https://temp.ufopaedia.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AResearch_%28EU2012%29Talk:Research (EU2012) - Revision history2026-05-01T18:57:45ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.43.6https://temp.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Talk:Research_(EU2012)&diff=63111&oldid=prevXuncu at 08:06, 1 March 20152015-03-01T08:06:23Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:2) What you wrote is correct. Whenever I'm running out of Fragments I don't finish the project and start working on something else. 1) Kokkan is updating the second image with EW. I've also been working on something a bit more graphical: [[Image: Research Tree Hobbes.png]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:2) What you wrote is correct. Whenever I'm running out of Fragments I don't finish the project and start working on something else. 1) Kokkan is updating the second image with EW. I've also been working on something a bit more graphical: [[Image: Research Tree Hobbes.png]]</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 22:59, 3 December 2013 (EST)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[User:Hobbes|Hobbes]] 22:59, 3 December 2013 (EST)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Hm, might give it a shot myself at making a new tree, but for the record; I used XDude's the most, as it's the best design visually (directional, shows "types", and big/spread out enough to see paths clearly while small enough that people on smaller screens can still see the whole thing without the shrinking making it illegible), while Nite's format was the most complete and efficient (if crazily tall). Otherwise, I may go over the top and make a Flash of the whole goddamn thing, with dropdown info and such (I think I could even program a point requirement calculator into it), if I get the drive to do so (don't count on it). --[[User:Xuncu|Xuncu]] 00:20, 4 December 2013 (EST)</ins></div></td></tr>
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