Talk:Psionic (EU2012) - Revision history

DracoGriffin at 20:29, 24 November 2013

2013-11-24T20:29:22Z

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	This ability from OTS is amazing. Early on, it is great if high Will MEC Trooper is Squad Leader as MEC suits provide +Will. Late game however, it becomes Godlike. No longer do you need high Will Psionics anymore, so long as the Squad Leader has high Will, gifted or not. It does appear to affect attack and defense values (akin to Mind Shield) so easy way to verify: low Will Psi soldier attempt Mindfray/Mind Control to determine %, move high Will Squad Leader into range, watch low Will Psi soldier attempt % skyrocket.		This ability from OTS is amazing. Early on, it is great if high Will MEC Trooper is Squad Leader as MEC suits provide +Will. Late game however, it becomes Godlike. No longer do you need high Will Psionics anymore, so long as the Squad Leader has high Will, gifted or not. It does appear to affect attack and defense values (akin to Mind Shield) so easy way to verify: low Will Psi soldier attempt Mindfray/Mind Control to determine %, move high Will Squad Leader into range, watch low Will Psi soldier attempt % skyrocket.
	:My question is: if you bring 6 Colonels does the one with the highest Will get to be the Leader? [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 15:12, 24 November 2013 (EST)		:My question is: if you bring 6 Colonels does the one with the highest Will get to be the Leader? [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 15:12, 24 November 2013 (EST)
			::Unfortunately, no. However if you read [[Squads (EU2012)#Squad Leader\|Squad Leader]] article, there are ways to ensure who you want as Squad Leader.--[[User:DracoGriffin\|DracoGriffin]] 15:29, 24 November 2013 (EST)
	Currently have Psi Assault with base 120 Will with Psi Armor (+20 Will) and Mind Shield (+30 Will). In tactical, as long as he is Squad Leader, every soldier shares the same 170 Will. If I Psi Inspire every other soldier but the Psi Assault, the squad will receive the Inspired bonus but their Will will still be 170 unless out of range of Psi Assault, at which they will be at different value. However, if the Psi Assault Psi Inspires only himself then he alone will receive Inspired bonus but the extra +30 Will will grant nearby soldiers (Squad Leader bonus) the 200 Will value!!--[[User:DracoGriffin\|DracoGriffin]] 14:07, 24 November 2013 (EST)		Currently have Psi Assault with base 120 Will with Psi Armor (+20 Will) and Mind Shield (+30 Will). In tactical, as long as he is Squad Leader, every soldier shares the same 170 Will. If I Psi Inspire every other soldier but the Psi Assault, the squad will receive the Inspired bonus but their Will will still be 170 unless out of range of Psi Assault, at which they will be at different value. However, if the Psi Assault Psi Inspires only himself then he alone will receive Inspired bonus but the extra +30 Will will grant nearby soldiers (Squad Leader bonus) the 200 Will value!!--[[User:DracoGriffin\|DracoGriffin]] 14:07, 24 November 2013 (EST)

Hobbes: /* Enemy Within Changes - Lead By Example */

2013-11-24T20:12:42Z

Enemy Within Changes - Lead By Example

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	This ability from OTS is amazing. Early on, it is great if high Will MEC Trooper is Squad Leader as MEC suits provide +Will. Late game however, it becomes Godlike. No longer do you need high Will Psionics anymore, so long as the Squad Leader has high Will, gifted or not. It does appear to affect attack and defense values (akin to Mind Shield) so easy way to verify: low Will Psi soldier attempt Mindfray/Mind Control to determine %, move high Will Squad Leader into range, watch low Will Psi soldier attempt % skyrocket.		This ability from OTS is amazing. Early on, it is great if high Will MEC Trooper is Squad Leader as MEC suits provide +Will. Late game however, it becomes Godlike. No longer do you need high Will Psionics anymore, so long as the Squad Leader has high Will, gifted or not. It does appear to affect attack and defense values (akin to Mind Shield) so easy way to verify: low Will Psi soldier attempt Mindfray/Mind Control to determine %, move high Will Squad Leader into range, watch low Will Psi soldier attempt % skyrocket.
			:My question is: if you bring 6 Colonels does the one with the highest Will get to be the Leader? [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 15:12, 24 November 2013 (EST)
	Currently have Psi Assault with base 120 Will with Psi Armor (+20 Will) and Mind Shield (+30 Will). In tactical, as long as he is Squad Leader, every soldier shares the same 170 Will. If I Psi Inspire every other soldier but the Psi Assault, the squad will receive the Inspired bonus but their Will will still be 170 unless out of range of Psi Assault, at which they will be at different value. However, if the Psi Assault Psi Inspires only himself then he alone will receive Inspired bonus but the extra +30 Will will grant nearby soldiers (Squad Leader bonus) the 200 Will value!!--[[User:DracoGriffin\|DracoGriffin]] 14:07, 24 November 2013 (EST)		Currently have Psi Assault with base 120 Will with Psi Armor (+20 Will) and Mind Shield (+30 Will). In tactical, as long as he is Squad Leader, every soldier shares the same 170 Will. If I Psi Inspire every other soldier but the Psi Assault, the squad will receive the Inspired bonus but their Will will still be 170 unless out of range of Psi Assault, at which they will be at different value. However, if the Psi Assault Psi Inspires only himself then he alone will receive Inspired bonus but the extra +30 Will will grant nearby soldiers (Squad Leader bonus) the 200 Will value!!--[[User:DracoGriffin\|DracoGriffin]] 14:07, 24 November 2013 (EST)

DracoGriffin: /* Enemy Within Changes - Lead By Example */ new section

2013-11-24T19:07:19Z

Enemy Within Changes - Lead By Example: new section

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	And I don't know it's from alien's bonus will or it's difficulty penalty; since I can't check alien stats in SP. But we don't see bonus will on alien stats line, I concluded it is from difficulty penalty. --[[User:Moyang\|Moyang]] 22:32, 27 November 2012 (EST)		And I don't know it's from alien's bonus will or it's difficulty penalty; since I can't check alien stats in SP. But we don't see bonus will on alien stats line, I concluded it is from difficulty penalty. --[[User:Moyang\|Moyang]] 22:32, 27 November 2012 (EST)
	:I didn't see damage difference of Rift with difficulty change, and concluded there is no will bonus for most aliens on higher difficulty. [[User:Moyang\|Moyang]] 06:27, 3 January 2013 (EST)		:I didn't see damage difference of Rift with difficulty change, and concluded there is no will bonus for most aliens on higher difficulty. [[User:Moyang\|Moyang]] 06:27, 3 January 2013 (EST)

			== Enemy Within Changes - Lead By Example ==

			This ability from OTS is amazing. Early on, it is great if high Will MEC Trooper is Squad Leader as MEC suits provide +Will. Late game however, it becomes Godlike. No longer do you need high Will Psionics anymore, so long as the Squad Leader has high Will, gifted or not. It does appear to affect attack and defense values (akin to Mind Shield) so easy way to verify: low Will Psi soldier attempt Mindfray/Mind Control to determine %, move high Will Squad Leader into range, watch low Will Psi soldier attempt % skyrocket.

			Currently have Psi Assault with base 120 Will with Psi Armor (+20 Will) and Mind Shield (+30 Will). In tactical, as long as he is Squad Leader, every soldier shares the same 170 Will. If I Psi Inspire every other soldier but the Psi Assault, the squad will receive the Inspired bonus but their Will will still be 170 unless out of range of Psi Assault, at which they will be at different value. However, if the Psi Assault Psi Inspires only himself then he alone will receive Inspired bonus but the extra +30 Will will grant nearby soldiers (Squad Leader bonus) the 200 Will value!!--[[User:DracoGriffin\|DracoGriffin]] 14:07, 24 November 2013 (EST)

Moyang: /* Psi attack chances */

2013-01-03T11:27:09Z

Psi attack chances

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	I tested psi attack chances and came with conclusion, [http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?189441 thread here]. The thing is, I found psi attacks have lower chances in classic and impossible. 60 will soldier's Mindfray had 100%/90%/80% chance to sectoid(10 will) on normal/classic/impossible.		I tested psi attack chances and came with conclusion, [http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?189441 thread here]. The thing is, I found psi attacks have lower chances in classic and impossible. 60 will soldier's Mindfray had 100%/90%/80% chance to sectoid(10 will) on normal/classic/impossible.
	And I don't know it's from alien's bonus will or it's difficulty penalty; since I can't check alien stats in SP. But we don't see bonus will on alien stats line, I concluded it is from difficulty penalty. --[[User:Moyang\|Moyang]] 22:32, 27 November 2012 (EST)		And I don't know it's from alien's bonus will or it's difficulty penalty; since I can't check alien stats in SP. But we don't see bonus will on alien stats line, I concluded it is from difficulty penalty. --[[User:Moyang\|Moyang]] 22:32, 27 November 2012 (EST)
			:I didn't see damage difference of Rift with difficulty change, and concluded there is no will bonus for most aliens on higher difficulty. [[User:Moyang\|Moyang]] 06:27, 3 January 2013 (EST)

Moyang: /* Psi attack chances */

2012-11-29T21:21:59Z

Psi attack chances

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	==Psi attack chances==		==Psi attack chances==
	I tested psi attack chances and came with conclusion, [http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?189441 thread here]. The thing is, I found psi attacks have lower chances in classic and impossible. 60 will soldier's Mindfray had 100%/90%/80% chance to sectoid(10 will) on normal/classic/impossible.		I tested psi attack chances and came with conclusion, [http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?189441 thread here]. The thing is, I found psi attacks have lower chances in classic and impossible. 60 will soldier's Mindfray had 100%/90%/80% chance to sectoid(10 will) on normal/classic/impossible.
	And I don't know it's from alien's bonus will or it's difficulty penalty; since I can't check alien stats in SP. But we don't see bonus will on alien stats line, I concluded it is from difficulty penalty. --[[User:Moyang\|Moyang]] 16:20, 29 November 2012 (EST)		And I don't know it's from alien's bonus will or it's difficulty penalty; since I can't check alien stats in SP. But we don't see bonus will on alien stats line, I concluded it is from difficulty penalty. --[[User:Moyang\|Moyang]] 22:32, 27 November 2012 (EST)

Moyang at 21:20, 29 November 2012

2012-11-29T21:20:50Z

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	==Psi attack chances==		==Psi attack chances==
	I tested psi attack chances and came with conclusion, [http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?189441 thread here]. The thing is, I found psi attacks have lower chances in classic and impossible. 60 will soldier's Mindfray had 100%/90%/80% chance to sectoid(10 will) on normal/classic/impossible.		I tested psi attack chances and came with conclusion, [http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?189441 thread here]. The thing is, I found psi attacks have lower chances in classic and impossible. 60 will soldier's Mindfray had 100%/90%/80% chance to sectoid(10 will) on normal/classic/impossible.
	And I don't know it's from alien's bonus will or it's difficulty penalty; since I can't check alien stats in SP. But we don't see bonus will on alien stats line, I concluded it is from difficulty penalty.		And I don't know it's from alien's bonus will or it's difficulty penalty; since I can't check alien stats in SP. But we don't see bonus will on alien stats line, I concluded it is from difficulty penalty. --[[User:Moyang\|Moyang]] 16:20, 29 November 2012 (EST)

Moyang: /* Rift */

2012-11-28T03:32:20Z

Rift

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	I've only did the end-game mission once since I've bought this game (and now trying to get a decent start on a Classic game) so don't know enough to verify, but I take it this ability can only be used in the end-game mission? [[User:NKF\|NKF]] 02:16, 22 November 2012 (EST)		I've only did the end-game mission once since I've bought this game (and now trying to get a decent start on a Classic game) so don't know enough to verify, but I take it this ability can only be used in the end-game mission? [[User:NKF\|NKF]] 02:16, 22 November 2012 (EST)
	:Yes. It only becomes available for the last mission after you've used the Gollop Chamber. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 04:47, 22 November 2012 (EST)		:Yes. It only becomes available for the last mission after you've used the Gollop Chamber. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 04:47, 22 November 2012 (EST)

			==Psi attack chances==
			I tested psi attack chances and came with conclusion, [http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?189441 thread here]. The thing is, I found psi attacks have lower chances in classic and impossible. 60 will soldier's Mindfray had 100%/90%/80% chance to sectoid(10 will) on normal/classic/impossible.
			And I don't know it's from alien's bonus will or it's difficulty penalty; since I can't check alien stats in SP. But we don't see bonus will on alien stats line, I concluded it is from difficulty penalty.

Hobbes at 09:47, 22 November 2012

2012-11-22T09:47:56Z

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	I've only did the end-game mission once since I've bought this game (and now trying to get a decent start on a Classic game) so don't know enough to verify, but I take it this ability can only be used in the end-game mission? [[User:NKF\|NKF]] 02:16, 22 November 2012 (EST)		I've only did the end-game mission once since I've bought this game (and now trying to get a decent start on a Classic game) so don't know enough to verify, but I take it this ability can only be used in the end-game mission? [[User:NKF\|NKF]] 02:16, 22 November 2012 (EST)
			:Yes. It only becomes available for the last mission after you've used the Gollop Chamber. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 04:47, 22 November 2012 (EST)

NKF: Rift?

2012-11-22T07:16:36Z

Rift?

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==Rift==

I've only did the end-game mission once since I've bought this game (and now trying to get a decent start on a Classic game) so don't know enough to verify, but I take it this ability can only be used in the end-game mission? [[User:NKF|NKF]] 02:16, 22 November 2012 (EST)