finish up the stragglers outside. If there's space, make sure everyone's at least 18 - 20 tiles away from the door. The spacing especially helps keep you out of view from any aliens that have bunched up behind the one that stepped out the door. Just don't forget, since this is TFTD and its near perpetual darkness, to keep the door area lit.

			: If you must use an armed alien in any of your controlled reaction training regimes, here's one tip that might help you meddle with fate a little. Control an alien then start damaging it enough that it gets critical wounds. It has to be done while under MC or else they won't get the wounds. Juggle the healing and bleeding over a couple of turns until you have exactly 1 hitpoint and 1 critical wound remaining, then heal the last wound. It'll get a bit of health back, but by now hopefully its accuracy will be so badly damaged that the safest place to be is right in front of it! Well, no that's not quite true, lowering the accuracy helps a bit. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 02:08, 17 January 2011 (EST)

Ethereal Cereal: /* re: Reactions training */ new section

2011-01-17T06:22:25Z

re: Reactions training: new section

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	As for the bug where transporting an unconscious alien and then having it wake up in its original location - now that's a bug I have not been able to replicate in UFO after many tries. They might have changed the unit handling a little by now, and the actual unit stats along with its world locations aren't being updating to the coordinates of the body item when it wakes up. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 01:07, 17 January 2011 (EST)		As for the bug where transporting an unconscious alien and then having it wake up in its original location - now that's a bug I have not been able to replicate in UFO after many tries. They might have changed the unit handling a little by now, and the actual unit stats along with its world locations aren't being updating to the coordinates of the body item when it wakes up. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 01:07, 17 January 2011 (EST)

			== re: Reactions training ==

			I've only ever played UFO, not TFTD, but I think your troops won't use reaction fire against MCed allies.

			I've had some luck doing reactions training in UFO without the inventory trick by MCing disarmed aliens and putting them inside the UFO a little distance from the outer door. Aliens can't seem to resist going through doors, though they're usually fast enough to jump back in without getting shot. But I can usually get some reaction fire if I put two or three shooters in the right places just outside the door.--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 01:22, 17 January 2011 (EST)

NKF: /* Re: Strange events */ new section

2011-01-17T06:07:31Z

Re: Strange events: new section

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	That does not include the loot. And i brought stuff from the first stage.		That does not include the loot. And i brought stuff from the first stage.
	All but the sq ld had sonic cannons. The ld were unarmed to ensure MC attacks I guess. There were plenty of pulsers and more MC reader and extra cannon mags.		All but the sq ld had sonic cannons. The ld were unarmed to ensure MC attacks I guess. There were plenty of pulsers and more MC reader and extra cannon mags.

			== Re: Strange events ==

			The corpse appearing in the equipment pile is a throwback to a similar bug in UFO. Not sure what's happening, but I think there might've been a glitch with the equipment assignment that resulted in one of the corpses getting assigned to the equipment pile. Or the corpses coordinates consist of rubbish memory data that was in the same memory space that it is currently occupying.

			The scaling trick - ws your aquanaut ground-bound and were there any other stairs the aquanaut recently climbed prior to this? If it's what I think it is, then it's probably the same collision detection bug where the game is completely oblivious of the unit's elevation change if it climbs up stairs or drops from a ledge while travelling. In some cases, the unit may end up partially in a tile and can scale a nearby wall that normally can't be climbed.

			As for the bug where transporting an unconscious alien and then having it wake up in its original location - now that's a bug I have not been able to replicate in UFO after many tries. They might have changed the unit handling a little by now, and the actual unit stats along with its world locations aren't being updating to the coordinates of the body item when it wakes up. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 01:07, 17 January 2011 (EST)

Tauon: /* First artefact site */

2010-11-10T15:18:56Z

First artefact site

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	That does not include the loot. And i brought stuff from the first stage.		That does not include the loot. And i brought stuff from the first stage.
			All but the sq ld had sonic cannons. The ld were unarmed to ensure MC attacks I guess. There were plenty of pulsers and more MC reader and extra cannon mags.

Tauon at 15:10, 10 November 2010

2010-11-10T15:10:34Z

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 dye grenade
 chemical flares
-HJC with 2 phoshor mags
+HJC with 2 phosphor mags
 Medikits
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 all except 2 troops in starting area(lvl 3). One on lvl0,one on lvl2. Unfortunately th one on lvl 0 is a MC trooper. Has already spotted one tasoth in a room next to him.
 Move the MC trooper on lvl0 back to lvl 3 since he was next to the elevators. Move all 6 field troops to lvl1. MC tasoth, drop weapon,move to entrance of SW module which is visible from the elevator lvl0 room. Part of target structure spotted from elevator - target room located in NE.

Tauon at 10:50, 10 November 2010

2010-11-10T10:50:48Z

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	all except 2 troops in starting area(lvl 3). One on lvl0,one on lvl2. Unfortunately th one on lvl 0 is a MC trooper. Has already spotted one tasoth in a room next to him. ~~To be continued~~...		all except 2 troops in starting area(lvl 3). One on lvl0,one on lvl2. Unfortunately th one on lvl 0 is a MC trooper. Has already spotted one tasoth in a room next to him.
			Move the MC trooper on lvl0 back to lvl 3 since he was next to the elevators. Move all 6 field troops to lvl1. MC tasoth, drop weapon,move to entrance of SW module which is visible from the elevator lvl0 room. Part of target structure spotted from elevator - target room located in NE.

Tauon at 22:46, 9 November 2010

2010-11-09T22:46:11Z

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			9th & 10th slay the 3 remaining aliens. There were no terrorists above ground. Only 2 aq soldiers with TSL,4 tasoth sq ld & 7 soldiers all armed with sonic cannons and pulsers. I retrived all alien weapons & spares except 2 sonic cannons for extra cash. Had room for those as well but that would have cost me another 5-6 turns to retrieve. Had to leave the 13 corpses. Well 12 - failed to revive the stunned sq ld with 10 shots. Grabbed it to test whether it gets killed in stage transition.
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			On to the second stage.
			Equipment screen - drop some of the extra stuff: 4 reader, ''dead'' tasoth, 19 sonic cannon mags(looks like I won't run out of ammo), 6 loaded sonic cannons, 2 TSL. Make sure that each soldier has a pulser and a HtH weapon, gun in hand. Start.
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			all except 2 troops in starting area(lvl 3). One on lvl0,one on lvl2. Unfortunately th one on lvl 0 is a MC trooper. Has already spotted one tasoth in a room next to him. To be continued...

Tauon at 22:04, 9 November 2010

2010-11-09T22:04:49Z

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 == First artefact site ==
 In a recent game the first artefact site was detected September 1st. I try to write a short account in order to extract info for improving the artefact wiki page later.
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 reaffirm control over my 6 pets, spot aquatoid soldier, MC it, spot 5 more tasoth, MC them. Throw away 5 canons & 1 TSL. All 4 corners of the map revealed.Basic features of the map known. 1 large pryramid in the NE corner(lucky, could be 2, this is where most remaining aliens should be). 1 medium with open ground floor in the SE corner(Hallucinoid are often stuck in those, but it just had a tasoth). Triton parked W of it. Further west are the Exit pyramid and futher again the 3 small solid pyramids block. Three medium pyramids north of the exit pyramid those have only a top exit usable by small floating units - those rarely contain aliens. Two more of those in the NW corner. In the north is a slightly larger pillar pyramid those can be entered and usually contain hostile forces. No terrorist units so far - strange but I recall another 1st site without top level terrorists. Maybe the artefact incidents get harder as the game progresses? The map does not seem too large as well. Use 1 tasoth pet to scout 2nd floor of great pyramid a bit.