Talk:UFO Incursions (Apocalypse) - Revision history

EsTeR: thanks!

2022-06-23T00:49:30Z

thanks!

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	I've added descriptions to the mission types and renamed 'Air Raid' to 'Bombing' to help clear up the (correctly identified) confusing structure of the page. Feel free to edit the wording where necessary, though please don't just undo the changes if you don't agree with them. Hope it helps! [[User:Frission\|Frission]] ([[User talk:Frission\|talk]]) 04:33, 25 February 2022 (CET)		I've added descriptions to the mission types and renamed 'Air Raid' to 'Bombing' to help clear up the (correctly identified) confusing structure of the page. Feel free to edit the wording where necessary, though please don't just undo the changes if you don't agree with them. Hope it helps! [[User:Frission\|Frission]] ([[User talk:Frission\|talk]]) 04:33, 25 February 2022 (CET)


			'''LOL''' my passive-agressive suggestions... anyways, the article page is good now with implemented suggestions from you all. Thx! [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])

Frission at 03:33, 25 February 2022

2022-02-25T03:33:57Z

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	:::I'd avoid the word "Raid" because it is already used to describe attacks on other organisations ("Raid Building", "Organization raided" etc.). As EsTeR says, "Search and Destroy" has a certain ring to it; the only other name I can think of is "Search and Assault". [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 06:58, 6 August 2020 (UTC)		:::I'd avoid the word "Raid" because it is already used to describe attacks on other organisations ("Raid Building", "Organization raided" etc.). As EsTeR says, "Search and Destroy" has a certain ring to it; the only other name I can think of is "Search and Assault". [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 06:58, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

	I've added descriptions to the mission types and renamed 'Air Raid' to 'Bombing' to help clear up the (correctly identified) confusing structure of the page. Feel free to edit the wording where necessary, though please don't just undo the changes if you don't agree with them. Hope it helps! --[[User:Frission\|Frission]] ([[User talk:Frission\|talk]]) 04:33, 25 February 2022 (CET)		I've added descriptions to the mission types and renamed 'Air Raid' to 'Bombing' to help clear up the (correctly identified) confusing structure of the page. Feel free to edit the wording where necessary, though please don't just undo the changes if you don't agree with them. Hope it helps! [[User:Frission\|Frission]] ([[User talk:Frission\|talk]]) 04:33, 25 February 2022 (CET)

Frission at 03:33, 25 February 2022

2022-02-25T03:33:26Z

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	:::I'd avoid the word "Raid" because it is already used to describe attacks on other organisations ("Raid Building", "Organization raided" etc.). As EsTeR says, "Search and Destroy" has a certain ring to it; the only other name I can think of is "Search and Assault". [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 06:58, 6 August 2020 (UTC)		:::I'd avoid the word "Raid" because it is already used to describe attacks on other organisations ("Raid Building", "Organization raided" etc.). As EsTeR says, "Search and Destroy" has a certain ring to it; the only other name I can think of is "Search and Assault". [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 06:58, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

	I've added descriptions to the mission types and renamed 'Air Raid' to 'Bombing' to help clear up the (correctly identified) confusing structure of the page. Feel free to edit the wording where necessary, though please don't just undo the changes if you don't agree with them. Hope it helps! --[[User:Frission\|Frission]] ([[User talk:Frission\|talk]])		I've added descriptions to the mission types and renamed 'Air Raid' to 'Bombing' to help clear up the (correctly identified) confusing structure of the page. Feel free to edit the wording where necessary, though please don't just undo the changes if you don't agree with them. Hope it helps! --[[User:Frission\|Frission]] ([[User talk:Frission\|talk]]) 04:33, 25 February 2022 (CET)

Frission: /* Confusing Page Structure */

2022-02-25T03:31:02Z

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	:::I'd avoid the word "Raid" because it is already used to describe attacks on other organisations ("Raid Building", "Organization raided" etc.). As EsTeR says, "Search and Destroy" has a certain ring to it; the only other name I can think of is "Search and Assault". [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 06:58, 6 August 2020 (UTC)		:::I'd avoid the word "Raid" because it is already used to describe attacks on other organisations ("Raid Building", "Organization raided" etc.). As EsTeR says, "Search and Destroy" has a certain ring to it; the only other name I can think of is "Search and Assault". [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 06:58, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

			I've added descriptions to the mission types and renamed 'Air Raid' to 'Bombing' to help clear up the (correctly identified) confusing structure of the page. Feel free to edit the wording where necessary, though please don't just undo the changes if you don't agree with them. Hope it helps! --[[User:Frission\|Frission]] ([[User talk:Frission\|talk]])

Darkpast: /* Confusing Page Structure */

2020-08-06T06:59:08Z

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	:: Search and Destroy. I think it works. Its cheesy and doesn't really have mystique to it... but thats what the aliens are really doing! I think everyone had a suspicion that the blue rain dodn't work over the twenty something years this game is been out, but only with editors were some finer details able to be changed to test things out - short of decompiling the exe(s) which is a grey area legally. Oh no... grey area... I'll see myself out, LOL [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])		:: Search and Destroy. I think it works. Its cheesy and doesn't really have mystique to it... but thats what the aliens are really doing! I think everyone had a suspicion that the blue rain dodn't work over the twenty something years this game is been out, but only with editors were some finer details able to be changed to test things out - short of decompiling the exe(s) which is a grey area legally. Oh no... grey area... I'll see myself out, LOL [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])

			:::I'd avoid the word "Raid" because it is already used to describe attacks on other organisations ("Raid Building", "Organization raided" etc.). As EsTeR says, "Search and Destroy" has a certain ring to it; the only other name I can think of is "Search and Assault". [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 06:58, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

EsTeR: hmm

2020-08-05T17:02:12Z

hmm

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	:::@Darkpast: "Search&Raid"? Clunky, but gets the point across IMO. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 04:24, 5 August 2020 (UTC)		:::@Darkpast: "Search&Raid"? Clunky, but gets the point across IMO. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 04:24, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

			:: Search and Destroy. I think it works. Its cheesy and doesn't really have mystique to it... but thats what the aliens are really doing! I think everyone had a suspicion that the blue rain dodn't work over the twenty something years this game is been out, but only with editors were some finer details able to be changed to test things out - short of decompiling the exe(s) which is a grey area legally. Oh no... grey area... I'll see myself out, LOL [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])

Magic9mushroom: /* Confusing Page Structure */

2020-08-05T04:24:40Z

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	:: Btw, the term "Blue rain" has also been used to describe the alien beam. I still have no good idea for a proper name for the mission, though. "Retaliation" isn't good because bombing and Overspawn are also forms of retaliation. "Scan" doesn't sound right, either.		:: Btw, the term "Blue rain" has also been used to describe the alien beam. I still have no good idea for a proper name for the mission, though. "Retaliation" isn't good because bombing and Overspawn are also forms of retaliation. "Scan" doesn't sound right, either.
	:: As for the bombing - I guess "Bombing Mission" or "Bombing Run" would be better than "Air Raid", then, for the reasons EsTeR suggests. "Infiltration" or "Infiltration Mission" and "Overspawn Drop" sound good for the remaining two alien missions. [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 17:44, 4 August 2020 (UTC)		:: As for the bombing - I guess "Bombing Mission" or "Bombing Run" would be better than "Air Raid", then, for the reasons EsTeR suggests. "Infiltration" or "Infiltration Mission" and "Overspawn Drop" sound good for the remaining two alien missions. [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 17:44, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

			:::@NKF: I did a whole bunch of tests myself, with no insta-flips regardless of infiltration%, but the reason I'm sure is because the OpenApoc people (in particular Skin36) have decompiled Apocalypse and he told me it doesn't flip organisations but rather looks for your base. My testing confirmed that if they find your base, subsequent missions of that type will always drop in. I'm not saying his interpretation of code is perfect - I've worked with him on this in a few other issues to nut out what the code's actually doing - but any org flip code should be blindingly obvious.

			:::@Darkpast: "Search&Raid"? Clunky, but gets the point across IMO. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 04:24, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Darkpast at 17:45, 4 August 2020

2020-08-04T17:45:18Z

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	: It's certainly what it has been known by. I've called it by that. However I do think a more fitting term would be better if one can be decided on. By the way I've only really caught the whole Micronoid Rain thing on the tail end. Was the test on the blue beam done to see if there was an immediate alliance flip, or was some time allowed after that to observe the behaviour of the affected company? [[User:NKF\|NKF]] ([[User talk:NKF\|talk]]) 10:22, 4 August 2020 (UTC)		: It's certainly what it has been known by. I've called it by that. However I do think a more fitting term would be better if one can be decided on. By the way I've only really caught the whole Micronoid Rain thing on the tail end. Was the test on the blue beam done to see if there was an immediate alliance flip, or was some time allowed after that to observe the behaviour of the affected company? [[User:NKF\|NKF]] ([[User talk:NKF\|talk]]) 10:22, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

			:: Why not simply have a redirect entitled "Micronoid Rain" that takes the user to the properly-named page?
			:: Btw, the term "Blue rain" has also been used to describe the alien beam. I still have no good idea for a proper name for the mission, though. "Retaliation" isn't good because bombing and Overspawn are also forms of retaliation. "Scan" doesn't sound right, either.
			:: As for the bombing - I guess "Bombing Mission" or "Bombing Run" would be better than "Air Raid", then, for the reasons EsTeR suggests. "Infiltration" or "Infiltration Mission" and "Overspawn Drop" sound good for the remaining two alien missions. [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 17:44, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

NKF: /* Confusing Page Structure */

2020-08-04T10:22:54Z

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	:: Then what is the mission to be called which just about everyone who went to any forum over the years to discuss what that blue rain is? The cat is out of the bag and you cannot undo thousands of forum posts which novice players will look to when having questions - eventually micronoid rain will pop up. Micronoid Rain is what it is known to be called. Its completely wrong but everyone uses it hence, that immediate blurb about what it actually is. Kevlar is a known name. Aramid is its actual name. How many people have actually heard of Aramid? Micronoid Rain is its known name.... [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])		:: Then what is the mission to be called which just about everyone who went to any forum over the years to discuss what that blue rain is? The cat is out of the bag and you cannot undo thousands of forum posts which novice players will look to when having questions - eventually micronoid rain will pop up. Micronoid Rain is what it is known to be called. Its completely wrong but everyone uses it hence, that immediate blurb about what it actually is. Kevlar is a known name. Aramid is its actual name. How many people have actually heard of Aramid? Micronoid Rain is its known name.... [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])

			: It's certainly what it has been known by. I've called it by that. However I do think a more fitting term would be better if one can be decided on. By the way I've only really caught the whole Micronoid Rain thing on the tail end. Was the test on the blue beam done to see if there was an immediate alliance flip, or was some time allowed after that to observe the behaviour of the affected company? [[User:NKF\|NKF]] ([[User talk:NKF\|talk]]) 10:22, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

EsTeR at 09:01, 4 August 2020

2020-08-04T09:01:31Z

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	:::I am absolutely opposed to calling #3 Micronoid Rain. It doesn't look like Micronoids; it was only called that because people thought it mind-controlled organisations and that would imply dropping Micronoids. It doesn't control organisations, therefore calling it Micronoid Rain is confusing and wrong. We can mention the "Micronoid Rain" myth in a footnote, but it cannot be the name of the mission. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 06:34, 4 August 2020 (UTC)		:::I am absolutely opposed to calling #3 Micronoid Rain. It doesn't look like Micronoids; it was only called that because people thought it mind-controlled organisations and that would imply dropping Micronoids. It doesn't control organisations, therefore calling it Micronoid Rain is confusing and wrong. We can mention the "Micronoid Rain" myth in a footnote, but it cannot be the name of the mission. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 06:34, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

			:: Then what is the mission to be called which just about everyone who went to any forum over the years to discuss what that blue rain is? The cat is out of the bag and you cannot undo thousands of forum posts which novice players will look to when having questions - eventually micronoid rain will pop up. Micronoid Rain is what it is known to be called. Its completely wrong but everyone uses it hence, that immediate blurb about what it actually is. Kevlar is a known name. Aramid is its actual name. How many people have actually heard of Aramid? Micronoid Rain is its known name.... [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])