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Pete at 19:15, 2 November 2010

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	: We can try several different styles and see what works best. But I think the horizontal one for the main three games and smaller icons for the spinoffs is a good idea for the individual main tables. We already have the links down the side, but a visual one at the top wouldn't be bad. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 23:46, 26 October 2010 (BST)		: We can try several different styles and see what works best. But I think the horizontal one for the main three games and smaller icons for the spinoffs is a good idea for the individual main tables. We already have the links down the side, but a visual one at the top wouldn't be bad. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 23:46, 26 October 2010 (BST)

			:: I like it. I would like to see another version (just stick it below the current boxes I reckon) that has the boxes about a third smaller and is done over 3 columns instead. Taking a screen resolution of 1024x768 as a minimum (there are literally only 1-2% of folks who come here using less, and looking at the stats they're viewing on phones I reckon so the site is scaled down to fit anyway), you could safely design something that would fit in a table 816 pixels wide and it would display fine at that resolution and higher (just giving you an idea of minimum width, so each cell could be a minimum of 272 pixels wide, so your widest image in each column can be no larger than that).

NKF at 22:46, 26 October 2010

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	Well, I thought that boxes would be placed horizontally and without text links to the right side. Only boxes, all in the same gray-blue, gray-brown palette. Also, I wanted to place these pictures to the background of every main table, but they have to be much lighter to allow the text be visible. It could be 3 large boxes in a row (with x-com 1-3) and in the second row there are smaller boxes with other games. No time at all to draw this, sorry! --[[User:Ufo.mesh\|ufo.mesh]] 10:33, 26 October 2010 (BST)		Well, I thought that boxes would be placed horizontally and without text links to the right side. Only boxes, all in the same gray-blue, gray-brown palette. Also, I wanted to place these pictures to the background of every main table, but they have to be much lighter to allow the text be visible. It could be 3 large boxes in a row (with x-com 1-3) and in the second row there are smaller boxes with other games. No time at all to draw this, sorry! --[[User:Ufo.mesh\|ufo.mesh]] 10:33, 26 October 2010 (BST)

			: We can try several different styles and see what works best. But I think the horizontal one for the main three games and smaller icons for the spinoffs is a good idea for the individual main tables. We already have the links down the side, but a visual one at the top wouldn't be bad. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 23:46, 26 October 2010 (BST)

NKF: Deleted older discussion

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	Please leave me some feedback on the redesign I'm assembling, or make your own changes or fixes to it (or to any of the pages it links to, some of which still need serious work). Keep in mind that this page is still a prototype, with much more work to be done.

	~~--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 22:50, 28 May 2006 (PDT)~~

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	~~It's looking a bit chunky, but I like it.~~

	~~I mean, it's meatier the its previous incarnation, but you get quicker access to the more interesting information.~~

	~~My only real comment for the moment is that the site information section could be split off from the UFO table. It relates more to the site as a whole than to the UFO section in general.~~

	~~- [[User:NKF\|NKF]]~~

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	~~Okay, I split it off, good point.~~

	I added in the other titles and made the formatting "less chunky". I'm willing to call the redesign done at this point. I'll leave it here for about a week before I copy it to the Main Page, barring opposition.

	~~--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 11:52, 1 June 2006 (PDT)~~

	~~----~~

	~~I said the proof is in the pudding... and I like it a lot! In fact I'm already using it and seeing things I hadn't noticed before. I say let's go for it.~~

	NKF, you may be scratching your head, because I wanted less menu entries with the old main page, not more. But that was when it was one column, and space was at a premium. With so much more room, a lot can be put there... and it's great to get right to good stuff.

	Sure, it will be able to use some tweaking... but more because the site is still disorganized in places. For example, Research Tips is like a lite version of Research, because it was made before Research was. Things like Grenades combined or made into a primary entry with secondaries or something.

	~~I was going to suggest the left alignment... centering wasn't working, with the indented secondary headings.~~

	~~What happened to the "Game File Analysis" section?~~

	~~I say let's do it.~~

	Do you think the current main page might be retired to an "old main page", at least for a little while. That way we can find things we know are somewhere, if we can't seem to find them with the new page. There could be a tiny link at the bottom of the new main page saying "click here to access the previous version of the main page".

	~~THANKS for taking the time to put that together!!~~

	~~---[[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 19:12, 2 June 2006 (PDT)~~

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	Yeah, a number of individual articles still need some reworking, but I think most of the major ones are in pretty good shape now. The Equipment and Alien pages need to be standardized a bit. A few topics are still underserviced -- mostly tactical and strategic pages, which are hard to write with authority.

	~~The HTML was pretty mangled before. I hadn't even realized because I was using Firefox, and Firefox apparently disregarded the center-align instruction. I'm glad I thought to load it up in IE.~~

	~~Note to NKF: the 'small' tag doesn't display all that well in either IE or Firefox, and they both render it differently. Better to stick to italics, I think.~~

	~~Game File Analysis is a subsection of the Under the Hood page -- I added a link to it from Saved Game Files, which is directly linked on the new main page.~~

	~~The archive link can be as simple as this: http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=6364~~

	~~You're welcome. I think the site is increasingly living up to its promise. Now I want to spider it so I don't have to be online to access it while I'm playing X-COM. :-)~~

	~~Shameless plug: did you notice I found the correct Psionics formula? Haven't researched the distance portion of it yet, though.~~

	~~--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 20:58, 2 June 2006 (PDT)~~

	~~----~~

	~~Good point about a link for the old main page.~~

	~~Erm... what's a spider? Saving for off-line viewing? I use IE, if it matters.~~

	~~The Psi formula? Gadzooks! See my comments on its Discussion page~~

	~~---[[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 22:15, 2 June 2006 (PDT)~~

	~~----~~

	~~A spider is a program which "crawls" a website, downloading its pages. Search engines use them to index pages; they can also be used to copy a site's content.~~

	~~--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 10:55, 3 June 2006 (PDT)~~

	~~----~~

	Well, I thought that boxes would be placed horizontally and without text links to the right side. Only boxes, all in the same gray-blue, gray-brown palette. Also, I wanted to place these pictures to the background of every main table, but they have to be much lighter to allow the text be visible. It could be 3 large boxes in a row (with x-com 1-3) and in the second row there are smaller boxes with other games. No time at all to draw this, sorry! --[[User:Ufo.mesh\|ufo.mesh]] 10:33, 26 October 2010 (BST)		Well, I thought that boxes would be placed horizontally and without text links to the right side. Only boxes, all in the same gray-blue, gray-brown palette. Also, I wanted to place these pictures to the background of every main table, but they have to be much lighter to allow the text be visible. It could be 3 large boxes in a row (with x-com 1-3) and in the second row there are smaller boxes with other games. No time at all to draw this, sorry! --[[User:Ufo.mesh\|ufo.mesh]] 10:33, 26 October 2010 (BST)

Ufo.mesh at 09:36, 26 October 2010

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	:: Well, I thought that boxes would be placed horizontally and without text links to the right side. Only boxes, all in the same gray-blue, gray-brown palette. Also, I wanted to place these pictures to the background of every main table, but they have to be much lighter to allow the text be visible. It could be 3 large boxes in a row (with x-com 1-3) and in the second row there are smaller boxes with other games. No time at all to draw this, sorry! --[[User:Ufo.mesh\|ufo.mesh]] 10:33, 26 October 2010 (BST)		Well, I thought that boxes would be placed horizontally and without text links to the right side. Only boxes, all in the same gray-blue, gray-brown palette. Also, I wanted to place these pictures to the background of every main table, but they have to be much lighter to allow the text be visible. It could be 3 large boxes in a row (with x-com 1-3) and in the second row there are smaller boxes with other games. No time at all to draw this, sorry! --[[User:Ufo.mesh\|ufo.mesh]] 10:33, 26 October 2010 (BST)

Ufo.mesh at 09:35, 26 October 2010

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	--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 10:55, 3 June 2006 (PDT)		--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 10:55, 3 June 2006 (PDT)

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			:: Well, I thought that boxes would be placed horizontally and without text links to the right side. Only boxes, all in the same gray-blue, gray-brown palette. Also, I wanted to place these pictures to the background of every main table, but they have to be much lighter to allow the text be visible. It could be 3 large boxes in a row (with x-com 1-3) and in the second row there are smaller boxes with other games. No time at all to draw this, sorry! --[[User:Ufo.mesh\|ufo.mesh]] 10:33, 26 October 2010 (BST)

Ethereal Cereal: reply to MTR

2006-06-03T17:55:25Z

reply to MTR

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	---[[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 22:15, 2 June 2006 (PDT)		---[[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 22:15, 2 June 2006 (PDT)

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			A spider is a program which "crawls" a website, downloading its pages. Search engines use them to index pages; they can also be used to copy a site's content.

			--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 10:55, 3 June 2006 (PDT)

MikeTheRed at 05:15, 3 June 2006

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	--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 20:58, 2 June 2006 (PDT)		--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 20:58, 2 June 2006 (PDT)

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			Good point about a link for the old main page.

			Erm... what's a spider? Saving for off-line viewing? I use IE, if it matters.

			The Psi formula? Gadzooks! See my comments on its Discussion page

			---[[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 22:15, 2 June 2006 (PDT)

Ethereal Cereal: reply to MTR

2006-06-03T03:58:20Z

reply to MTR

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	---[[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 19:12, 2 June 2006 (PDT)		---[[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 19:12, 2 June 2006 (PDT)

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			Yeah, a number of individual articles still need some reworking, but I think most of the major ones are in pretty good shape now. The Equipment and Alien pages need to be standardized a bit. A few topics are still underserviced -- mostly tactical and strategic pages, which are hard to write with authority.

			The HTML was pretty mangled before. I hadn't even realized because I was using Firefox, and Firefox apparently disregarded the center-align instruction. I'm glad I thought to load it up in IE.

			Note to NKF: the 'small' tag doesn't display all that well in either IE or Firefox, and they both render it differently. Better to stick to italics, I think.

			Game File Analysis is a subsection of the Under the Hood page -- I added a link to it from Saved Game Files, which is directly linked on the new main page.

			The archive link can be as simple as this: http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=6364

			You're welcome. I think the site is increasingly living up to its promise. Now I want to spider it so I don't have to be online to access it while I'm playing X-COM. :-)

			Shameless plug: did you notice I found the correct Psionics formula? Haven't researched the distance portion of it yet, though.

			--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 20:58, 2 June 2006 (PDT)

MikeTheRed: Note to Ethereal - Thanks for the new main page!

2006-06-03T02:12:16Z

Note to Ethereal - Thanks for the new main page!

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	--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 11:52, 1 June 2006 (PDT)		--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 11:52, 1 June 2006 (PDT)

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			I said the proof is in the pudding... and I like it a lot! In fact I'm already using it and seeing things I hadn't noticed before. I say let's go for it.

			NKF, you may be scratching your head, because I wanted less menu entries with the old main page, not more. But that was when it was one column, and space was at a premium. With so much more room, a lot can be put there... and it's great to get right to good stuff.

			Sure, it will be able to use some tweaking... but more because the site is still disorganized in places. For example, Research Tips is like a lite version of Research, because it was made before Research was. Things like Grenades combined or made into a primary entry with secondaries or something.

			I was going to suggest the left alignment... centering wasn't working, with the indented secondary headings.

			What happened to the "Game File Analysis" section?

			I say let's do it.

			Do you think the current main page might be retired to an "old main page", at least for a little while. That way we can find things we know are somewhere, if we can't seem to find them with the new page. There could be a tiny link at the bottom of the new main page saying "click here to access the previous version of the main page".

			THANKS for taking the time to put that together!!

			---[[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 19:12, 2 June 2006 (PDT)

Ethereal Cereal: reply to NKF

2006-06-01T18:52:24Z

reply to NKF

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	- [[User:NKF\|NKF]]		- [[User:NKF\|NKF]]

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			Okay, I split it off, good point.

			I added in the other titles and made the formatting "less chunky". I'm willing to call the redesign done at this point. I'll leave it here for about a week before I copy it to the Main Page, barring opposition.

			--[[User:Ethereal Cereal\|Ethereal Cereal]] 11:52, 1 June 2006 (PDT)