Talk:TFTD - Revision history

Ditto51: /* Laying the Table Out like that of the EU 1994 Table */ new section

2013-09-05T22:02:11Z

Laying the Table Out like that of the EU 1994 Table: new section

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	SHouldn't the scoring link go to its own page or at least the EU Equivilant--[[User:Ditto51\|Ditto51]] 04:46, 4 September 2013 (EDT)		SHouldn't the scoring link go to its own page or at least the EU Equivilant--[[User:Ditto51\|Ditto51]] 04:46, 4 September 2013 (EDT)

			== Laying the Table Out like that of the EU 1994 Table ==

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			The table for EU (1994) has a separate column for X-COM, the bases and exomnics and so on which was kept separate from the UFO Detection and Interception Pages.

			{{:EU Table}}
			{{:TFTD Table}}

			They just appear to be extremely different for two games that were virtually the same with the exception of TFTD being an extremely hard expansion like game. --[[User:Ditto51\|Ditto51]] 18:02, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

Ditto51: /* Scoring Link */ new section

2013-09-04T08:46:56Z

Scoring Link: new section

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	::: As for the template, check the [[Talk:Pistol]] page. Been yonks since I worked on it. Am also working on a similar version for the alien stats. I was hoping to make something simple, but the amount of variables that you need to plug in, and I'm not that hot with table formatting, makes the whole template rather unwieldy. Maybe several short templates would work better. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 05:42, 12 February 2010 (EST)		::: As for the template, check the [[Talk:Pistol]] page. Been yonks since I worked on it. Am also working on a similar version for the alien stats. I was hoping to make something simple, but the amount of variables that you need to plug in, and I'm not that hot with table formatting, makes the whole template rather unwieldy. Maybe several short templates would work better. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 05:42, 12 February 2010 (EST)

			== Scoring Link ==

			SHouldn't the scoring link go to its own page or at least the EU Equivilant--[[User:Ditto51\|Ditto51]] 04:46, 4 September 2013 (EDT)

NKF at 10:42, 12 February 2010

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	::* I think it's more "researched vs starting" weapons, not "alien vs human". TFTD also has separate entries for gauss ammo. I'm curious about the "universal description template", what do you refer to? [[User:Cesium\|Cesium]] 02:55, 12 February 2010 (EST)		::* I think it's more "researched vs starting" weapons, not "alien vs human". TFTD also has separate entries for gauss ammo. I'm curious about the "universal description template", what do you refer to? [[User:Cesium\|Cesium]] 02:55, 12 February 2010 (EST)

			::: In the early days, the comparisons were put directly into the main articles, but as we've added the analysis section and have since adopted taking a more neutral point of view for the factual articles, the comparisons are being phased out of the articles and move to the analysis section. We haven't quite caught them all I'm afraid.

			::: As for "researched vs starting" and "alien vs human", I guess that's true. Originally UFO didn't have separate ammo entries for its laser weapons (not having any to begin with!), so it was "human vs. alien". When TFTD introduced 3 extra items to make the ammo, they got separate ufopaedia entries and it became "researched vs. starting.".

			::: As for the template, check the [[Talk:Pistol]] page. Been yonks since I worked on it. Am also working on a similar version for the alien stats. I was hoping to make something simple, but the amount of variables that you need to plug in, and I'm not that hot with table formatting, makes the whole template rather unwieldy. Maybe several short templates would work better. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 05:42, 12 February 2010 (EST)

Cesium: /* Entry organization */

2010-02-12T07:55:27Z

Entry organization

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	:* Ufopedia is the official in-game description. Note the "e" instead of "ae". I don't mind it in particular, but there is some resistance to the use of "USO". It wasn't used in TFTD, and didn't really come into official terminology until Interceptor (I think in David Ellis' official strategy guide). As they are used in the game: Alien Submarine or Alien Sub would be the best way to describe the ships with the least amount of strife. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 02:19, 12 February 2010 (EST)		:* Ufopedia is the official in-game description. Note the "e" instead of "ae". I don't mind it in particular, but there is some resistance to the use of "USO". It wasn't used in TFTD, and didn't really come into official terminology until Interceptor (I think in David Ellis' official strategy guide). As they are used in the game: Alien Submarine or Alien Sub would be the best way to describe the ships with the least amount of strife. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 02:19, 12 February 2010 (EST)

			::* I'm referring to the text itself. e.g. [[Sonic Pistol]] has a comparison in the entry, while [[Heavy_Plasma_vs_Sonic_Cannon]] is a separate entry.

			::* I think it's more "researched vs starting" weapons, not "alien vs human". TFTD also has separate entries for gauss ammo. I'm curious about the "universal description template", what do you refer to? [[User:Cesium\|Cesium]] 02:55, 12 February 2010 (EST)

NKF at 07:19, 12 February 2010

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	* Where to put ammo information? Some ammo (Hydrojet etc.) are on the weapon entry, and some also have their own entry.. Maybe it's best to have the ammo entries redirect to the weapon entry and put all the info there?		* Where to put ammo information? Some ammo (Hydrojet etc.) are on the weapon entry, and some also have their own entry.. Maybe it's best to have the ammo entries redirect to the weapon entry and put all the info there?
	* UFOs or USOs? The game still refers to "UFOpedia", but I guess USO is more clear... [[User:Cesium\|Cesium]] 01:21, 12 February 2010 (EST)		* UFOs or USOs? The game still refers to "UFOpedia", but I guess USO is more clear... [[User:Cesium\|Cesium]] 01:21, 12 February 2010 (EST)


			: My take on those questions:

			:* Not entirely sure about that, though [[Weapon Analysis]] is a rather universal page for any form of weapon comparison between or within the first two games. Apocalypse got its own section since it can't be as easily compare as the first two stat for stat.

			:* As for the ammo - if we follow the in-game convention, human weapons have their ammo in the weapon ufopaedia entry, whereas the alien weapons have the ammo as a separate entry. There are two ways to go about it - we can put the ammo in separate pages or use redirects and combine them into a single page. Each method has its benefit, so I'll go with what's accepted by the majority. Having the ammo in separate pages would make it a lot easier to create a universal description template - I've been scratching my head on how to draft up a table that efficiently combines the ammo and weapon stats for ages now.

			:* Ufopedia is the official in-game description. Note the "e" instead of "ae". I don't mind it in particular, but there is some resistance to the use of "USO". It wasn't used in TFTD, and didn't really come into official terminology until Interceptor (I think in David Ellis' official strategy guide). As they are used in the game: Alien Submarine or Alien Sub would be the best way to describe the ships with the least amount of strife. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 02:19, 12 February 2010 (EST)

Cesium: Some questions re: UFOpedia organization of entries

2010-02-12T06:21:23Z

Some questions re: UFOpedia organization of entries

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=== Entry organization ===
* Where to put weapon comparisons? Some have their own pages, and some are in the entry for the TFTD weapon.
* Where to put ammo information? Some ammo (Hydrojet etc.) are on the weapon entry, and some also have their own entry.. Maybe it's best to have the ammo entries redirect to the weapon entry and put all the info there?
* UFOs or USOs? The game still refers to "UFOpedia", but I guess USO is more clear... [[User:Cesium|Cesium]] 01:21, 12 February 2010 (EST)