Talk:Reaction fire triggers - Revision history

Slider2k at 10:50, 8 December 2013

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	:::[[User:Jasonred\|Jasonred]] 03:36, 13 March 2009 (CDT)		:::[[User:Jasonred\|Jasonred]] 03:36, 13 March 2009 (CDT)

			== Mutual surprise on alien's turn? ==

			Do aliens actually benefit from mutual surprise on their turn? Did anybody test that? — [[User:Slider2k\|Slider2k]] 05:50, 8 December 2013 (EST)

Jasonred at 08:36, 13 March 2009

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	::The Stun Rod only 'alerts' the alien. As far as I've seen in the games, melee weapons(including the Stun Rod) do not trigger reaction fire on their own. So if you stand next to an alien, you can prod him with your stick all day and he won't even blink an eye. However, the second you do something that WOULD provoke reaction fire, he will THEN turn and shoot at you, even if you aren't in his line of sight. Given that the unit will be at very close range after using the Stun Rod, any reaction fire is liable to be fatal to the victim. I'm guessing the same works in reverse for melee aliens. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 17:44, 12 March 2009 (CDT)		::The Stun Rod only 'alerts' the alien. As far as I've seen in the games, melee weapons(including the Stun Rod) do not trigger reaction fire on their own. So if you stand next to an alien, you can prod him with your stick all day and he won't even blink an eye. However, the second you do something that WOULD provoke reaction fire, he will THEN turn and shoot at you, even if you aren't in his line of sight. Given that the unit will be at very close range after using the Stun Rod, any reaction fire is liable to be fatal to the victim. I'm guessing the same works in reverse for melee aliens. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 17:44, 12 March 2009 (CDT)

			:::I'm sure it does. Those Chrysalids can trigger reaction fire while sprinting at my troops, but once they are nearby, X-com soldiers are petrified by fright or something.

			:::More importantly: Stun rods do not trigger reaction fire on OTHER ALIENS. I just had a game, where I needed a rookie to run inside a landed UFO. Booming the elerium was not an acceptable option. So, I knew he was gonna die.

			:::Or so I thought. What actually happened is he ran inside the UFO and spotted 4 sectoids. He ran up to one of them and used the stun rod... KO. So he swiveled to the right, stun rod... KO! And... he's out of TU, and not been fired at. Hmm... (swivelling doesn't trigger reaction fire either!) My 2 troops outside now have clear shots at 1 alien, and they fire. Success! One last stun rod on an alien facing the wrong way, and... mission complete.

			:::[[User:Jasonred\|Jasonred]] 03:36, 13 March 2009 (CDT)

Arrow Quivershaft: Stun Rod only alerts aliens; believed same for TFTD melee weapons.

2009-03-12T22:44:47Z

Stun Rod only alerts aliens; believed same for TFTD melee weapons.

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	:Do stun rods trigger reaction fire at all? Or do they only "alert" aliens? In my experience, it seems that they do not, but I was playing a normal campaign not playtesting at the time, so I can't be sure. [[User:Jasonred\|Jasonred]] 11:41, 12 March 2009 (CDT)		:Do stun rods trigger reaction fire at all? Or do they only "alert" aliens? In my experience, it seems that they do not, but I was playing a normal campaign not playtesting at the time, so I can't be sure. [[User:Jasonred\|Jasonred]] 11:41, 12 March 2009 (CDT)

			::The Stun Rod only 'alerts' the alien. As far as I've seen in the games, melee weapons(including the Stun Rod) do not trigger reaction fire on their own. So if you stand next to an alien, you can prod him with your stick all day and he won't even blink an eye. However, the second you do something that WOULD provoke reaction fire, he will THEN turn and shoot at you, even if you aren't in his line of sight. Given that the unit will be at very close range after using the Stun Rod, any reaction fire is liable to be fatal to the victim. I'm guessing the same works in reverse for melee aliens. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 17:44, 12 March 2009 (CDT)

Jasonred: Reaction Fire Trigger - Stun rod?

2009-03-12T16:41:02Z

Reaction Fire Trigger - Stun rod?

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	"Even if you are facing the alien, you will get shot at as you move up or down into its line of sight." Indeed. Unfortunately, I learned that the hard way.--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 14:38, 14 November 2008 (CST)		"Even if you are facing the alien, you will get shot at as you move up or down into its line of sight." Indeed. Unfortunately, I learned that the hard way.--[[User:Amitakartok\|amitakartok]] 14:38, 14 November 2008 (CST)

			:Do stun rods trigger reaction fire at all? Or do they only "alert" aliens? In my experience, it seems that they do not, but I was playing a normal campaign not playtesting at the time, so I can't be sure. [[User:Jasonred\|Jasonred]] 11:41, 12 March 2009 (CDT)

Amitakartok: New page: "Even if you are facing the alien, you will get shot at as you move up or down into its line of sight." Indeed. Unfortunately, I learned that the hard way.--~~~~

2008-11-14T20:38:03Z

New page: "Even if you are facing the alien, you will get shot at as you move up or down into its line of sight." Indeed. Unfortunately, I learned that the hard way.--~~~~

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"Even if you are facing the alien, you will get shot at as you move up or down into its line of sight." Indeed. Unfortunately, I learned that the hard way.--[[User:Amitakartok|amitakartok]] 14:38, 14 November 2008 (CST)