Talk:Soldier Name Stats - Revision history

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	Are the soldier name pools identical in UFO and TFTD? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 20:37, 10 March 2016 (EST)		Are the soldier name pools identical in UFO and TFTD? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 20:37, 10 March 2016 (EST)

			: They're different. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] ([[User talk:NKF\|talk]]) 23:24, 10 March 2016 (EST)


			'''First names'''


			British (0-19)
			: Stephen, Martin, Guy, Stuart, Nick,
			: Andrew, Bill, Edward, Terry, Tim,
			: Drew, Paul, Matthew, Greg, Bob,
			: Amanda, Annette, Charlie, Donna, Melanie

			American(20-39)
			: Mickey, Quentin, Tom, Mark, Max,
			: Carl, Samuel, Scott, Conner, Ted,
			: Virgil, Richard, Spencer, Guido, Jason,
			: Malory, Uma, Claire, Tracey, Rachel

			Russian(40-59)
			: Sergei, Boris, Vladimir, Victor, Gennadi,
			: Krug, Stanil, Orski, Igor, Yuri,
			: Andrei, Nikolai, Dmitriy, Grigoriy, Ivan,
			: Lyudmila, Olga, Tatyana, Galina, Astra

			Spanish(60-79)
			: Miguel, Juan, Javier, Alfredo, Jaime,
			: Franco, Carlos, Manuel, Rodreigo, Edwardo,
			: Marti, Phillipe, Emilio, Jose, Danni,
			: Estella, Maria, Rosa, Deborah, Lisa

			German(80-99)
			: Hans, Otto, Manfred, Klaus, Dieter,
			: Wolfgang, Matthias, Gunter, Werner, Gerhard,
			: Siegfried, Rudi, Jurgen, Stefan, Franz,
			: Uta, Gudrun, Christel, Karin, Helga

			France(100-119)
			: Henri, Jacques, Rene, Jean, Gaston,
			: Gerard, Louis, Marcel, Leon, Pierre,
			: Bernard, Marc, Claude, Armand, Emile,
			: Micheline, Sylvie, Arlette, Colette, Jacqueline



			'''Surnames'''


			British (0-19)
			:Goss, Severn, Jeffries, Cook, Whyte,
			:Smillie, Bell, Thompson, Barna, Garnier,
			:Greer, Roberts, Northcott, Truss, Knott,
			:Lemarchand, Broomhall, Parton, Shill, Ayliffe

			American (20-39)
			:Tarantino, Chaney, Kemp, Carr, Remmington,
			:Spanburg, Moreland, Hieke, Hand, Johnston,
			:Scotney, Knox, Morris, Curtis, Conway,
			:Talbot, Harrison, Smith, King, McLoud

			Russian (40-59)
			:Lucketski, Pavlov, Donski, Bakeovich, Chipov,
			:Mannski, Korkia, Moschievs, Dudeski, Partonov,
			:Broomski, Gakanovitch, Samsenko, Kurkenko, Yakubik,
			:Alkaviades, Curiarkin, Andianov, Vostokski, Bulakov

			Spanish (60-79)
			:Centeno, Torres, Quevedo, Marques, Aguila,
			:Vasquez, Alcala, Velasquez, Marillo, Martinez,
			:Gonzales, Pantenella, Hernandez, Mescal, Estavez,
			:Escobar, Carlos, Ramirez, Bonal, Cuervo

			German (80-99)
			:Steinbach, Mederow, Meyer, Ulbricht, Berger,
			:Faerber, Gunkel, Krause, Keller, Brehme,
			:Vogel, Hafner, Schultz, Richter, Esser,
			:Zander, Seidler, Unger, Geisler, Heinsch

			French(100-119)
			:Dujardin, Cuvelier, Gressier, Lecointe, Gautier,
			:Bouissou, Marcelle, Bouton, Lefevre, Laroyenne,
			:Dreyfus, Dagallier, Guerin, Pecheux, Buchard,
			:Collignon, Revenu, Coicaud, Gaudin, Luget

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	::Hi KayDekker, I originally wrote the page and just figured "it's a British game", shrug. I'm American and I guess it takes someone else to see oneself clearly, eh? Though to be honest, some of the American ones are pretty rare to me... Sigourney Weaver is the only Sigourney I've ever known. Anyway, thanks! -[[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 15:21, 2 September 2012 (EDT)		::Hi KayDekker, I originally wrote the page and just figured "it's a British game", shrug. I'm American and I guess it takes someone else to see oneself clearly, eh? Though to be honest, some of the American ones are pretty rare to me... Sigourney Weaver is the only Sigourney I've ever known. Anyway, thanks! -[[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 15:21, 2 September 2012 (EDT)

			== TFTD ==

			Are the soldier name pools identical in UFO and TFTD? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 20:37, 10 March 2016 (EST)

MikeTheRed: Rewrote soldier name page - put notes on this Talk page

2012-09-02T19:21:02Z

Rewrote soldier name page - put notes on this Talk page

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			== Page rewritten to remove duplicates ==

			In my original version of the Soldier Name Stats page, I included testing results and speculation about duplicate names. Since then, Zaimoni made an excellent observation (see next) and Sowelu and especially Seb76 nailed down how duplicates work. Therefore I rewrote (and greatly simplified!) the page; to see the old page and Sowelu and Seb76's notes, see [http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Soldier_Name_Stats&oldid=35987 this].

			Good work, all! -[[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 15:21, 2 September 2012 (EDT)

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	Even one data set having no duplicates would be strong evidence of deduplication, but twenty?		Even one data set having no duplicates would be strong evidence of deduplication, but twenty?

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	:I'd have to agree with you there KayDekker. It would seem strange that there wouldn't be an American set of names as that is the largest funding country of all.--[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 14:37, 30 April 2008 (PDT)		:I'd have to agree with you there KayDekker. It would seem strange that there wouldn't be an American set of names as that is the largest funding country of all.--[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 14:37, 30 April 2008 (PDT)

			::Hi KayDekker, I originally wrote the page and just figured "it's a British game", shrug. I'm American and I guess it takes someone else to see oneself clearly, eh? Though to be honest, some of the American ones are pretty rare to me... Sigourney Weaver is the only Sigourney I've ever known. Anyway, thanks! -[[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 15:21, 2 September 2012 (EDT)

Zombie at 21:37, 30 April 2008

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	--[[User:KayDekker\|KayDekker]] 06:18, 30 April 2008 (PDT)		--[[User:KayDekker\|KayDekker]] 06:18, 30 April 2008 (PDT)

			:I'd have to agree with you there KayDekker. It would seem strange that there wouldn't be an American set of names as that is the largest funding country of all.--[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 14:37, 30 April 2008 (PDT)

KayDekker: Suggestion that name set 2 is American, not British

2008-04-30T13:18:08Z

Suggestion that name set 2 is American, not British

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	--- [[User:Zaimoni\|Zaimoni]] 6:59 July 22, 2006 (CDT)		--- [[User:Zaimoni\|Zaimoni]] 6:59 July 22, 2006 (CDT)

			== American, not British... ==
			I hate to be contentious, but I'd venture to dispute the notion that there are two "British" name sets. Set one would produce quite unexceptional (and unexceptionable) British names, but the second? No. Set two looks to my British eyes distinctly American. Of the forenames, Barbara, Carl, Catherine, Donald, Ed, Evelyn, Kevin, Mark, Patricia, Samuel and Tom are not unusual British forenames (Carl less so than the others; Samuel would more often be just Sam, and Evelyn IMHO would belong to my parents' generation, not mine); nobody who isn't upper-class AND elderly would be likely to be named Austin or Clarence; Calvin, Dwight, Lester, Oscar, Sigourney, Spencer and Virgil simply scream <s>"Alien!"</s> "American!" at me.

			--[[User:KayDekker\|KayDekker]] 06:18, 30 April 2008 (PDT)

Zaimoni at 12:00, 22 July 2006

2006-07-22T12:00:11Z

New page

Even one data set having no duplicates would be strong evidence of deduplication, but twenty?

For a batch of 100, the theoretical probability that no name is duplicated in a batch, where the names are purely chosen randomly, is the series product<table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" align="center">
<tr><td align="center"><big>Π</big><br><small>k=1100..1199</small></td><td align="center">k<br><font style="text-decoration: overline">1200</font></td></tr>
</table>Numerically (putting this into a spreadsheet), this comes out to ~0.013154 . We have five significant digits even if the spreadsheet used typical C floats. [Lose two compared to base type because of the 199 multiplications and divisions done, but typical C floats have 7 significant digits.]

This does complicate testing whether the six name categories are being selected in a way compatible with a good random number generator. The deduplication means the Χ² test is not directly applicable.

--- [[User:Zaimoni|Zaimoni]] 6:59 July 22, 2006 (CDT)