Talk:Supply Ship Smash and Grab - Revision history

Ditto51: /* Combine with Base Farming Page */ new section

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Combine with Base Farming Page: new section

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	There is only one type of desert in the game files so it doesn't really matter what it looks like on the globe. You'll always get the same random selection of desert modules in a map. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 00:11, 10 September 2009 (EDT)		There is only one type of desert in the game files so it doesn't really matter what it looks like on the globe. You'll always get the same random selection of desert modules in a map. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 00:11, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
	:I really have to test this. I noticed 2 very different desert types - nearly flat and another with parallel ravines. There are no in-betweens. I '''think''' I checked and found out that it's the light colored desert and dark colored desert. I'll report back. [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 09:16, 10 September 2009 (EDT)		:I really have to test this. I noticed 2 very different desert types - nearly flat and another with parallel ravines. There are no in-betweens. I '''think''' I checked and found out that it's the light colored desert and dark colored desert. I'll report back. [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 09:16, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

			== Combine with [[Base Farming]] Page ==

			Do we really need two pages that describe the basic same tactic? My advice would be to combine the two. --[[User:Ditto51\|Ditto51]] 17:43, 5 September 2013 (EDT)

Ditto51: moved Talk:Supply ship smash and grab to Talk:Supply Ship Smash and Grab

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moved Talk:Supply ship smash and grab to Talk:Supply Ship Smash and Grab

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Zarn at 13:26, 10 September 2009

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	: It's not necessarily a bad thing as you do start getting really good at terrain with enough repetition! -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 01:34, 10 September 2009 (EDT)		: It's not necessarily a bad thing as you do start getting really good at terrain with enough repetition! -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 01:34, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

			:: My impression is that leveling farm terrain is much easier then careful (and slow!) sweep, so this is the advice I included. The whole idea of smash'n'grab, I think, is to answer the critical problem of elerium shortage, which substantially slow down game development. I believe this is not the scenario for skill and finesse. There will be plenty of battles for that... As for tactical advice - where else would tactical advice for smash'n'grab fit? The tactical section may be pasted into proper article and linked, if that's important [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 09:26, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
	== Terrain types ==		== Terrain types ==

	There is only one type of desert in the game files so it doesn't really matter what it looks like on the globe. You'll always get the same random selection of desert modules in a map. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 00:11, 10 September 2009 (EDT)		There is only one type of desert in the game files so it doesn't really matter what it looks like on the globe. You'll always get the same random selection of desert modules in a map. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 00:11, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
	:I really have to test this. I noticed 2 very different desert types - nearly flat and another with parallel ravines. There are no in-betweens. I '''think''' I checked and found out that it's the light colored desert and dark colored desert. I'll report back. [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 09:16, 10 September 2009 (EDT)		:I really have to test this. I noticed 2 very different desert types - nearly flat and another with parallel ravines. There are no in-betweens. I '''think''' I checked and found out that it's the light colored desert and dark colored desert. I'll report back. [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 09:16, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

Zarn: /* Terrain types */

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Terrain types

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	There is only one type of desert in the game files so it doesn't really matter what it looks like on the globe. You'll always get the same random selection of desert modules in a map. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 00:11, 10 September 2009 (EDT)		There is only one type of desert in the game files so it doesn't really matter what it looks like on the globe. You'll always get the same random selection of desert modules in a map. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 00:11, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
			:I really have to test this. I noticed 2 very different desert types - nearly flat and another with parallel ravines. There are no in-betweens. I '''think''' I checked and found out that it's the light colored desert and dark colored desert. I'll report back. [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 09:16, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

NKF: A world steamrolled....

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A world steamrolled....

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	And would you PLEASE stop giving suggestions to "flatten the battlefield" when this is absolutely unnecessary and isn't really relevant to the article at all? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] 21:29, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		And would you PLEASE stop giving suggestions to "flatten the battlefield" when this is absolutely unnecessary and isn't really relevant to the article at all? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] 21:29, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

			: Main reason to flatten the battlefield is to make it easier to clear the map so that you can concentrate on the UFO - it's easy to employ the sniper/scout strategy on them. Alas, the alien base is going to be the one that dictates the terrain you end up fighting in - not counting the ones you shoot down.

			: It's not necessarily a bad thing as you do start getting really good at terrain with enough repetition! -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 01:34, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

	== Terrain types ==		== Terrain types ==

	There is only one type of desert in the game files so it doesn't really matter what it looks like on the globe. You'll always get the same random selection of desert modules in a map. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 00:11, 10 September 2009 (EDT)		There is only one type of desert in the game files so it doesn't really matter what it looks like on the globe. You'll always get the same random selection of desert modules in a map. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 00:11, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

Zombie: New section: Terrain types

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New section: Terrain types

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	And would you PLEASE stop giving suggestions to "flatten the battlefield" when this is absolutely unnecessary and isn't really relevant to the article at all? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] 21:29, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		And would you PLEASE stop giving suggestions to "flatten the battlefield" when this is absolutely unnecessary and isn't really relevant to the article at all? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] 21:29, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

			== Terrain types ==

			There is only one type of desert in the game files so it doesn't really matter what it looks like on the globe. You'll always get the same random selection of desert modules in a map. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 00:11, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

Magic9mushroom at 01:29, 10 September 2009

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	:::Apart from a reference to it in the Lucky Star anime I saw recently, I'm not sure what chanspeak is but if it's anything like txt language used in instant messaging, then yet its use would be discouraged (regardless of our personal opinions). Either way, I'd rather not see everyone getting upset over a trivial matter. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 09:24, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		:::Apart from a reference to it in the Lucky Star anime I saw recently, I'm not sure what chanspeak is but if it's anything like txt language used in instant messaging, then yet its use would be discouraged (regardless of our personal opinions). Either way, I'd rather not see everyone getting upset over a trivial matter. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 09:24, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
	:::: Don't worry. It's just a quirk. If you wish to know chanspeak get yourself in the murky waters of the various chans. [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Category:4chan this] is probably a good place to start. Don't blame me if it goes wrong.. listen to the bunny [image:http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/d/d8/4chanbunny.jpg] [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 16:11, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		:::: Don't worry. It's just a quirk. If you wish to know chanspeak get yourself in the murky waters of the various chans. [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Category:4chan this] is probably a good place to start. Don't blame me if it goes wrong.. listen to the bunny [image:http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/d/d8/4chanbunny.jpg] [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 16:11, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

			Dude, we don't really care about the chans. All I'm asking is that you converse in normal English instead of using stupid spelling errors on purpose. It achieves nothing to do so.

			And seriously, the 2nd floor isn't a problem, even on superhuman. Just remember to look around a lot.

			And would you PLEASE stop giving suggestions to "flatten the battlefield" when this is absolutely unnecessary and isn't really relevant to the article at all? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] 21:29, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

Zarn at 20:11, 9 September 2009

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	:::Apart from a reference to it in the Lucky Star anime I saw recently, I'm not sure what chanspeak is but if it's anything like txt language used in instant messaging, then yet its use would be discouraged (regardless of our personal opinions). Either way, I'd rather not see everyone getting upset over a trivial matter. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 09:24, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		:::Apart from a reference to it in the Lucky Star anime I saw recently, I'm not sure what chanspeak is but if it's anything like txt language used in instant messaging, then yet its use would be discouraged (regardless of our personal opinions). Either way, I'd rather not see everyone getting upset over a trivial matter. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 09:24, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
			:::: Don't worry. It's just a quirk. If you wish to know chanspeak get yourself in the murky waters of the various chans. [http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Category:4chan this] is probably a good place to start. Don't blame me if it goes wrong.. listen to the bunny [image:http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/d/d8/4chanbunny.jpg] [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 16:11, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

NKF at 13:24, 9 September 2009

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	::In the 2nd gloor they have several zillions places to hide. Damn.		::In the 2nd gloor they have several zillions places to hide. Damn.
	::btw, do people here hate chanspeak? Shame, I really like it for the punchline. [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 06:48, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		::btw, do people here hate chanspeak? Shame, I really like it for the punchline. [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 06:48, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

			:::Ah, the second level. Definitely more room for ambush but another good place where a bit of patience works wonders. The second level occupants do eventually wander towards the lifts if given time. It's also a good opportunity to station someone in the engine room with a motion scanner and put it to work.

			:::Apart from a reference to it in the Lucky Star anime I saw recently, I'm not sure what chanspeak is but if it's anything like txt language used in instant messaging, then yet its use would be discouraged (regardless of our personal opinions). Either way, I'd rather not see everyone getting upset over a trivial matter. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 09:24, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

Zarn at 10:48, 9 September 2009

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	: The third level is probably the most hazardous location to attack, but using area effect weapons around corners (particularly near the bends leading towards the bridge) can deal with any potential surprises. A Heavy Plasma is valuable for making a rear entrance into the bridge, which is much safer than trying the front door. I generally do this just to toss a high explosive in. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 01:30, 9 September 2009 (EDT)		: The third level is probably the most hazardous location to attack, but using area effect weapons around corners (particularly near the bends leading towards the bridge) can deal with any potential surprises. A Heavy Plasma is valuable for making a rear entrance into the bridge, which is much safer than trying the front door. I generally do this just to toss a high explosive in. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 01:30, 9 September 2009 (EDT)
			:: The upper floor presented no big troubles after I knew mt way around, mainly because in most missions the upper level aliens are very predictable: One goes down to check what is this suspicious noise. Two or three hand in from and in the bridge. Usually they don't wander around. I leave proximity grenade one tile away from the entrance of the other route and bomb with rockets/grenades the west wall.
			::Rarely they did something surprising - like an ambush righ behind the elevator door. But usually this was easy.
			::In the 2nd gloor they have several zillions places to hide. Damn.
			::btw, do people here hate chanspeak? Shame, I really like it for the punchline. [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 06:48, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

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	: It's not necessarily a bad thing as you do start getting really good at terrain with enough repetition! -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 01:34, 10 September 2009 (EDT)		: It's not necessarily a bad thing as you do start getting really good at terrain with enough repetition! -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 01:34, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

			:: My impression is that leveling farm terrain is much easier then careful (and slow!) sweep, so this is the advice I included. The whole idea of smash'n'grab, I think, is to answer the critical problem of elerium shortage, which substantially slow down game development. I believe this is not the scenario for skill and finesse. There will be plenty of battles for that... As for tactical advice - where else would tactical advice for smash'n'grab fit? The tactical section may be pasted into proper article and linked, if that's important [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 09:26, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
	== Terrain types ==		== Terrain types ==

	There is only one type of desert in the game files so it doesn't really matter what it looks like on the globe. You'll always get the same random selection of desert modules in a map. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 00:11, 10 September 2009 (EDT)		There is only one type of desert in the game files so it doesn't really matter what it looks like on the globe. You'll always get the same random selection of desert modules in a map. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 00:11, 10 September 2009 (EDT)
	:I really have to test this. I noticed 2 very different desert types - nearly flat and another with parallel ravines. There are no in-betweens. I '''think''' I checked and found out that it's the light colored desert and dark colored desert. I'll report back. [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 09:16, 10 September 2009 (EDT)		:I really have to test this. I noticed 2 very different desert types - nearly flat and another with parallel ravines. There are no in-betweens. I '''think''' I checked and found out that it's the light colored desert and dark colored desert. I'll report back. [[User:Zarn\|Zarn]] 09:16, 10 September 2009 (EDT)