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Magic9mushroom: /* Pictures for level 2 */ new section

2020-04-22T06:57:07Z

Pictures for level 2: new section

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	The page currently states that you can get all your soldiers/displacers onto the lift if you position one of the displacers with its south or east half hanging off (as only the NW corner counts). However, the lift is in the very SE corner of the map, and the earth walls are indestructible even to DPL fire. This would seem to make it impossible to utilise that feature in the way described, unless you're using an exploit to move into walls. Is there something I'm missing here? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 16:57, 4 August 2018 (CEST)		The page currently states that you can get all your soldiers/displacers onto the lift if you position one of the displacers with its south or east half hanging off (as only the NW corner counts). However, the lift is in the very SE corner of the map, and the earth walls are indestructible even to DPL fire. This would seem to make it impossible to utilise that feature in the way described, unless you're using an exploit to move into walls. Is there something I'm missing here? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 16:57, 4 August 2018 (CEST)

			== Pictures for level 2 ==

			The pictures currently in use for level 2 are quite unhelpful, as many of the walls of the maze have been cut through with explosives and as such the full length of the intended path is not apparent.

			I have a save file in which I have hacked the entire map to be visible and well-lit on turn 1. However, I do not have the software to stitch 60-odd screenshots into a full picture. If anyone is willing to do this, I can email them the save files (or, indeed, a pile of screenshots). [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 06:57, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Magic9mushroom: /* Re: fitting onto the lift */ new section

2018-08-04T14:57:42Z

Re: fitting onto the lift: new section

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	I just want to take this time to mention that this mission is a tedious but ultimately painfully-easy conclusion to what's otherwise a nailbitingly-hard game. All the danger is on the first level, and the second and third levels are just stupidly-long mazes with pitifully few aliens and little path-branching to create any real ambush threat (not to mention that they're barely even 3-dimensional). Normal Colony Assaults are harder than this garbage. (And before you talk about the abundance of DPLs in T'Leth, that's actually a time-related issue. An Alien Colony Assault in September and onward will replace all sonic weaponry with DPLs, and if you can get to T'Leth before the end of August they'll have sonics.) [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 08:03, 30 March 2015 (EDT)		I just want to take this time to mention that this mission is a tedious but ultimately painfully-easy conclusion to what's otherwise a nailbitingly-hard game. All the danger is on the first level, and the second and third levels are just stupidly-long mazes with pitifully few aliens and little path-branching to create any real ambush threat (not to mention that they're barely even 3-dimensional). Normal Colony Assaults are harder than this garbage. (And before you talk about the abundance of DPLs in T'Leth, that's actually a time-related issue. An Alien Colony Assault in September and onward will replace all sonic weaponry with DPLs, and if you can get to T'Leth before the end of August they'll have sonics.) [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 08:03, 30 March 2015 (EDT)

			== Re: fitting onto the lift ==

			The page currently states that you can get all your soldiers/displacers onto the lift if you position one of the displacers with its south or east half hanging off (as only the NW corner counts). However, the lift is in the very SE corner of the map, and the earth walls are indestructible even to DPL fire. This would seem to make it impossible to utilise that feature in the way described, unless you're using an exploit to move into walls. Is there something I'm missing here? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 16:57, 4 August 2018 (CEST)

Magic9mushroom: /* Short cuts on T'Leth level 3? */

2015-03-30T12:05:50Z

Short cuts on T'Leth level 3?

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	OK, I answered my own question - DPLs do not penetrate walls on this level. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 04:37, 9 February 2011 (EST)		OK, I answered my own question - DPLs do not penetrate walls on this level. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 04:37, 9 February 2011 (EST)

	:Actually, DPLs can break some of the walls in T'Leth L3 (though IIRC it usually takes two hits. But any walls that could create a shortcut by being breached (ie, the walls to Cthulhu's chamber, and the one directly south of where you start) are indestructible. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 08:03, 30 March 2015 (EDT)		:Actually, DPLs can break some of the walls in T'Leth L3 (though IIRC it usually takes two hits). But any walls that could create a shortcut by being breached (ie, the walls to Cthulhu's chamber, and the one directly south of where you start) are indestructible. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 08:03, 30 March 2015 (EDT)

	== Letdown level ==		== Letdown level ==

	I just want to take this time to mention that this mission is a tedious but ultimately painfully-easy conclusion to what's otherwise a nailbitingly-hard game. All the danger is on the first level, and the second and third levels are just stupidly-long mazes with pitifully few aliens and little path-branching to create any real ambush threat (not to mention that they're barely even 3-dimensional). Normal Colony Assaults are harder than this garbage. (And before you talk about the abundance of DPLs in T'Leth, that's actually a time-related issue. An Alien Colony Assault in September and onward will replace all sonic weaponry with DPLs, and if you can get to T'Leth before the end of August they'll have sonics.) [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 08:03, 30 March 2015 (EDT)		I just want to take this time to mention that this mission is a tedious but ultimately painfully-easy conclusion to what's otherwise a nailbitingly-hard game. All the danger is on the first level, and the second and third levels are just stupidly-long mazes with pitifully few aliens and little path-branching to create any real ambush threat (not to mention that they're barely even 3-dimensional). Normal Colony Assaults are harder than this garbage. (And before you talk about the abundance of DPLs in T'Leth, that's actually a time-related issue. An Alien Colony Assault in September and onward will replace all sonic weaponry with DPLs, and if you can get to T'Leth before the end of August they'll have sonics.) [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 08:03, 30 March 2015 (EDT)

Magic9mushroom at 12:03, 30 March 2015

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	OK, I answered my own question - DPLs do not penetrate walls on this level. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 04:37, 9 February 2011 (EST)		OK, I answered my own question - DPLs do not penetrate walls on this level. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 04:37, 9 February 2011 (EST)

			:Actually, DPLs can break some of the walls in T'Leth L3 (though IIRC it usually takes two hits. But any walls that could create a shortcut by being breached (ie, the walls to Cthulhu's chamber, and the one directly south of where you start) are indestructible. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 08:03, 30 March 2015 (EDT)

			== Letdown level ==

			I just want to take this time to mention that this mission is a tedious but ultimately painfully-easy conclusion to what's otherwise a nailbitingly-hard game. All the danger is on the first level, and the second and third levels are just stupidly-long mazes with pitifully few aliens and little path-branching to create any real ambush threat (not to mention that they're barely even 3-dimensional). Normal Colony Assaults are harder than this garbage. (And before you talk about the abundance of DPLs in T'Leth, that's actually a time-related issue. An Alien Colony Assault in September and onward will replace all sonic weaponry with DPLs, and if you can get to T'Leth before the end of August they'll have sonics.) [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 08:03, 30 March 2015 (EDT)

4th Cuirassier: /* Finding the exit on Level 2 */

2011-02-09T09:38:23Z

Finding the exit on Level 2

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	:: I've searched the whole map and it's not there. Is this a first? [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 18:28, 7 February 2011 (EST)		:: I've searched the whole map and it's not there. Is this a first? [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 18:28, 7 February 2011 (EST)

	::: My bad - found it. There was a corner of the map that looked like it was outside the level, but when I looked at the next level, I found doors I hadn't seen, and there inside was the exit zone. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 08:41, 8 February 2011 (EST)		::: My bad - found it. There was a corner of the map that looked like it was outside the level, but when I looked at the next level, I found doors I hadn't seen, and there inside was the exit zone. It is bottom right with the exit rid on the lower level but access through double doors on the top level. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 08:41, 8 February 2011 (EST)

	== Short cuts on T'Leth level 3? ==		== Short cuts on T'Leth level 3? ==

4th Cuirassier: /* Short cuts on T'Leth level 3? */

2011-02-09T09:37:12Z

Short cuts on T'Leth level 3?

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	I played the final level last night for the first time since about 1996 and had forgotten how long a walk it is to the boss room. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 13:52, 8 February 2011 (EST)		I played the final level last night for the first time since about 1996 and had forgotten how long a walk it is to the boss room. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 13:52, 8 February 2011 (EST)

			OK, I answered my own question - DPLs do not penetrate walls on this level. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 04:37, 9 February 2011 (EST)

4th Cuirassier: /* Short cuts on T'Leth level 3? */ new section

2011-02-08T18:52:02Z

Short cuts on T'Leth level 3?: new section

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	::: My bad - found it. There was a corner of the map that looked like it was outside the level, but when I looked at the next level, I found doors I hadn't seen, and there inside was the exit zone. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 08:41, 8 February 2011 (EST)		::: My bad - found it. There was a corner of the map that looked like it was outside the level, but when I looked at the next level, I found doors I hadn't seen, and there inside was the exit zone. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 08:41, 8 February 2011 (EST)

			== Short cuts on T'Leth level 3? ==

			I notice that the alien sarcophagus chamber is immediately to the left of the starting grid on level three, separated by a wall. Is it possible to blow a hole through with DPLs and Displacers and cut straight to the final shootout?

			I played the final level last night for the first time since about 1996 and had forgotten how long a walk it is to the boss room. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 13:52, 8 February 2011 (EST)

4th Cuirassier: /* Finding the exit on Level 2 */

2011-02-08T13:41:52Z

Finding the exit on Level 2

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	: I have the memory from my last mission on T'leth (which was years ago) that the 2nd level exit appeared on one corner of the map. Again, been a long time and my memory might be tricking me. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 13:56, 7 February 2011 (EST)		: I have the memory from my last mission on T'leth (which was years ago) that the 2nd level exit appeared on one corner of the map. Again, been a long time and my memory might be tricking me. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 13:56, 7 February 2011 (EST)

	:: I've searched the whole map and it's not there. Is this a first?[[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 18:28, 7 February 2011 (EST)		:: I've searched the whole map and it's not there. Is this a first? [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 18:28, 7 February 2011 (EST)

			::: My bad - found it. There was a corner of the map that looked like it was outside the level, but when I looked at the next level, I found doors I hadn't seen, and there inside was the exit zone. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 08:41, 8 February 2011 (EST)

4th Cuirassier: /* Finding the exit on Level 2 */

2011-02-07T23:28:36Z

Finding the exit on Level 2

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	: I have the memory from my last mission on T'leth (which was years ago) that the 2nd level exit appeared on one corner of the map. Again, been a long time and my memory might be tricking me. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 13:56, 7 February 2011 (EST)		: I have the memory from my last mission on T'leth (which was years ago) that the 2nd level exit appeared on one corner of the map. Again, been a long time and my memory might be tricking me. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 13:56, 7 February 2011 (EST)

			:: I've searched the whole map and it's not there. Is this a first?[[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 18:28, 7 February 2011 (EST)

Hobbes: /* Finding the exit on Level 2 */

2011-02-07T18:56:08Z

Finding the exit on Level 2

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	:: Hmm, don't know how I'm missing that...must go back and scrutinise. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 06:45, 7 February 2011 (EST)		:: Hmm, don't know how I'm missing that...must go back and scrutinise. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 06:45, 7 February 2011 (EST)

			: I have the memory from my last mission on T'leth (which was years ago) that the 2nd level exit appeared on one corner of the map. Again, been a long time and my memory might be tricking me. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 13:56, 7 February 2011 (EST)

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	: I have the memory from my last mission on T'leth (which was years ago) that the 2nd level exit appeared on one corner of the map. Again, been a long time and my memory might be tricking me. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 13:56, 7 February 2011 (EST)		: I have the memory from my last mission on T'leth (which was years ago) that the 2nd level exit appeared on one corner of the map. Again, been a long time and my memory might be tricking me. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 13:56, 7 February 2011 (EST)

	:: I've searched the whole map and it's not there. Is this a first?[[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 18:28, 7 February 2011 (EST)		:: I've searched the whole map and it's not there. Is this a first? [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 18:28, 7 February 2011 (EST)

			::: My bad - found it. There was a corner of the map that looked like it was outside the level, but when I looked at the next level, I found doors I hadn't seen, and there inside was the exit zone. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 08:41, 8 February 2011 (EST)