Talk:Tentaculat - Revision history

Magic9mushroom: /* Scary Bio-Drones? */

2023-11-28T10:55:37Z

Scary Bio-Drones?

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	:So in other words, I agree with removing the reference in this article. But in the Bio-Drone article and alien overview I'd tone it down rather than removing it entirely - i.e. describe them as strong but not super-powerful. [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 16:59, 18 November 2023 (CET)		:So in other words, I agree with removing the reference in this article. But in the Bio-Drone article and alien overview I'd tone it down rather than removing it entirely - i.e. describe them as strong but not super-powerful. [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 16:59, 18 November 2023 (CET)

			::For the record, it's only 36% for Bio-Drones to appear on 1 April; you have to have Shipping Route (60%), and it has to not be Aquatoids/Gill Men (60%). Will try to work out something to put on the other articles, though. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 11:55, 28 November 2023 (CET)

Darkpast at 15:59, 18 November 2023

2023-11-18T15:59:11Z

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	:As an aside, I'd appreciate your input over on [[Talk:Weapon Effectiveness (TFTD)]]. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 09:39, 18 November 2023 (CET)		:As an aside, I'd appreciate your input over on [[Talk:Weapon Effectiveness (TFTD)]]. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 09:39, 18 November 2023 (CET)

			:Thanks. It's interesting though because back in the day even Coelacanths seemed very resilient - I was thinking it may have been bugged, but I'm probably misremembering. I played OpenXcom more recently and it seemed to be like you say. I'll have a look at the weapon damage tomorrow. [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 16:59, 18 November 2023 (CET)

	==Scary Bio-Drones?==		==Scary Bio-Drones?==

	Does anyone mind if I remove the reference in this article and elsewhere to Bio-Drones being some super-scary alien? Sure, they're at least on par with a sonic-equipped Tasoth Soldier, but compared to aliens with DPLs (particularly Lobster Men) or to Tentaculats they're pretty tame, and even Xarquid/Triscenes are arguable (yes, there's the huge explosive weakness, but they're both way tougher against anything else and both have much better odds of getting through Magnetic Ion Armour). [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 09:39, 18 November 2023 (CET)		Does anyone mind if I remove the reference in this article and elsewhere to Bio-Drones being some super-scary alien? Sure, they're at least on par with a sonic-equipped Tasoth Soldier, but compared to aliens with DPLs (particularly Lobster Men) or to Tentaculats they're pretty tame, and even Xarquid/Triscenes are arguable (yes, there's the huge explosive weakness, but they're both way tougher against anything else and both have much better odds of getting through Magnetic Ion Armour). [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 09:39, 18 November 2023 (CET)

			:Hm, I guess you're right. While they are one of the stronger aliens, being faster, tougher and more accurate than a Tasoth Soldier and able to fly, they can't kill multiple aquanauts with one attack (except when exploding), have no MC and no zombification. I think the Bio-Drones' reputation may be due to the fact that they appear on the shipping route terror missions on 1 April, where there are no DPLs and the player probably hasn't faced Tentaculats yet.

			:So in other words, I agree with removing the reference in this article. But in the Bio-Drone article and alien overview I'd tone it down rather than removing it entirely - i.e. describe them as strong but not super-powerful. [[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 16:59, 18 November 2023 (CET)

Magic9mushroom: /* Tentaculat vs. SWS */

2023-11-18T08:39:47Z

Tentaculat vs. SWS

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	So does anyone know how a Tentaculat's melee damage vs. SWSs is handled? In other words, how resilient are SWSs against their attacks?		So does anyone know how a Tentaculat's melee damage vs. SWSs is handled? In other words, how resilient are SWSs against their attacks?
	[[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 07:37, 29 August 2021 (UTC)		[[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 07:37, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

			:It's a normal mêlée attack. Base power is Tentaculat's strength (100 to 124 depending on difficulty), multiplied by 0.5-1.5 like all TFTD attacks, then it's modified by the relevant damage modifier (x0.8; SWSs resist mêlée), then reduced by armour (90/75/75/60 for front/left/right/rear of a Coelacanth, 130 for any facing of a Displacer).

			:The upshot is that Coelacanths tend to die pretty fast (since Tentaculats can make many attacks per turn), but Displacers are either totally immune (Beginner/Experienced/Veteran) or almost immune (Genius/Superhuman).

			:As an aside, I'd appreciate your input over on [[Talk:Weapon Effectiveness (TFTD)]]. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 09:39, 18 November 2023 (CET)

			==Scary Bio-Drones?==

			Does anyone mind if I remove the reference in this article and elsewhere to Bio-Drones being some super-scary alien? Sure, they're at least on par with a sonic-equipped Tasoth Soldier, but compared to aliens with DPLs (particularly Lobster Men) or to Tentaculats they're pretty tame, and even Xarquid/Triscenes are arguable (yes, there's the huge explosive weakness, but they're both way tougher against anything else and both have much better odds of getting through Magnetic Ion Armour). [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 09:39, 18 November 2023 (CET)

Darkpast: /* Tentaculat vs. SWS */ new section

2021-08-29T07:37:08Z

Tentaculat vs. SWS: new section

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	:If they're anything like the Chryssalids (which they probably are), they don't actually do damage. Any attack by them is instantly lethal and spawns a zombie.		:If they're anything like the Chryssalids (which they probably are), they don't actually do damage. Any attack by them is instantly lethal and spawns a zombie.
	:[[User:Debesh Unnos\|Debesh Unnos]] 21:54, 12 February 2013 (EST)		:[[User:Debesh Unnos\|Debesh Unnos]] 21:54, 12 February 2013 (EST)

			== Tentaculat vs. SWS ==

			So does anyone know how a Tentaculat's melee damage vs. SWSs is handled? In other words, how resilient are SWSs against their attacks?
			[[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 07:37, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Debesh Unnos at 02:54, 13 February 2013

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	How much damage do their attacks do?		How much damage do their attacks do?

			:If they're anything like the Chryssalids (which they probably are), they don't actually do damage. Any attack by them is instantly lethal and spawns a zombie.
			:[[User:Debesh Unnos\|Debesh Unnos]] 21:54, 12 February 2013 (EST)

Jasonred: New page: How much damage do their attacks do?

2009-04-07T09:01:22Z

New page: How much damage do their attacks do?

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How much damage do their attacks do?