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restored: EsTeR didn't add anything interesting and removed a huge amount of information

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	~~'''An agent~~ in ~~battle will increase their attributes beyond their baseline if they actively partake in combat~~: ~~react, shoot, kill~~ and also ~~when de-moralized, panicked~~ or ~~wounded~~.~~'''~~		==Training Basics==
			* There are two types of soldier training available in Apocalypse: Combat and [[Psionics (Apocalypse)\|Psionics]] Training. Combat training deals with exercising physical stats while psionic deals with exercising psionic stats.
			* Training is restricted to [[Humans (Apocalypse)\|humans]] and [[Hybrids (Apocalypse)\|hybrids]].
			* Bases need to be equipped with a [[Training Area (Apocalypse)\|Training Area]] or [[Psi-Gym (Apocalypse)\|Psi-Gym]] in order for soldiers assigned to them to conduct Combat or Psionics training.
			* Bravery cannot be trained except [[Combat Experience (Apocalypse)\|in battle]] (which can also improve the physical attributes except Strength).
			* Only uninjured soldiers can train.
			* Each area or gym can train up to 10 soldiers. It is possible to assign more than 10 soldiers but the effectiveness of training will be reduced.

	=Training=		== Training Formulae ==
	Attributes generally increase from combat but some cannot increase from such actions. A [[Training_Area_(Apocalypse)\|Training Area]] facility built within a base will allow agents to continually increase their physical skills and to improve those in which combat experience has no effect.<br>
	~~<br>~~
	* Training is possible for only [[Agents_(Apocalypse)\|Humans or Hybrids]]. Android cannot increase their [[Agents_Stats_(Apocalypse)\|baseline attributes]].
	* Wounded agents cannot continue training until healed completely inside a [[Medical_Bay_(Apocalypse)\|Medical Bay]].
	~~<br>~~
	* '''Strength''' cannot be improved via combat action. It can only increase by time spent in a training facility.
	~~<br>~~
	* '''Bravery''' cannot be improved via training. It may improve by combat missions which either:
	~~:: was not a successful outcome and caused the agent to panic.~~
	~~:: an agent was subjected to "Panic" psionic manipulation.~~

			Every midnight a soldier in combat training has a chance of improving combat stats (Health, Accuracy, Reactions, TU, Stamina, and Strength) and a soldier in psionic training has a chance of improving psionic stats (Psi-energy, Psi-attack and Psi-defense).

	~~==Improvement==~~		*The chance of improvement is (maximum stat value - current stat value)%.
	Health, Accuracy, Reactions, ~~Speed (Time Units)~~, Stamina, and ~~Strength each have chance of increasing each day~~ (~~at Midnight~~) by, ~~at best~~, ~~+1 to each attribute~~.		Maximum for Health, Reactions, TU, Stamina and Strength is 100. Maximum for Accuracy is 96. Maximum for psionic stats is (3 starting stat value).
			*If improvement is triggered, Health, Accuracy, Reactions, TU, Strength and Psi-energy improve by 1 point. Stamina improves by half a point. Psi-attack and Psi-defense improve by floor(Psi-energy/20) points (which will be 0 if Psi-energy is less than 20).
			*In addition, there is a hard cap of 100 on Psi-energy and Psi-attack, and 99 on Psi-defense. Improvement above these values will be ignored.

			== Training Strategies ==
			* While it might naïvely seem like a good idea to psi-train humans to shore up their weak Psi-defense, in practice this is not very rewarding due to the training formulae:
			**Humans start with 5-20 Psi-energy, and until Psi-energy reaches 20 Psi-defense cannot be improved (even if an improvement is rolled, it will improve by 0 points).
			*The initial chance for improvement of a psionic stat is (2 starting stat value)%. This means that humans start with somewhere between a 10% and 40% chance of improving Psi-energy; hybrids start with somewhere between 60% and 90%.
			:This means a human with 15 Psi-energy will need roughly two and a half weeks of psionic training, and a human with 10 Psi-energy roughly ten weeks, before they even have a ''chance'' of improving Psi-defense (and a human with 5 or 6 Psi-energy will never get there, as their maximum Psi-energy is less than 20).
			* Training is a long term investment. It will require some money to invest on facilities and soldiers but it will allow for large squads of trained personnel.
			* Every base should have a Training Area. That way soldiers assigned to them will improve their stats even if they are assigned merely on a garrison role. With time those agents will make great improvements on their stats, allowing for a large trained pool of rookie replacements.
			* A variation is to set a base as a Training base and built 2-3 training facilities with enough crew to use all training slots. It is important to keep those soldiers away from combat since injured soldiers can't benefit from training and it slows their improvement. Given enough time, trainees can even max their stats before going on their first mission.
			* Psionic training usually requires only 1 or 2 Psi-Gyms, depending on how many hybrids you are employing.
			* Hybrids should be assigned to either of the two gyms as early in their career as possible, as they will be spending the most time training of all the races. Either assign them all to the same gym, or split them and alternate at a later date.

	==See Also==		==See Also==
	* [[~~Psi-Gym_~~(Apocalypse)\|~~Improving Psionics~~]]		* [[Apocalypse]]
			* [[Bases (Apocalypse)\|Bases]]
	* [[Agents (Apocalypse)\|Agents]]		* [[Agents (Apocalypse)\|Agents]]
	* [[Agents Stats (Apocalypse)\|Agent ~~Attributes~~]]		* [[Agents Stats (Apocalypse)\|Agent Stats]]
			* [[Psionics (Apocalypse)\|Psionics]]
	~~==See Also: Formulae==~~
	* [[~~Combat_Experience_~~(Apocalypse)\|~~Combat Experience~~]]


	[[Category: Apocalypse]]		[[Category: Apocalypse]]

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	==See Also==		==See Also==
	* ~~'''~~[[Psi-Gym_(Apocalypse)\|Improving Psionics]]~~'''~~		* [[Psi-Gym_(Apocalypse)\|Improving Psionics]]
	* [[Agents (Apocalypse)\|Agents]]		* [[Agents (Apocalypse)\|Agents]]
	* [[Agents Stats (Apocalypse)\|Agent Attributes]]		* [[Agents Stats (Apocalypse)\|Agent Attributes]]

			==See Also: Formulae==
			* [[Combat_Experience_(Apocalypse)\|Combat Experience]]


	[[Category: Apocalypse]]		[[Category: Apocalypse]]

EsTeR: cleaned irrelevant fluff - no one psi-trains humans

2023-11-04T09:52:56Z

cleaned irrelevant fluff - no one psi-trains humans

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	[[Category: Apocalypse]]		[[Category: Apocalypse]]

	~~<!--~~
	~~Every midnight a soldier in combat training has a chance of improving combat stats ( and a soldier in psionic training has a chance of improving psionic stats (Psi-energy, Psi-attack and Psi-defense).~~

	*The chance of improvement is (maximum stat value - current stat value)%.
	Maximum for Health, Reactions, TU, Stamina and Strength is 100. Maximum for Accuracy is 96. Maximum for psionic stats is (3 starting stat value).
	*If improvement is triggered, Health, Accuracy, Reactions, TU, Strength and Psi-energy improve by 1 point. Stamina improves by half a point. Psi-attack and Psi-defense improve by floor(Psi-energy/20) points (which will be 0 if Psi-energy is less than 20).
	*In addition, there is a hard cap of 100 on Psi-energy and Psi-attack, and 99 on Psi-defense. Improvement above these values will be ignored.

	~~== Training Strategies ==~~
	* While it might naïvely seem like a good idea to psi-train humans to shore up their weak Psi-defense, in practice this is not very rewarding due to the training formulae:
	**Humans start with 5-20 Psi-energy, and until Psi-energy reaches 20 Psi-defense cannot be improved (even if an improvement is rolled, it will improve by 0 points).
	*The initial chance for improvement of a psionic stat is (2 starting stat value)%. This means that humans start with somewhere between a 10% and 40% chance of improving Psi-energy; hybrids start with somewhere between 60% and 90%.
	:This means a human with 15 Psi-energy will need roughly two and a half weeks of psionic training, and a human with 10 Psi-energy roughly ten weeks, before they even have a ''chance'' of improving Psi-defense (and a human with 5 or 6 Psi-energy will never get there, as their maximum Psi-energy is less than 20).
	* Training is a long term investment. It will require some money to invest on facilities and soldiers but it will allow for large squads of trained personnel.
	* Every base should have a Training Area. That way soldiers assigned to them will improve their stats even if they are assigned merely on a garrison role. With time those agents will make great improvements on their stats, allowing for a large trained pool of rookie replacements.
	* A variation is to set a base as a Training base and built 2-3 training facilities with enough crew to use all training slots. It is important to keep those soldiers away from combat since injured soldiers can't benefit from training and it slows their improvement. Given enough time, trainees can even max their stats before going on their first mission.
	* Psionic training usually requires only 1 or 2 Psi-Gyms, depending on how many hybrids you are employing.
	* Hybrids should be assigned to either of the two gyms as early in their career as possible, as they will be spending the most time training of all the races. Either assign them all to the same gym, or split them and alternate at a later date.
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	* Training is possible for only [[Agents_(Apocalypse)\|Humans or Hybrids]]. Android cannot increase their [[Agents_Stats_(Apocalypse)\|baseline attributes]].		* Training is possible for only [[Agents_(Apocalypse)\|Humans or Hybrids]]. Android cannot increase their [[Agents_Stats_(Apocalypse)\|baseline attributes]].
	* Wounded agents cannot continue training until healed completely inside a [[Medical_Bay_(Apocalypse)\|Medical Bay]].		* Wounded agents cannot continue training until healed completely inside a [[Medical_Bay_(Apocalypse)\|Medical Bay]].
			<br>
	* '''Strength''' cannot be improved via combat action. It can only increase by time spent in a training facility.		* '''Strength''' cannot be improved via combat action. It can only increase by time spent in a training facility.
	* '''Bravery'' cannot be improved via training. It may improve by combat missions which either:		<br>
			* '''Bravery''' cannot be improved via training. It may improve by combat missions which either:
	:: was not a successful outcome and caused the agent to panic.		:: was not a successful outcome and caused the agent to panic.
	:: an agent was subjected to "Panic" psionic manipulation.		:: an agent was subjected to "Panic" psionic manipulation.


	==Improvement==		==Improvement==

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-==Training Basics==
+'''An agent in battle will increase their attributes beyond their baseline if they actively partake in combat: react, shoot, kill and also when de-moralized, panicked or wounded.'''
-== Training Formulas ==
+=Training=
-Every midnight a soldier in combat training has a chance of improving combat stats (Health, Accuracy, Reactions, TU, Stamina, and Strength) and a soldier in psionic training has a chance of improving psionic stats (Psi-energy, Psi-attack and Psi-defense).
+==Improvement==
 *The chance of improvement is (maximum stat value - current stat value)%.
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 * Psionic training usually requires only 1 or 2 Psi-Gyms, depending on how many hybrids you are employing.
 * Hybrids should be assigned to either of the two gyms as early in their career as possible, as they will be spending the most time training of all the races. Either assign them all to the same gym, or split them and alternate at a later date.
+-->

Magic9mushroom: /* Training Basics */

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Training Basics

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	* Training is restricted to [[Humans (Apocalypse)\|humans]] and [[Hybrids (Apocalypse)\|hybrids]].		* Training is restricted to [[Humans (Apocalypse)\|humans]] and [[Hybrids (Apocalypse)\|hybrids]].
	* Bases need to be equipped with a [[Training Area (Apocalypse)\|Training Area]] or [[Psi-Gym (Apocalypse)\|Psi-Gym]] in order for soldiers assigned to them to conduct Combat or Psionics training.		* Bases need to be equipped with a [[Training Area (Apocalypse)\|Training Area]] or [[Psi-Gym (Apocalypse)\|Psi-Gym]] in order for soldiers assigned to them to conduct Combat or Psionics training.
	* ~~Most phsyical stats can~~ be ~~actively~~ trained ~~in combat, however Strength must be trained in the~~ [[~~Training Area~~ (Apocalypse)\|~~Training Area~~]].		* Bravery cannot be trained except [[Combat Experience (Apocalypse)\|in battle]] (which can also improve the physical attributes except Strength).
	* The Psi Gym will only exercise an agent's psi stats up to 3× its base value.
	* Only uninjured soldiers can train.		* Only uninjured soldiers can train.
	* Each area or gym can train up to 10 soldiers. It is possible to assign more than 10 soldiers but the effectiveness of training will be reduced.		* Each area or gym can train up to 10 soldiers. It is possible to assign more than 10 soldiers but the effectiveness of training will be reduced.

Magic9mushroom: /* Training Strategies */ explaining why psi-training humans doesn't work very well

2020-07-06T09:44:20Z

Training Strategies: explaining why psi-training humans doesn't work very well

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	== Training Strategies ==		== Training Strategies ==
			* While it might naïvely seem like a good idea to psi-train humans to shore up their weak Psi-defense, in practice this is not very rewarding due to the training formulae:
			**Humans start with 5-20 Psi-energy, and until Psi-energy reaches 20 Psi-defense cannot be improved (even if an improvement is rolled, it will improve by 0 points).
			*The initial chance for improvement of a psionic stat is (2 starting stat value)%. This means that humans start with somewhere between a 10% and 40% chance of improving Psi-energy; hybrids start with somewhere between 60% and 90%.
			:This means a human with 15 Psi-energy will need roughly two and a half weeks of psionic training, and a human with 10 Psi-energy roughly ten weeks, before they even have a ''chance'' of improving Psi-defense (and a human with 5 or 6 Psi-energy will never get there, as their maximum Psi-energy is less than 20).
	* Training is a long term investment. It will require some money to invest on facilities and soldiers but it will allow for large squads of trained personnel.		* Training is a long term investment. It will require some money to invest on facilities and soldiers but it will allow for large squads of trained personnel.
	* Every base should have a Training Area. That way soldiers assigned to them will improve their stats even if they are assigned merely on a garrison role. With time those agents will make great improvements on their stats, allowing for a large trained pool of rookie replacements.		* Every base should have a Training Area. That way soldiers assigned to them will improve their stats even if they are assigned merely on a garrison role. With time those agents will make great improvements on their stats, allowing for a large trained pool of rookie replacements.
	* A variation is to set a base as a Training base and built 2-3 training facilities with enough crew to use all training slots. It is important to keep those soldiers away from combat since injured soldiers can't benefit from training and it slows their improvement. Given enough time, trainees can even max their stats before going on their first mission.		* A variation is to set a base as a Training base and built 2-3 training facilities with enough crew to use all training slots. It is important to keep those soldiers away from combat since injured soldiers can't benefit from training and it slows their improvement. Given enough time, trainees can even max their stats before going on their first mission.
	* Psionic training usually requires only 1 or 2 Psi-Gyms, depending on how many hybrids you are employing.		* Psionic training usually requires only 1 or 2 Psi-Gyms, depending on how many hybrids you are employing.
	* Hybrids should be assigned to either of the two gyms as early in their career as possible, as they will be spending the most time training of all the races. Either assign them all to the same gym, or split them and alternate at a later date.		* Hybrids should be assigned to either of the two gyms as early in their career as possible, as they will be spending the most time training of all the races. Either assign them all to the same gym, or split them and alternate at a later date.

	==See Also==		==See Also==

Magic9mushroom: /* Training Formulas */ complete formulae from OpenApoc devs; it's consistent with my testing

2020-07-06T09:13:49Z

Training Formulas: complete formulae from OpenApoc devs; it's consistent with my testing

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	== Training Formulas ==		== Training Formulas ==

	~~These formulas are taken from Roger Wong's Unofficial Strategy Guide for Apocalypse.~~		Every midnight a soldier in combat training has a chance of improving combat stats (Health, Accuracy, Reactions, TU, Stamina, and Strength) and a soldier in psionic training has a chance of improving psionic stats (Psi-energy, Psi-attack and Psi-defense).
	~~=== Combat Training ===~~
	* Every midnight ~~each agent~~ in combat training has a chance of ~~having some~~ of ~~their physical~~ stats ~~improved by 1 point.~~
	* The chance is (~~100~~ - ~~current stat value~~)~~%. Thus, the more improved the stats are the less the odds of them being increased by training~~.

	~~=== Psionics Training ===~~		*The chance of improvement is (maximum stat value - current stat value)%.
	* ~~Every midnight each agent in psionics training has a~~ chance of ~~having some of their psionic stats improving: '''But''' psionics stats can only be improved up to 3 times their original values and the~~ improvement is ~~based on the agent's Psi~~-~~energy~~.		Maximum for Health, Reactions, TU, Stamina and Strength is 100. Maximum for Accuracy is 96. Maximum for psionic stats is (3 starting stat value).
	* ~~The chance of~~ psionic ~~improvement~~ is ~~not known~~.		*If improvement is triggered, Health, Accuracy, Reactions, TU, Strength and Psi-energy improve by 1 point. Stamina improves by half a point. Psi-attack and Psi-defense improve by floor(Psi-energy/20) points (which will be 0 if Psi-energy is less than 20).
	* Psi-attack and Psi-defense ~~values will increase~~ by ~~1/20th of~~ Psi-energy (~~rounded down, potentially to~~ 0). Psi-energy ~~will increase by 1 point~~.		*In addition, there is a hard cap of 100 on Psi-energy and Psi-attack, and 99 on Psi-defense. Improvement above these values will be ignored.
	* ~~Because~~ of ~~their low starting stat~~ values ~~humans~~ will ~~get almost no benefit from psionics training~~.

	== Training Strategies ==		== Training Strategies ==

Magic9mushroom: /* Psionics Training */ humans cannot improve psi-attack and psi-defense until psi-energy reaches 20

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Psionics Training: humans cannot improve psi-attack and psi-defense until psi-energy reaches 20

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	* Every midnight each agent in psionics training has a chance of having some of their psionic stats improving: '''But''' psionics stats can only be improved up to 3 times their original values and the improvement is based on the agent's Psi-energy.		* Every midnight each agent in psionics training has a chance of having some of their psionic stats improving: '''But''' psionics stats can only be improved up to 3 times their original values and the improvement is based on the agent's Psi-energy.
	* The chance of psionic improvement is not known.		* The chance of psionic improvement is not known.
	* Psi-attack and Psi-defense values will increase by 1/20th of Psi-energy. Psi-energy will increase by 1 point.		* Psi-attack and Psi-defense values will increase by 1/20th of Psi-energy (rounded down, potentially to 0). Psi-energy will increase by 1 point.
	* Because of their low starting stat values humans will get almost no benefit from psionics training.		* Because of their low starting stat values humans will get almost no benefit from psionics training.

Magic9mushroom: /* Combat Training */ percent, not odds

2020-05-30T07:36:06Z

Combat Training: percent, not odds

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	=== Combat Training ===		=== Combat Training ===
	* Every midnight each agent in combat training has a chance of having some of their physical stats improved by 1 point.		* Every midnight each agent in combat training has a chance of having some of their physical stats improved by 1 point.
	* The ~~odds are~~ (100 - current stat value). Thus, the more improved the stats are the less the odds of them being increased by training.		* The chance is (100 - current stat value)%. Thus, the more improved the stats are the less the odds of them being increased by training.

	=== Psionics Training ===		=== Psionics Training ===