Understanding Grenades - Revision history

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Article TODOs: https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Weapons#High_explosive

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	* Make a separate companion article called Understanding Proximity Mines		* Make a separate companion article called Understanding Proximity Mines
	* Cover a few other items mentioned in the Talk pages.		* Cover a few other items mentioned in the Talk pages.
			* As per https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Weapons#High_explosive an explosive will hit the Bottom Armour at the point of impact. This may be useful if you find yourself up against [[Silacoids]] in the early game.
	* etc.		* etc.

	[[Category:Enemy Unknown/UFO Defense]]		[[Category:Enemy Unknown/UFO Defense]]
	[[Category:TFTD]]		[[Category:TFTD]]

NKF: Started some work fleshing out and simplifying parts of this article

2014-08-14T09:21:45Z

Started some work fleshing out and simplifying parts of this article

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Hobbes: /* Article TODOs */

2013-07-23T14:16:06Z

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	[[Category:Enemy Unknown/UFO Defense]]		[[Category:Enemy Unknown/UFO Defense]]
			[[Category:TFTD]]

Hobbes: categorizing

2013-07-23T03:16:23Z

categorizing

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	* Cover a few other items mentioned in the Talk pages.		* Cover a few other items mentioned in the Talk pages.
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			[[Category:Enemy Unknown/UFO Defense]]

Hajo: /* How The Timer is Implemented */

2009-07-25T04:28:39Z

How The Timer is Implemented

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	Ever wondered why the delay settings for the timer begin at 0?		Ever wondered why the delay settings for the timer begin at 0?

	Rather than being assigned a number of turn and then counting down after each movement phase, a grenade is instead ~~assign~~ a scheduled detonation time. This is a number that equals the current movement phase count plus the delay setting of your choosing.		Rather than being assigned a number of turn and then counting down after each movement phase, a grenade is instead assigned a scheduled detonation time. This is a number that equals the current movement phase count plus the delay setting of your choosing.

	In short a grenade's 'timer' is really a scheduled detonation time more than a true countdown timer.		In short a grenade's 'timer' is really a scheduled detonation time more than a true countdown timer.
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	When you end your turn, the turn counter increments to 121. This is equal to the grenade scheduled time. That's fine for now. When the alien's end their turn, the movement phase counter jumps up to 122. This is greater than 121, and thus the grenade's first detonation condition is met. If the grenade was on the ground, it will be able to explode.		When you end your turn, the turn counter increments to 121. This is equal to the grenade scheduled time. That's fine for now. When the alien's end their turn, the movement phase counter jumps up to 122. This is greater than 121, and thus the grenade's first detonation condition is met. If the grenade was on the ground, it will be able to explode.

	If the grenade was held in the hand or inventory past this point, the other condition will not be cleared, so the grenade will not explode until it is dropped and the turn has ended.		If the grenade was held in the hand or inventory past this point, the other condition will not be cleared, so the grenade will not explode until it is dropped and the turn has ended.

	=Standard Grenade Experience Attribution=		=Standard Grenade Experience Attribution=

Hajo: /* Detonation conditions */

2009-07-25T04:25:57Z

Detonation conditions

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	If either of these two conditions are not met, the grenade will not explode.		If either of these two conditions are not met, the grenade will not explode.

	Except in very buggy circumstances, a grenade will never explode during a movement phase. Only between them before either side gets control of their units.		Except in very buggy circumstances, a grenade will never explode during a movement phase. Only between them, before either side gets control of their units.

	Because of the strict detonation conditions, you can ~~make use it by~~ safely ~~hanging onto~~ a grenade even though it's well past its timer setting.		Because of the strict detonation conditions, you can safely hold and carry a grenade even though it's well past its timer setting.

	This allows you to arm grenades several turns in advance to avoid the 50% [[Time Units\|Time Unit]] arming cost when the grenade is needed the most. As long as the grenades are in your inventory, they will be safe to carry. (Unless the soldier carrying them is killed or rendered unconscious - then the grenades end up on the ground and may explode if the counter has also run out).		This allows you to arm grenades several turns in advance to avoid the 50% [[Time Units\|Time Unit]] arming cost when the grenade is needed the most. As long as the grenades are in your inventory, they will be safe to carry. (Unless the soldier carrying them is killed or rendered unconscious - then the grenades end up on the ground and may explode if the counter has also run out).

Zombie: /* Grenades */ Relinking.

2009-07-06T00:32:51Z

Grenades: Relinking.

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	X-COM UFO and TFTD vary slightly in this department due to the different object armor levels. In UFO, grenades will be destroyed by other explosions. In TFTD, grenade armor have been enhanced considerably that grenade types are indestructible to explosions from their own types. Some grenades like the [[Sonic Pulser]] have such high armor levels that they are indestructible.		X-COM UFO and TFTD vary slightly in this department due to the different object armor levels. In UFO, grenades will be destroyed by other explosions. In TFTD, grenade armor have been enhanced considerably that grenade types are indestructible to explosions from their own types. Some grenades like the [[Sonic Pulser]] have such high armor levels that they are indestructible.

	For more information on how explosives can destroy objects in general, refer to [[Explosions#Object_Destruction\|Object Destruction]]. Refer also to [[Item Destruction Table(TFTD)\| TFTD's item destruction table]] to get the damage thresholds for TFTD's grenades and mines.		For more information on how explosives can destroy objects in general, refer to [[Explosions#Object_Destruction\|Object Destruction]]. Refer also to [[Item Destruction Table (TFTD)\| TFTD's item destruction table]] to get the damage thresholds for TFTD's grenades and mines.

	== Proximity Mines ==		== Proximity Mines ==

Jasonred: /* Proximity Mines */

2009-03-18T07:59:46Z

Proximity Mines

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	Due to the odd behaviour of the 20 Armed Proximity Mine flags that govern whether a proximity mine is live or otherwise, a mine that gets destroyed will not clear their armed flag. This has the possibility of passing the armed status onto another object during the battle.		Due to the odd behaviour of the 20 Armed Proximity Mine flags that govern whether a proximity mine is live or otherwise, a mine that gets destroyed will not clear their armed flag. This has the possibility of passing the armed status onto another object during the battle.

	If this flag is not cleared, be extra wary as any item in the battlescape that is on the ground could explode on your approach, with the explosive force of the item's strength (where applicable).		If this flag is not cleared, be extra wary as any item in the battlescape that is on the ground could explode on your approach, with the explosive force of the item's strength (where applicable). The most hilarious consequence of this I have ever seen is a dead X-com agent simulating a popper and blowing up next to an aquatoid.

	In TFTD, the mine armor levels are increased a little, so most light explosions should not destroy the mine too easily.		In TFTD, the mine armor levels are increased a little, so most light explosions should not destroy the mine too easily.

Zombie: /* Detonation conditions */ Relinking.

2009-01-02T03:40:31Z

Detonation conditions: Relinking.

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	Because of the strict detonation conditions, you can make use it by safely hanging onto a grenade even though it's well past its timer setting.		Because of the strict detonation conditions, you can make use it by safely hanging onto a grenade even though it's well past its timer setting.

	This allows you to arm grenades several turns in advance to avoid the 50% [[TU]] arming cost when the grenade is needed the most. As long as the grenades are in your inventory, they will be safe to carry. (Unless the soldier carrying them is killed or rendered unconscious - then the grenades end up on the ground and may explode if the counter has also run out).		This allows you to arm grenades several turns in advance to avoid the 50% [[Time Units\|Time Unit]] arming cost when the grenade is needed the most. As long as the grenades are in your inventory, they will be safe to carry. (Unless the soldier carrying them is killed or rendered unconscious - then the grenades end up on the ground and may explode if the counter has also run out).

	== How The Timer is Implemented ==		== How The Timer is Implemented ==

NKF: /* Item Destruction */ Added link to object destruction

2008-08-01T23:39:04Z

Item Destruction: Added link to object destruction

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	X-COM UFO and TFTD vary slightly in this department due to the different object armor levels. In UFO, grenades will be destroyed by other explosions. In TFTD, grenade armor have been enhanced considerably that grenade types are indestructible to explosions from their own types. Some grenades like the [[Sonic Pulser]] have such high armor levels that they are indestructible.		X-COM UFO and TFTD vary slightly in this department due to the different object armor levels. In UFO, grenades will be destroyed by other explosions. In TFTD, grenade armor have been enhanced considerably that grenade types are indestructible to explosions from their own types. Some grenades like the [[Sonic Pulser]] have such high armor levels that they are indestructible.

			For more information on how explosives can destroy objects in general, refer to [[Explosions#Object_Destruction\|Object Destruction]]. Refer also to [[Item Destruction Table(TFTD)\| TFTD's item destruction table]] to get the damage thresholds for TFTD's grenades and mines.

	== Proximity Mines ==		== Proximity Mines ==
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	If this flag is not cleared, be extra wary as any item in the battlescape that is on the ground could explode on your approach, with the explosive force of the item's strength (where applicable).		If this flag is not cleared, be extra wary as any item in the battlescape that is on the ground could explode on your approach, with the explosive force of the item's strength (where applicable).

	In TFTD, the mine armor levels are increased a little, so most light explosions should not destroy the mine too easily.		In TFTD, the mine armor levels are increased a little, so most light explosions should not destroy the mine too easily.


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