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Pepoluan: /* SCOPE Crit and Pistol 1 */

2018-12-23T02:50:09Z

SCOPE Crit and Pistol 1

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	These stack. 20% for Pistol I, 10% for the Assault's Aggression, and 10% for SCOPE, (total of 40%) although, as established elsewhere, the SCOPE crit bonus is not specifically itemized on the crit bonus list. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 11:12, 7 December 2012 (EST)		These stack. 20% for Pistol I, 10% for the Assault's Aggression, and 10% for SCOPE, (total of 40%) although, as established elsewhere, the SCOPE crit bonus is not specifically itemized on the crit bonus list. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 11:12, 7 December 2012 (EST)

			:20% + 10% = ... 40%??? Ahaha, I see :D [[User:Pepoluan\|Pepoluan]] ([[User talk:Pepoluan\|talk]]) 03:50, 23 December 2018 (CET)

	== SCOPE Critical chance and SquadSight (EW) ==		== SCOPE Critical chance and SquadSight (EW) ==

DracoGriffin: Undo revision 52605 by DracoGriffin (talk)

2013-11-20T23:39:12Z

Undo revision 52605 by DracoGriffin (talk)

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	Do you still get the critical bonus when using SquadSight in EW--[[User:Ditto51\|Ditto51]] 17:32, 20 November 2013 (EST)		Do you still get the critical bonus when using SquadSight in EW--[[User:Ditto51\|Ditto51]] 17:32, 20 November 2013 (EST)
			:The new EW text says: "Allows firing at targets in any ally's sight radius, but these targets cannot be critically hit unless using Headshot."
			So, logically you'd still get the SCOPE crit bonus when you're usually Squad Sight. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 18:25, 20 November 2013 (EST)
	::Technically yes, but if your Squad Sight Sniper is not using Headshot for out of range enemies, the game matches your crit chance with equal negative score. S.C.O.P.E does now appear under Chance to Crit in Info Pane but the Squadsight penalty includes any modifiers that are bonus to crit chance. So, Plasma Sniper Rifle gives 35% and S.C.O.P.E gives 10% but Squadsight penalty will jump from -35% to -45%.--[[User:DracoGriffin\|DracoGriffin]] 18:37, 20 November 2013 (EST)		::Technically yes, but if your Squad Sight Sniper is not using Headshot for out of range enemies, the game matches your crit chance with equal negative score. S.C.O.P.E does now appear under Chance to Crit in Info Pane but the Squadsight penalty includes any modifiers that are bonus to crit chance. So, Plasma Sniper Rifle gives 35% and S.C.O.P.E gives 10% but Squadsight penalty will jump from -35% to -45%.--[[User:DracoGriffin\|DracoGriffin]] 18:37, 20 November 2013 (EST)

DracoGriffin: Yes but no

2013-11-20T23:37:50Z

Yes but no

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	Do you still get the critical bonus when using SquadSight in EW--[[User:Ditto51\|Ditto51]] 17:32, 20 November 2013 (EST)		Do you still get the critical bonus when using SquadSight in EW--[[User:Ditto51\|Ditto51]] 17:32, 20 November 2013 (EST)
	:~~The new EW text says~~: ~~"Allows firing at targets in any ally's sight radius~~, but ~~these targets cannot be critically hit unless~~ using Headshot."		::Technically yes, but if your Squad Sight Sniper is not using Headshot for out of range enemies, the game matches your crit chance with equal negative score. S.C.O.P.E does now appear under Chance to Crit in Info Pane but the Squadsight penalty includes any modifiers that are bonus to crit chance. So, Plasma Sniper Rifle gives 35% and S.C.O.P.E gives 10% but Squadsight penalty will jump from -35% to -45%.--[[User:DracoGriffin\|DracoGriffin]] 18:37, 20 November 2013 (EST)
	So, ~~logically you'd still get~~ the ~~SCOPE~~ crit bonus ~~when you're usually Squad Sight~~. [[User:~~Hobbes~~\|~~Hobbes~~]] 18:25, 20 November 2013 (EST)

Hobbes: /* SCOPE Critical chance and SquadSight (EW) */

2013-11-20T23:25:10Z

SCOPE Critical chance and SquadSight (EW)

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	Do you still get the critical bonus when using SquadSight in EW--[[User:Ditto51\|Ditto51]] 17:32, 20 November 2013 (EST)		Do you still get the critical bonus when using SquadSight in EW--[[User:Ditto51\|Ditto51]] 17:32, 20 November 2013 (EST)
			:The new EW text says: "Allows firing at targets in any ally's sight radius, but these targets cannot be critically hit unless using Headshot."
			So, logically you'd still get the SCOPE crit bonus when you're usually Squad Sight. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 18:25, 20 November 2013 (EST)

Ditto51: /* SCOPE Critical chance and SquadSight (EW) */ new section

2013-11-20T22:32:49Z

SCOPE Critical chance and SquadSight (EW): new section

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	These stack. 20% for Pistol I, 10% for the Assault's Aggression, and 10% for SCOPE, (total of 40%) although, as established elsewhere, the SCOPE crit bonus is not specifically itemized on the crit bonus list. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 11:12, 7 December 2012 (EST)		These stack. 20% for Pistol I, 10% for the Assault's Aggression, and 10% for SCOPE, (total of 40%) although, as established elsewhere, the SCOPE crit bonus is not specifically itemized on the crit bonus list. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 11:12, 7 December 2012 (EST)

			== SCOPE Critical chance and SquadSight (EW) ==

			Do you still get the critical bonus when using SquadSight in EW--[[User:Ditto51\|Ditto51]] 17:32, 20 November 2013 (EST)

Arrow Quivershaft: Why does everyone think SCOPE critical bonus doesn't exist?

2012-12-07T16:12:23Z

Why does everyone think SCOPE critical bonus doesn't exist?

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	Anybody like "Small Computerized Optical Precision Enhancer"? [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 01:10, 29 October 2012 (EDT)		Anybody like "Small Computerized Optical Precision Enhancer"? [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 01:10, 29 October 2012 (EDT)

			==SCOPE Crit and Pistol 1==

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			These stack. 20% for Pistol I, 10% for the Assault's Aggression, and 10% for SCOPE, (total of 40%) although, as established elsewhere, the SCOPE crit bonus is not specifically itemized on the crit bonus list. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 11:12, 7 December 2012 (EST)

Luge at 08:03, 29 October 2012

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	Changed some of the advice given. You do not want to put S.C.O.P.E.S. on everybody in the early game. Grenades are what will let you deal with Sectoids at higher difficulty levels.		Changed some of the advice given. You do not want to put S.C.O.P.E.S. on everybody in the early game. Grenades are what will let you deal with Sectoids at higher difficulty levels.

			I would say that S.C.O.P.E.s are most useful on Heavies, to compensate for their poor accuracy (the lowest of all the soldiers classes.--[[User:Luge\|Luge]] 04:03, 29 October 2012 (EDT)

Arrow Quivershaft at 05:10, 29 October 2012

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	Does the foundry upgrade on this item work? The item itself does not say anything about +25% crit chance and my soldiers that target an enemy do not seem to have any higher crit chance, nor is it displayed in the more info for the shoot. [[User:Mavoc\|Mavoc]] 14:43, 15 October 2012 (EDT)		Does the foundry upgrade on this item work? The item itself does not say anything about +25% crit chance and my soldiers that target an enemy do not seem to have any higher crit chance, nor is it displayed in the more info for the shoot. [[User:Mavoc\|Mavoc]] 14:43, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

			:Not sure if it does. I'll run some tests over the next week. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 01:10, 29 October 2012 (EDT)

	Changed some of the advice given. You do not want to put S.C.O.P.E.S. on everybody in the early game. Grenades are what will let you deal with Sectoids at higher difficulty levels.		Changed some of the advice given. You do not want to put S.C.O.P.E.S. on everybody in the early game. Grenades are what will let you deal with Sectoids at higher difficulty levels.


			==Definition of SCOPE==

			Anybody like "Small Computerized Optical Precision Enhancer"? [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 01:10, 29 October 2012 (EDT)

VoyagerI at 10:10, 19 October 2012

2012-10-19T10:10:04Z

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	Does the foundry upgrade on this item work? The item itself does not say anything about +25% crit chance and my soldiers that target an enemy do not seem to have any higher crit chance, nor is it displayed in the more info for the shoot. [[User:Mavoc\|Mavoc]] 14:43, 15 October 2012 (EDT)		Does the foundry upgrade on this item work? The item itself does not say anything about +25% crit chance and my soldiers that target an enemy do not seem to have any higher crit chance, nor is it displayed in the more info for the shoot. [[User:Mavoc\|Mavoc]] 14:43, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

			Changed some of the advice given. You do not want to put S.C.O.P.E.S. on everybody in the early game. Grenades are what will let you deal with Sectoids at higher difficulty levels.

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Does the foundry upgrade on this item work? The item itself does not say anything about +25% crit chance and my soldiers that target an enemy do not seem to have any higher crit chance, nor is it displayed in the more info for the shoot. [[User:Mavoc|Mavoc]] 14:43, 15 October 2012 (EDT)