Talk:Vehicles (Apocalypse) - Revision history

EsTeR: moving to traffic

2022-07-15T23:30:40Z

moving to traffic

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	'''DONE''' [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])		'''DONE''' [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])

	~~==Vehicle Limits==~~
	~~Testes: how many?<br>~~
	~~'''Conclusion'''<br>~~
	~~80 is the total limit.<br>~~
	~~71 is the absolute limit for xcom.<br>~~
	~~9: 1x space liner, 8x randoms (used for auto-taxi, air-trans, UFO spawns).~~
	* The total limit which is 80 was tested by giving all vehicles X-Com ownership (mexcomap). At 80, transfers are not possible since the game cannot create an air-trans due to all 'slots' being used.
	* The player's ''normal'' limit of 71 depends on the quantity of megapol vehicles. To get to 71 normally relies on <s>some bad OCD</s> buying a vehicle immediately after any destruction of police vehicles which is possible near the end of the week when it cannot be replaced until the new week (or you destroy them if hostile).
	* Common maximums for craft quantity start to become limited (the message: "...back-log of new vehicle registrations yadda...") above 50 xcom vehicles versus 80 total. It may be possible to buy a new vehicle when you spot a AI road car blow up, but then again... that OCD thing.
	* At 71 ownership, there are no road vehicles anywhere, 1 space liner flying about, and your 8 remainder mix. [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])

EsTeR: sign

2022-07-11T17:13:52Z

sign

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	* The player's ''normal'' limit of 71 depends on the quantity of megapol vehicles. To get to 71 normally relies on <s>some bad OCD</s> buying a vehicle immediately after any destruction of police vehicles which is possible near the end of the week when it cannot be replaced until the new week (or you destroy them if hostile).		* The player's ''normal'' limit of 71 depends on the quantity of megapol vehicles. To get to 71 normally relies on <s>some bad OCD</s> buying a vehicle immediately after any destruction of police vehicles which is possible near the end of the week when it cannot be replaced until the new week (or you destroy them if hostile).
	* Common maximums for craft quantity start to become limited (the message: "...back-log of new vehicle registrations yadda...") above 50 xcom vehicles versus 80 total. It may be possible to buy a new vehicle when you spot a AI road car blow up, but then again... that OCD thing.		* Common maximums for craft quantity start to become limited (the message: "...back-log of new vehicle registrations yadda...") above 50 xcom vehicles versus 80 total. It may be possible to buy a new vehicle when you spot a AI road car blow up, but then again... that OCD thing.
	* At 71 ownership, there are no road vehicles anywhere, 1 space liner flying about, and your 8 remainder mix.		* At 71 ownership, there are no road vehicles anywhere, 1 space liner flying about, and your 8 remainder mix. [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])

EsTeR: clari on "totals testing"

2022-07-11T17:13:22Z

clari on "totals testing"

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	'''DONE''' [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])		'''DONE''' [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])

			==Vehicle Limits==
			Testes: how many?<br>
			'''Conclusion'''<br>
			80 is the total limit.<br>
			71 is the absolute limit for xcom.<br>
			9: 1x space liner, 8x randoms (used for auto-taxi, air-trans, UFO spawns).
			* The total limit which is 80 was tested by giving all vehicles X-Com ownership (mexcomap). At 80, transfers are not possible since the game cannot create an air-trans due to all 'slots' being used.
			* The player's ''normal'' limit of 71 depends on the quantity of megapol vehicles. To get to 71 normally relies on <s>some bad OCD</s> buying a vehicle immediately after any destruction of police vehicles which is possible near the end of the week when it cannot be replaced until the new week (or you destroy them if hostile).
			* Common maximums for craft quantity start to become limited (the message: "...back-log of new vehicle registrations yadda...") above 50 xcom vehicles versus 80 total. It may be possible to buy a new vehicle when you spot a AI road car blow up, but then again... that OCD thing.
			* At 71 ownership, there are no road vehicles anywhere, 1 space liner flying about, and your 8 remainder mix.

EsTeR at 10:31, 13 June 2022

2022-06-13T10:31:53Z

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	: The exploit you're referring to is the free ammo/fuel bug. It's a property of the vehicle's equipment, not the vehicle.		: The exploit you're referring to is the free ammo/fuel bug. It's a property of the vehicle's equipment, not the vehicle.

			'''DONE''' [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])

Bobucles at 22:07, 4 April 2013

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	: I don't think there's any problem documenting single player cheats and exploits, since it's entirely the player's decision to use them or not and the only person it affects is themself. Feel free. [[User:Binkyuk\|Binkyuk]] 07:52, 4 April 2013 (EDT)		: I don't think there's any problem documenting single player cheats and exploits, since it's entirely the player's decision to use them or not and the only person it affects is themself. Feel free. [[User:Binkyuk\|Binkyuk]] 07:52, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

	: The exploit you're referring to is the free ammo bug. It's a property of the ~~weapons~~, not the vehicle.		: The exploit you're referring to is the free ammo/fuel bug. It's a property of the vehicle's equipment, not the vehicle.

Bobucles at 22:07, 4 April 2013

2013-04-04T22:07:03Z

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	: I don't think there's any problem documenting single player cheats and exploits, since it's entirely the player's decision to use them or not and the only person it affects is themself. Feel free. [[User:Binkyuk\|Binkyuk]] 07:52, 4 April 2013 (EDT)		: I don't think there's any problem documenting single player cheats and exploits, since it's entirely the player's decision to use them or not and the only person it affects is themself. Feel free. [[User:Binkyuk\|Binkyuk]] 07:52, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

			: The exploit you're referring to is the free ammo bug. It's a property of the weapons, not the vehicle.

Binkyuk at 11:52, 4 April 2013

2013-04-04T11:52:39Z

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	: Stun raids are whole different level of exploitation. This is practically business, heh. A resale value of standard-issue parts would be certainly be handy to have, but keep in mind that the price does change. Perhaps a min and max column? -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 00:32, 4 April 2013 (EDT)		: Stun raids are whole different level of exploitation. This is practically business, heh. A resale value of standard-issue parts would be certainly be handy to have, but keep in mind that the price does change. Perhaps a min and max column? -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 00:32, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

			: I don't think there's any problem documenting single player cheats and exploits, since it's entirely the player's decision to use them or not and the only person it affects is themself. Feel free. [[User:Binkyuk\|Binkyuk]] 07:52, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

NKF: Clipped the old discussion on the development navbar for this section

2013-04-04T04:33:57Z

Clipped the old discussion on the development navbar for this section

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	Don't mind me, just dabbling with a Navbar for the Vehicles section, similar to the one used on the UFO Equipment section. I hope to populate most of the main sections of this wiki with similar navbars for ease of jumping around the main subsections.

	~~'''Main vehicle article'''~~

	~~Probably won't use this one, but using it as a template to base the other sections.~~

	~~{\| width = "100%" align = "center" {{stdTable}}~~
	~~\|- {{stdTable Sub_Heading}}~~
	~~\|colspan = "2" \| {{Apoc Icon}} '''[[Apoc_Table\|X-COM Apocalypse]]''': [[Vehicles (Apocalypse)\|Vehicles]]~~
	\|-
	~~\|'''[[Roadcars and Tanks (Apocalypse)\|Ground Vehicles]]''': Filler • Filler • Filler • More Filler~~
	\|-
	~~\|'''[[Air Vehicles (Apocalypse)\|Air Vehicles]]''': Filler • Filler • Filler • More Filler~~
	\|-
	~~\|'''[[X-COM Hybrid Aircraft (Apocalypse)\|X-Com Hybrid Aircraft]]''': : Filler • Filler • Filler • More Filler~~
	\|-
	~~\|'''[[Civilian Vehicles (Apocalypse)\|Civilian Vehicles]]''': : Filler • Filler • Filler • More Filler~~
	\|-
	~~\|'''Unused Vehicle Equipment''': : Filler • Filler • Filler • More Filler~~
	\|}

	~~I'll just copy and paste stuff...~~

	~~'''Ground Vehicles'''~~

	~~{\| width = "100%" align = "center" {{stdTable}}~~
	~~\|- {{stdTable Sub_Heading}}~~
	~~\|colspan = "2" \| {{Apoc Icon}} '''[[Apoc_Table\|X-COM Apocalypse]]''': [[Vehicles (Apocalypse)\|Vehicles]] \| [[Roadcars and Tanks (Apocalypse)\|Ground Vehicles]]~~
	\|-
	\|'''Vehicles''': [[Blazer Turbo Bike (Apocalypse)\|Blazer Turbo Bike]] • [[Stormdog (Apocalypse)\|Stormdog]] • [[Wolfhound APC (Apocalypse)\|Wolfhound APC]] • [[Griffon AFV (Apocalypse)\|Griffon AFV]]
	\|-
	\|'''Weapons''': [[40mm Auto Cannon Turret (Apocalypse)\|40mm Auto Cannon Turret]] • [[Airguard Anti-Air Cannon (Apocalypse)\|Airguard Anti-Air Cannon]] • [[Ground Launched Missile Array (GLM Array) (Apocalypse)\|Ground Launched Missile Array (GLM Array)]] • [[Rumble Cannon (Apocalypse)\|Rumble Cannon]] • [[Ground Launched Missile Air Defense (GLM Air Defense (Apocalypse)\|Ground Launched Missile Air Defense (GLM Air Defense)]] • [[Plasma Turret Cannon (Apocalypse)\|Plasma Turret Cannon]] • [[Elerium (Apocalypse)\|Elerium]]
	\|-
	\|'''Engines''': [[Metro Roadhog (Apocalypse)\|Metro Roadhog]] • [[Metro Roadgrav (Apocalypse)\|Metro Roadgrav]] • [[Metro Turbograv (Apocalypse)\|Metro Turbograv]] • [[Metro Powergrav (Apocalypse)\|Metro Powergrav]] • [[Metro Multipower Plus (Apocalypse)\|Metro Multipower Plus]] • [[Fusion Powerfuel (Apocalypse)\|Powerfuel]]
	\|-
	\|'''Options''': [[Light Weapons Control (Apocalypse)\|Light Weapons Control]] • [[Medium Weapons Control (Apocalypse)\|Medium Weapons Control]] • [[Heavy Weapons Control (Apocalypse)\|Heavy Weapons Control]] • [[Advanced Control System (Apocalypse)\|Advanced Control System]] • [[Cargo Module (Apocalypse)\|Cargo Module]] • [[Passenger Module (Apocalypse)\|Passenger Module]] • [[Bio-Transport Module (Apocalypse)\|Bio-Transport Module]] • [[Missile Evasion Matrix (Apocalypse)\|Missile Evasion Matrix]] • [[Small Disruption Shield (Apocalypse)\|Small Disruption Shield]] • [[Large Disruption Shield (Apocalypse)\|Large Disruption Shield]] • [[Cloaking Field (Apocalypse)\|Cloaking Field]] • [[Teleporter (Apocalypse)\|Teleporter]]
	\|}

	Need to double check on the proper names for the power fuel first. Also I think all the options are universal for vehicles, but don't think I've ever tried using the teleporter with roadcars. Probably get blown up by the collapsing road before it gets a chance to activate, I guess.

	~~Again, don't mind me. Work in progress.~~

	~~-[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 00:28, 4 September 2008 (PDT)~~

	: Nice work. I only noticed about the content of these pages today and I'm comparing them with what I did so far. Any ideas of what do add/change next to the navbars? [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 20:29, 12 November 2009 (EST)

	:: I do wish I wouldn't tuck works-in-progress away in obscure parts of the wiki like this. I think adding the mini icons of the vehicles to replace the bullets as you've done with the other sections is the way to go. The visual component helps and polishes it up a little. - [[User:NKF\|NKF]] 23:40, 12 November 2009 (EST)

	::: It is possible to add the mini icons to the Vehicle Weapons (they're already uploaded) but regarding the Engines and Equipment there are no mini icons in the game to represent those. Unless we create them ourselves. Anymore works-in-progress tucked in obscure parts of the wiki? ;) [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 06:55, 13 November 2009 (EST)

	:::: Do we have a collection of any of the inventory screen equipment and engine icons anywhere? I could GIMP them down to size after a bit of a cleanup. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 13:13, 13 November 2009 (EST)


	== Vehicle breakdown/resale profit ==		== Vehicle breakdown/resale profit ==

NKF: /* Vehicle breakdown/resale profit */

2013-04-04T04:32:36Z

Vehicle breakdown/resale profit

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	Would it be acceptable to add a column to this vehicle table, indicating total resale value in parts? Or should that go elsewhere? I'm not sure that it's cheating any more than stun raids and such...		Would it be acceptable to add a column to this vehicle table, indicating total resale value in parts? Or should that go elsewhere? I'm not sure that it's cheating any more than stun raids and such...

			: Stun raids are whole different level of exploitation. This is practically business, heh. A resale value of standard-issue parts would be certainly be handy to have, but keep in mind that the price does change. Perhaps a min and max column? -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 00:32, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

Alloutwar: new questions/section on resale costs

2013-04-03T18:31:40Z

new questions/section on resale costs

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	:::: Do we have a collection of any of the inventory screen equipment and engine icons anywhere? I could GIMP them down to size after a bit of a cleanup. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 13:13, 13 November 2009 (EST)		:::: Do we have a collection of any of the inventory screen equipment and engine icons anywhere? I could GIMP them down to size after a bit of a cleanup. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 13:13, 13 November 2009 (EST)


			== Vehicle breakdown/resale profit ==

			I was watching a 'Let's Play' on YouTube and was reminded of the game flaw, where you can buy a vehicle for $9000, and then sell the equipment and ammo back for $3000, and then the vehicle itself for $7500 or so - basically the profit margin for stripping down a vehicle.

			Would it be acceptable to add a column to this vehicle table, indicating total resale value in parts? Or should that go elsewhere? I'm not sure that it's cheating any more than stun raids and such...