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AShugg: Updating the "StrategyCore" section

2025-01-20T20:17:55Z

Updating the "StrategyCore" section

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	[[User:AShugg\|AShugg]] ([[User talk:AShugg\|talk]]) 11:18, 7 January 2025 (UTC)		[[User:AShugg\|AShugg]] ([[User talk:AShugg\|talk]]) 11:18, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

			:Potentially answering my own question (while spawning another), the reference may be to strategycore.co.uk, where various forums are hosted. If that's right, the next question is, did the _information_ come from strategycore.co.uk, or the V1.4 DOS release of XCom 1 come from there? The latter would seem unlikely, but that's the problem with this ambiguous statement. [[User:AShugg\|AShugg]] ([[User talk:AShugg\|talk]]) 20:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

AShugg: Query the "StrategyCore" text on page

2025-01-07T11:18:19Z

Query the "StrategyCore" text on page

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	No idea about the tech tree situation, in the circumstances. I am minded to go back and restart the campaign with a whole new approach - this level of difficulty seems to call for one. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 05:54, 11 January 2011 (EST)		No idea about the tech tree situation, in the circumstances. I am minded to go back and restart the campaign with a whole new approach - this level of difficulty seems to call for one. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 05:54, 11 January 2011 (EST)

			== StrategyCore ==

			Does anyone know the origin or background for the following line in this page?

			XCom 1 (UFO Defense / Enemy Unknown) is the DOS 1.4 version, from strategycore.com.

			I don't know what strategycore used to be, but that web address now belongs to StrategyCore K.K., a technology solutions provider in Japan.

			[[User:AShugg\|AShugg]] ([[User talk:AShugg\|talk]]) 11:18, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

4th Cuirassier: /* Some bugs fixed in Steam? */ new section

2011-01-11T10:54:02Z

Some bugs fixed in Steam?: new section

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	That's all I can think of offhand, I'll test these later today. A link to the Geoscape.exe page where there's some talk about this version (as it's occasionally referred to as the Geoscape.exe version I think) could be handy, unless anyone has a problem with that I'll add one in the see also section later. Still bugged wrt skill levels; no bugs from psi skill gain.		That's all I can think of offhand, I'll test these later today. A link to the Geoscape.exe page where there's some talk about this version (as it's occasionally referred to as the Geoscape.exe version I think) could be handy, unless anyone has a problem with that I'll add one in the see also section later. Still bugged wrt skill levels; no bugs from psi skill gain.

			== Some bugs fixed in Steam? ==

			I'm playing the Steam version on Superhuman level and it looks very like I'm about to lose the campaign in March. After 4 interceptions in January I achieved none in the next 2 months (very few subs spotted and all got away; only actions were two terror missions, in the same place, at month-end).

			This looks very much like the difficulty level has been patched in the Steam version, because this is unlike any previous TFTD experience.

			No idea about the tech tree situation, in the circumstances. I am minded to go back and restart the campaign with a whole new approach - this level of difficulty seems to call for one. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 05:54, 11 January 2011 (EST)

Draco Cracona: /* Steam Talk */

2009-05-20T11:28:38Z

Steam Talk

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	To test:		To test:
	~~MC/psi skills going up; difficulty in UFO (although I'm pretty sure that's not fixed, easy to do - just count the aliens on a landed ship or use Psi);~~ TFTD mag. nav research; deep one bug; MC reader research, sub construction research.		TFTD mag. nav research; deep one bug; MC reader research, sub construction research.

	That's all I can think of offhand, I'll test these later today. A link to the Geoscape.exe page where there's some talk about this version (as it's occasionally referred to as the Geoscape.exe version I think) could be handy, unless anyone has a problem with that I'll add one in the see also section later.		That's all I can think of offhand, I'll test these later today. A link to the Geoscape.exe page where there's some talk about this version (as it's occasionally referred to as the Geoscape.exe version I think) could be handy, unless anyone has a problem with that I'll add one in the see also section later. Still bugged wrt skill levels; no bugs from psi skill gain.

Draco Cracona: /* Steam Talk */

2009-05-20T07:30:11Z

Steam Talk

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	::Thanks for the tip, will do. [[User:NightChime\|NightChime]] 17:25, 28 January 2009 (CST)		::Thanks for the tip, will do. [[User:NightChime\|NightChime]] 17:25, 28 January 2009 (CST)

			To test:
			MC/psi skills going up; difficulty in UFO (although I'm pretty sure that's not fixed, easy to do - just count the aliens on a landed ship or use Psi); TFTD mag. nav research; deep one bug; MC reader research, sub construction research.

			That's all I can think of offhand, I'll test these later today. A link to the Geoscape.exe page where there's some talk about this version (as it's occasionally referred to as the Geoscape.exe version I think) could be handy, unless anyone has a problem with that I'll add one in the see also section later.

NightChime at 23:25, 28 January 2009

2009-01-28T23:25:00Z

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	:You don't really need to look under the hood to find out what difficulty level you are at. If you have a Mind Probe or Psi-Amp, check the stats of an alien and compare that to the tables in my [http://www.strategycore.co.uk/xcom/pg/ufoalienstats#ufostats2 Alien Stats] page at StrategyCore. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 20:14, 20 January 2009 (CST)		:You don't really need to look under the hood to find out what difficulty level you are at. If you have a Mind Probe or Psi-Amp, check the stats of an alien and compare that to the tables in my [http://www.strategycore.co.uk/xcom/pg/ufoalienstats#ufostats2 Alien Stats] page at StrategyCore. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 20:14, 20 January 2009 (CST)

			::Thanks for the tip, will do. [[User:NightChime\|NightChime]] 17:25, 28 January 2009 (CST)

Zombie: /* Steam Talk */ Note about difficulty level without looking at the game files.

2009-01-21T02:14:05Z

Steam Talk: Note about difficulty level without looking at the game files.

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	::Spike, I think you were looking for [[Where to Get the Games]], and I agree that listing all known mods there would be advantageous. Personally, I think there should also be an article investigating what changes, if any, were brought to the game with 2K's release. In particular, does the difficulty stay at what you chose, now? It seems to, but it's hard to know without looking under the hood. I do know that they didn't make proximity grenades remember being armed after loading a save. [[User:NightChime\|NightChime]] 19:41, 20 January 2009 (CST)		::Spike, I think you were looking for [[Where to Get the Games]], and I agree that listing all known mods there would be advantageous. Personally, I think there should also be an article investigating what changes, if any, were brought to the game with 2K's release. In particular, does the difficulty stay at what you chose, now? It seems to, but it's hard to know without looking under the hood. I do know that they didn't make proximity grenades remember being armed after loading a save. [[User:NightChime\|NightChime]] 19:41, 20 January 2009 (CST)

			:You don't really need to look under the hood to find out what difficulty level you are at. If you have a Mind Probe or Psi-Amp, check the stats of an alien and compare that to the tables in my [http://www.strategycore.co.uk/xcom/pg/ufoalienstats#ufostats2 Alien Stats] page at StrategyCore. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 20:14, 20 January 2009 (CST)

NightChime: /* Steam Talk */

2009-01-21T01:41:37Z

Steam Talk

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	:Anyway I'm going to start contributing to the TFTD wiki items and also adding notes about any more Steam specifics. [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 03:01, 2 October 2008 (CDT)		:Anyway I'm going to start contributing to the TFTD wiki items and also adding notes about any more Steam specifics. [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 03:01, 2 October 2008 (CDT)

			::Spike, I think you were looking for [[Where to Get the Games]], and I agree that listing all known mods there would be advantageous. Personally, I think there should also be an article investigating what changes, if any, were brought to the game with 2K's release. In particular, does the difficulty stay at what you chose, now? It seems to, but it's hard to know without looking under the hood. I do know that they didn't make proximity grenades remember being armed after loading a save. [[User:NightChime\|NightChime]] 19:41, 20 January 2009 (CST)

Spike: Moved discussions to new Talk page

2008-10-02T19:20:34Z

Moved discussions to new Talk page

New page

==Steam Talk==
Probably we should create a new page for Steam on this wiki. Also, we could even get support from Valve now and start adding mods onto steam. This would help tremendously, but might remove the original purpose of the game. It will turn it into a easier game, with super heavy lasers (no offense Seb) and the like. This would increase X-COM's rep, but lower its individuality. Still, this is a decision for the Admins to make, certainly not us.

:I agree we should have a Steam page now but I'm not sure where to put it. Is there a "distributions" or "where to get it?" section? I couldn't find one. It would be good to make all the mods available on Steam. By the way I don't agree the mods make the game easier. Generally they just remove bugs, restore game balance, and improve playability. Seb76 is very aware his Heavy Laser mod is unbalancing, that's why he has kept it in a separate "development" version of his loader.

:I've been playing TFTD for a few days using the Steam version. To my surprise, TFTD Hack and XComUtil command line both work, once you find the game save files which are under "common" in the Steam install directory. They don't seem to be protected by Steam "anti-cheat", fortunately. I'm not sure if any mods that change the executable will work, however - haven't tried that yet.

:It's been quite interesting to play TFTD for the first time, unmodded, bugs and all. I suggest that only bugfix-type mods should be distributed with Steam, the tools and cheats should probably stay on this site and others. Also, I think the discussions would need to be with Take Two /2K, as they are the releasers of the games - Valve's Steam is just a channel in this case.

:Anyway I'm going to start contributing to the TFTD wiki items and also adding notes about any more Steam specifics. [[User:Spike|Spike]] 03:01, 2 October 2008 (CDT)