Talk:TFTDextender - Revision history

Off the Rails: /* Major Bugs */ more info + saved game

2016-04-28T22:16:11Z

Major Bugs: more info + saved game

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	:''If this happens again, please include any error message as well.'' -[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 09:37, 2 June 2015 (EDT)		:''If this happens again, please include any error message as well.'' -[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 09:37, 2 June 2015 (EDT)
			::I also encountered this issue. Saved game here: [[File:GAME_InterceptorCrash.zip]] There are two failure modes I've seen. Either the game dumps to desktop with this error message: ''TFTD crashed at 0x556EC1C7 with error 0xC0000005 trying to access 0x00F03634'', or the interception runs as normal except that the Barracuda doesn't fire its weapons. Either is inconvenient :-) [[User:Off the Rails\|Off the Rails]] ([[User talk:Off the Rails\|talk]]) 22:16, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

	Latest issue of TFTD full, with the 7.2 patch		Latest issue of TFTD full, with the 7.2 patch

Morgan525: /* Minor Bugs */

2016-03-18T07:03:18Z

Minor Bugs

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	* For some reason, the loader (newest version) opens TWO windows at startup. One is titled 'X-COM Terror From the Deep Gold Edition' and contains the game's video output, the other is titled 'Terror From The Deep.exe' and is completely blank (not even a blinking console prompt). Win7 auto-groups their buttons on the taskbar and closing either closes the other too. Is this normal behavior or am I missing something?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:47, 24 August 2013 (EDT)		* For some reason, the loader (newest version) opens TWO windows at startup. One is titled 'X-COM Terror From the Deep Gold Edition' and contains the game's video output, the other is titled 'Terror From The Deep.exe' and is completely blank (not even a blinking console prompt). Win7 auto-groups their buttons on the taskbar and closing either closes the other too. Is this normal behavior or am I missing something?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:47, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
	''To my knowledge, this has always been the case even with UFO Extender. The first 'blank' window is the loader which spawns the second 'game' window. Closing the Extender will abort the game and quitting the game automatically closes the Extender.''		<s>''To my knowledge, this has always been the case even with UFO Extender. The first 'blank' window is the loader which spawns the second 'game' window. Closing the Extender will abort the game and quitting the game automatically closes the Extender.''</s>
	:: Well, UFOextender never did that for me, only TFTDextender. Maybe it's due to using an earlier build?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:43, 25 August 2013 (EDT)		:: Well, UFOextender never did that for me, only TFTDextender. Maybe it's due to using an earlier build?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:43, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
	''It's doesn't happen with UFO. I checked earlier versions and this has been present since the beginning. The command to create the process for the game is different from UFO and the flags don't seem to allow the extender shell window to close. I've tried a few things but either they have no effect or they lock the game as it boots up. Since it is a cosmetic issue and doesn't impact the gameplay, I'm not too concerned with it for now.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]])		<s>''It's doesn't happen with UFO. I checked earlier versions and this has been present since the beginning. The command to create the process for the game is different from UFO and the flags don't seem to allow the extender shell window to close. I've tried a few things but either they have no effect or they lock the game as it boots up. Since it is a cosmetic issue and doesn't impact the gameplay, I'm not too concerned with it for now.''</s>-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]])

	''~~I found the reason for the second window and have changed the code to prevent the second window from closing~~.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 06:58, 18 March 2016 (UTC)		'''Fixed in version 1.07.3'''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 06:58, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

	== Things that TFTDextender does not fix ==		== Things that TFTDextender does not fix ==

Morgan525: /* Minor Bugs */

2016-03-18T06:58:30Z

Minor Bugs

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	:: Well, UFOextender never did that for me, only TFTDextender. Maybe it's due to using an earlier build?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:43, 25 August 2013 (EDT)		:: Well, UFOextender never did that for me, only TFTDextender. Maybe it's due to using an earlier build?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:43, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
	''It's doesn't happen with UFO. I checked earlier versions and this has been present since the beginning. The command to create the process for the game is different from UFO and the flags don't seem to allow the extender shell window to close. I've tried a few things but either they have no effect or they lock the game as it boots up. Since it is a cosmetic issue and doesn't impact the gameplay, I'm not too concerned with it for now.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]])		''It's doesn't happen with UFO. I checked earlier versions and this has been present since the beginning. The command to create the process for the game is different from UFO and the flags don't seem to allow the extender shell window to close. I've tried a few things but either they have no effect or they lock the game as it boots up. Since it is a cosmetic issue and doesn't impact the gameplay, I'm not too concerned with it for now.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]])

	''I found the reason for the second window and have changed the code to prevent the second window from closing.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 06:58, 18 March 2016 (UTC)		''I found the reason for the second window and have changed the code to prevent the second window from closing.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 06:58, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Morgan525: /* Minor Bugs */

2016-03-18T06:58:13Z

Minor Bugs

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	:: Well, UFOextender never did that for me, only TFTDextender. Maybe it's due to using an earlier build?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:43, 25 August 2013 (EDT)		:: Well, UFOextender never did that for me, only TFTDextender. Maybe it's due to using an earlier build?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:43, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
	''It's doesn't happen with UFO. I checked earlier versions and this has been present since the beginning. The command to create the process for the game is different from UFO and the flags don't seem to allow the extender shell window to close. I've tried a few things but either they have no effect or they lock the game as it boots up. Since it is a cosmetic issue and doesn't impact the gameplay, I'm not too concerned with it for now.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]])		''It's doesn't happen with UFO. I checked earlier versions and this has been present since the beginning. The command to create the process for the game is different from UFO and the flags don't seem to allow the extender shell window to close. I've tried a few things but either they have no effect or they lock the game as it boots up. Since it is a cosmetic issue and doesn't impact the gameplay, I'm not too concerned with it for now.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]])
			''I found the reason for the second window and have changed the code to prevent the second window from closing.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 06:58, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

	== Things that TFTDextender does not fix ==		== Things that TFTDextender does not fix ==

Morgan525: /* Major Bugs */

2015-06-03T05:45:51Z

Major Bugs

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	Latest issue of TFTD full, with the 7.2 patch		Latest issue of TFTD full, with the 7.2 patch
	I noticed in first tactical game that one of my aquanauts holding a gas cannon had it magically transformed into a sonic pistol (i think from the Deep One I was targetting at the time). Obviously I could not use it as it was my first mission. When I clicked away from the aquanaut and clicked back on him later, the sonic pistol was back to the gas cannon.		I noticed in first tactical game that one of my aquanauts holding a gas cannon had it magically transformed into a sonic pistol (i think from the Deep One I was targetting at the time). Obviously I could not use it as it was my first mission. When I clicked away from the aquanaut and clicked back on him later, the sonic pistol was back to the gas cannon.
	:''This sounds like the strangeness that using the '''More Reaction Fire" mod can introduce. Try playing the game without that mod enabled for a while.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 01:45, 3 June 2015 (EDT)		:''This sounds like the strangeness that using the '''More Reaction Fire''' mod can introduce. Try playing the game without that mod enabled for a while.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 01:45, 3 June 2015 (EDT)
	I also note that even though I only expended 2 shots from each of my gas cannons carrying HE ammo, all my HE ammo was used up at the end of the mission.		I also note that even though I only expended 2 shots from each of my gas cannons carrying HE ammo, all my HE ammo was used up at the end of the mission.

Morgan525: /* Major Bugs */

2015-06-03T05:45:09Z

Major Bugs

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	Running windowed mode with most things switched on apart from the [ make defense missions harder ] mods. Geoscape and battlefield shortcuts switched [off].		Running windowed mode with most things switched on apart from the [ make defense missions harder ] mods. Geoscape and battlefield shortcuts switched [off].

	:''If this happens again, please include ~~the~~ error message as well.'' -[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 09:37, 2 June 2015 (EDT)		:''If this happens again, please include any error message as well.'' -[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 09:37, 2 June 2015 (EDT)

	Latest issue of TFTD full, with the 7.2 patch		Latest issue of TFTD full, with the 7.2 patch
	I noticed in first tactical game that one of my aquanauts holding a gas cannon had it magically transformed into a sonic pistol (i think from the Deep One I was targetting at the time). Obviously I could not use it as it was my first mission. When I clicked away from the aquanaut and clicked back on him later, the sonic pistol was back to the gas cannon.		I noticed in first tactical game that one of my aquanauts holding a gas cannon had it magically transformed into a sonic pistol (i think from the Deep One I was targetting at the time). Obviously I could not use it as it was my first mission. When I clicked away from the aquanaut and clicked back on him later, the sonic pistol was back to the gas cannon.
			:''This sounds like the strangeness that using the '''More Reaction Fire" mod can introduce. Try playing the game without that mod enabled for a while.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 01:45, 3 June 2015 (EDT)
	I also note that even though I only expended 2 shots from each of my gas cannons carrying HE ammo, all my HE ammo was used up at the end of the mission.		I also note that even though I only expended 2 shots from each of my gas cannons carrying HE ammo, all my HE ammo was used up at the end of the mission.

Morgan525: /* Major Bugs */

2015-06-03T00:23:28Z

Major Bugs

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	:''If this happens again, please include the error message as well.'' -[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 09:37, 2 June 2015 (EDT)		:''If this happens again, please include the error message as well.'' -[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 09:37, 2 June 2015 (EDT)

			Latest issue of TFTD full, with the 7.2 patch
			I noticed in first tactical game that one of my aquanauts holding a gas cannon had it magically transformed into a sonic pistol (i think from the Deep One I was targetting at the time). Obviously I could not use it as it was my first mission. When I clicked away from the aquanaut and clicked back on him later, the sonic pistol was back to the gas cannon.

			I also note that even though I only expended 2 shots from each of my gas cannons carrying HE ammo, all my HE ammo was used up at the end of the mission.

			TFTD needs the "collect ammo" feature that is used in UFO.
			:''TFTD does have the collect ammo feature but it seems it needs more work.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 20:23, 2 June 2015 (EDT)

	=== Minor Bugs ===		=== Minor Bugs ===

Morgan525: /* Minor Bugs */

2015-06-02T13:50:05Z

Minor Bugs

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	''To my knowledge, this has always been the case even with UFO Extender. The first 'blank' window is the loader which spawns the second 'game' window. Closing the Extender will abort the game and quitting the game automatically closes the Extender.''		''To my knowledge, this has always been the case even with UFO Extender. The first 'blank' window is the loader which spawns the second 'game' window. Closing the Extender will abort the game and quitting the game automatically closes the Extender.''
	:: Well, UFOextender never did that for me, only TFTDextender. Maybe it's due to using an earlier build?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:43, 25 August 2013 (EDT)		:: Well, UFOextender never did that for me, only TFTDextender. Maybe it's due to using an earlier build?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:43, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
	''It's doesn't happen with UFO. I checked earlier versions and this has been present since the beginning. The process for the game is different from EU and the flags don't seem to allow the extender shell window to close ~~properly~~. I've tried a few things but either they have no effect or they lock the game as it boots up. Since it is a cosmetic issue and doesn't impact the gameplay, I'm not too concerned with it for now.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]])		''It's doesn't happen with UFO. I checked earlier versions and this has been present since the beginning. The command to create the process for the game is different from UFO and the flags don't seem to allow the extender shell window to close. I've tried a few things but either they have no effect or they lock the game as it boots up. Since it is a cosmetic issue and doesn't impact the gameplay, I'm not too concerned with it for now.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]])

	== Things that TFTDextender does not fix ==		== Things that TFTDextender does not fix ==

Morgan525: /* Minor Bugs */

2015-06-02T13:48:46Z

Minor Bugs

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	* For some reason, the loader (newest version) opens TWO windows at startup. One is titled 'X-COM Terror From the Deep Gold Edition' and contains the game's video output, the other is titled 'Terror From The Deep.exe' and is completely blank (not even a blinking console prompt). Win7 auto-groups their buttons on the taskbar and closing either closes the other too. Is this normal behavior or am I missing something?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:47, 24 August 2013 (EDT)		* For some reason, the loader (newest version) opens TWO windows at startup. One is titled 'X-COM Terror From the Deep Gold Edition' and contains the game's video output, the other is titled 'Terror From The Deep.exe' and is completely blank (not even a blinking console prompt). Win7 auto-groups their buttons on the taskbar and closing either closes the other too. Is this normal behavior or am I missing something?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:47, 24 August 2013 (EDT)
	''To my knowledge, this has always been the case even with UFO Extender. The first 'blank' window is the loader which spawns the second 'game' window. Closing the Extender will abort the game and quitting the game automatically closes the Extender.''		''To my knowledge, this has always been the case even with UFO Extender. The first 'blank' window is the loader which spawns the second 'game' window. Closing the Extender will abort the game and quitting the game automatically closes the Extender.''
	** Well, UFOextender never did that for me, only TFTDextender. Maybe it's due to using an earlier build?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:43, 25 August 2013 (EDT)		:: Well, UFOextender never did that for me, only TFTDextender. Maybe it's due to using an earlier build?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:43, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
	''~~Yeah, it~~'s ~~not~~ with UFO ~~but~~ I ~~just~~ checked earlier versions and this has been present since the beginning. The ~~method that the window~~ for the game ~~is created in the executable~~ is different and the flags don't seem to allow the extender shell window to close properly. I've tried a few things but either they have no effect or they lock the game as it boots up. Since ~~this~~ is ~~more of~~ a cosmetic issue and doesn't impact the gameplay, I'm not ~~going to concentrate on~~ it for now.''		''It's doesn't happen with UFO. I checked earlier versions and this has been present since the beginning. The process for the game is different from EU and the flags don't seem to allow the extender shell window to close properly. I've tried a few things but either they have no effect or they lock the game as it boots up. Since it is a cosmetic issue and doesn't impact the gameplay, I'm not too concerned with it for now.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]])

	== Things that TFTDextender does not fix ==		== Things that TFTDextender does not fix ==

Morgan525: /* Major Bugs */

2015-06-02T13:37:22Z

Major Bugs

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	*(a)Lobstermen don't use their guns and (b)their melee attack is weak.		*(a)Lobstermen don't use their guns and (b)their melee attack is weak.
	:''The first part(a) is a problem in the fix for the code to determine a unit's abilities in the first step of the AI process. The latter problem (b) is a bug in the original program. If a unit has a ranged weapon, the damage is set to the value of the weapon's melee attack and not the strength of the lobsterman, as it is for all other units that have a natural melee attack.''		:''The first part(a) is a problem in the fix for the code to determine a unit's abilities in the first step of the AI process. The latter problem (b) is a bug in the original program. If a unit has a ranged weapon, the damage is set to the value of the weapon's melee attack and not the strength of the lobsterman, as it is for all other units that have a natural melee attack.''

			*Interception Crash
			TFTD latest version (with the 7.2 patch) crashed in Geoscape on the 1st Intercept (subs vs Alien craft). I had already had a tactical combat against a landed craft, but this did not involve an interception. I did notice that the Geoscape Graphs looked strange (faulty) prior to the interception and crash.
			Running windowed mode with most things switched on apart from the [ make defense missions harder ] mods. Geoscape and battlefield shortcuts switched [off].

			:''If this happens again, please include the error message as well.'' -[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 09:37, 2 June 2015 (EDT)

	=== Minor Bugs ===		=== Minor Bugs ===

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	:: Well, UFOextender never did that for me, only TFTDextender. Maybe it's due to using an earlier build?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:43, 25 August 2013 (EDT)		:: Well, UFOextender never did that for me, only TFTDextender. Maybe it's due to using an earlier build?--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 11:43, 25 August 2013 (EDT)
	''It's doesn't happen with UFO. I checked earlier versions and this has been present since the beginning. The command to create the process for the game is different from UFO and the flags don't seem to allow the extender shell window to close. I've tried a few things but either they have no effect or they lock the game as it boots up. Since it is a cosmetic issue and doesn't impact the gameplay, I'm not too concerned with it for now.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]])		''It's doesn't happen with UFO. I checked earlier versions and this has been present since the beginning. The command to create the process for the game is different from UFO and the flags don't seem to allow the extender shell window to close. I've tried a few things but either they have no effect or they lock the game as it boots up. Since it is a cosmetic issue and doesn't impact the gameplay, I'm not too concerned with it for now.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]])

	''I found the reason for the second window and have changed the code to prevent the second window from closing.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 06:58, 18 March 2016 (UTC)		''I found the reason for the second window and have changed the code to prevent the second window from closing.''-[[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 06:58, 18 March 2016 (UTC)