Talk:Trade (Apocalypse) - Revision history

EsTeR at 06:55, 27 July 2022

2022-07-27T06:55:38Z

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	==Reservations On Price Changes==		==Reservations On Price Changes==
	I am not exactly sure what is going on with what I've been testing to confirm the sell and buy price swings. Some games^ will have the price decrease for items that do not sell (which usually triggers price reduction once ~~maximun~~ "total market quantity" is reached) but other times the sell price does not decrease when that upper stock limit is reached.		I am not exactly sure what is going on with what I've been testing to confirm the sell and buy price swings. Some games^ will have the price decrease for items that do not sell (which usually triggers price reduction once maximum "total market quantity" is reached) but other times the sell price does not decrease when that upper stock limit is reached.
	* could it be tied to the start quantity?		* could it be tied to the start quantity?
	eg: stun grapple stock can be either ~~2items~~ or ~~~10items~~ randomly at each game start - does this low/high stock quantity affect future volatility?		eg: stun grapple stock can be either 4items or ~20items randomly at each game start - does this low/high stock quantity affect future volatility?
	* does difficulty affect the upper/lower stock available at start? (somethings yes, it seems, but I have had maximum stock levels of superhuman starts)		* does difficulty affect the upper/lower stock available at start? (somethings yes, it seems, but I have had maximum stock levels of superhuman starts)
	* is there some sort of internal code to weaken the severity of swings if the product quantity at game start was low? Like a ~~gloal~~ seed to influence all <u>standard</u> items?		* is there some sort of internal code to weaken the severity of swings if the product quantity at game start was low? Like a global seed to influence all <u>standard</u> items?
	* does a product need to be bought or sold first to 'start' the weekly low/high price swings, since I've had no price decrease of items I have not touched (buying or selling them) once the "total market quantity" if reached? eg: never sold Lawpistol ammo or the gun. I just used what I had then threw them on the ground and did an 'escape' instead of mission complete.		* does a product need to be bought or sold first to 'start' the weekly low/high price swings, since I've had no price decrease of items I have not touched (buying or selling them) once the "total market quantity" if reached? eg: never sold Lawpistol ammo or the gun. I just used what I had then threw them on the ground and did an 'escape' instead of mission complete.
	* are swings influenced by overall score and difficulty and not by a global seed? eg: bad score will decease the chance of minimal stock of the new week so that a struggling player can buy guns and ammo?		* are swings influenced by overall score and difficulty and not by a global seed? eg: bad score will decease the chance of minimal stock of the new week so that a struggling player can buy guns and ammo?

	^ games specifically accelerated by ignoring the alien thing to only test this feature 'buy all, flooding. not buying anything, partial sells etc.' to watch what happens - but I've noticed the same things when playing proper SH games.		^ games specifically accelerated by ignoring the alien thing to only test this feature 'buy all, flooding. not buying anything, partial sells etc.' to watch what happens - but I've noticed the same things when playing proper SH games.

EsTeR: observations of price and stock swings

2022-07-23T04:47:26Z

observations of price and stock swings

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	Not sure where this should go, but damaged vehicles have a reduced sell value. It seems to be proportional to the severity of the damage. [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 18:14, 8 July 2020 (UTC)		Not sure where this should go, but damaged vehicles have a reduced sell value. It seems to be proportional to the severity of the damage. [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 18:14, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

			==Reservations On Price Changes==
			I am not exactly sure what is going on with what I've been testing to confirm the sell and buy price swings. Some games^ will have the price decrease for items that do not sell (which usually triggers price reduction once maximun "total market quantity" is reached) but other times the sell price does not decrease when that upper stock limit is reached.
			* could it be tied to the start quantity?
			eg: stun grapple stock can be either 2items or ~10items randomly at each game start - does this low/high stock quantity affect future volatility?
			* does difficulty affect the upper/lower stock available at start? (somethings yes, it seems, but I have had maximum stock levels of superhuman starts)
			* is there some sort of internal code to weaken the severity of swings if the product quantity at game start was low? Like a gloal seed to influence all <u>standard</u> items?
			* does a product need to be bought or sold first to 'start' the weekly low/high price swings, since I've had no price decrease of items I have not touched (buying or selling them) once the "total market quantity" if reached? eg: never sold Lawpistol ammo or the gun. I just used what I had then threw them on the ground and did an 'escape' instead of mission complete.
			* are swings influenced by overall score and difficulty and not by a global seed? eg: bad score will decease the chance of minimal stock of the new week so that a struggling player can buy guns and ammo?

			^ games specifically accelerated by ignoring the alien thing to only test this feature 'buy all, flooding. not buying anything, partial sells etc.' to watch what happens - but I've noticed the same things when playing proper SH games.

Darkpast: /* Price of damaged vehicles */ new section

2020-07-08T18:14:34Z

Price of damaged vehicles: new section

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	: I coined the name of the section on a whim - more as a filler and never expected it to be used. That's actually true for a lot of the other sections that have might seem odd. However, for this one I think I made it with the intention to include information how trade works. What can be bought (and when), from whom, what can be sold (including manufacturable goods) and for how much, and then describing the specifics on how price changes over time. Something along those lines. - [[User:NKF\|NKF]]		: I coined the name of the section on a whim - more as a filler and never expected it to be used. That's actually true for a lot of the other sections that have might seem odd. However, for this one I think I made it with the intention to include information how trade works. What can be bought (and when), from whom, what can be sold (including manufacturable goods) and for how much, and then describing the specifics on how price changes over time. Something along those lines. - [[User:NKF\|NKF]]

			== Price of damaged vehicles ==

			Not sure where this should go, but damaged vehicles have a reduced sell value. It seems to be proportional to the severity of the damage. [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 18:14, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

NKF at 05:41, 13 October 2007

2007-10-13T05:41:56Z

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	Is this where manufacturing/buying/selling profitability for Apocalypse goes?		Is this where manufacturing/buying/selling profitability for Apocalypse goes?
	[[User:NinthRank\|NinthRank]] 21:21, 12 October 2007 (PDT)		[[User:NinthRank\|NinthRank]] 21:21, 12 October 2007 (PDT)

			: I coined the name of the section on a whim - more as a filler and never expected it to be used. That's actually true for a lot of the other sections that have might seem odd. However, for this one I think I made it with the intention to include information how trade works. What can be bought (and when), from whom, what can be sold (including manufacturable goods) and for how much, and then describing the specifics on how price changes over time. Something along those lines. - [[User:NKF\|NKF]]

NinthRank at 04:21, 13 October 2007

2007-10-13T04:21:47Z

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	Is this where manufacturing/buying/selling profitability for Apocalypse goes?		Is this where manufacturing/buying/selling profitability for Apocalypse goes?
			[[User:NinthRank\|NinthRank]] 21:21, 12 October 2007 (PDT)

NinthRank: What's supposed to go here?

2007-10-13T04:21:24Z

What's supposed to go here?

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== What's supposed to go here? ==

Is this where manufacturing/buying/selling profitability for Apocalypse goes?