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PocketUFOPlayer?: link

2019-03-12T13:58:30Z

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	I thought that successful mind control leaves a soldier at 0 Morale. Thus, the turn after Mind Control, they always suffer Panic/Berserk, and end that turn with 15 Morale. This also makes them likely to Panic/Berserk the next turn, as well. Or is this only applicable to XCOM units that are mind controlled. [[User:PocketUFOPlayer?\|PocketUFOPlayer?]] ([[User talk:PocketUFOPlayer?\|talk]]) 14:53, 12 March 2019 (CET)		I thought that successful mind control leaves a soldier at 0 [[Morale]]. Thus, the turn after Mind Control, they always suffer Panic/Berserk, and end that turn with 15 Morale. This also makes them likely to Panic/Berserk the next turn, as well. Or is this only applicable to XCOM units that are mind controlled. [[User:PocketUFOPlayer?\|PocketUFOPlayer?]] ([[User talk:PocketUFOPlayer?\|talk]]) 14:53, 12 March 2019 (CET)

	== Creatures Mind Control and Permanent Alien Control ==		== Creatures Mind Control and Permanent Alien Control ==

PocketUFOPlayer? at 13:53, 12 March 2019

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	:That may well be true, on thought. The easiest way for the MC code to perform would be for the computer to simulate that the newly MC'd unit just started it's turn. It also avoids nasty issues of one side running its troops to exhaustion and either accidentally or even deliberately preventing the other side from effectively using the Psissie. Zombie will probably run tests as soon as he sees this. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 15:36, 15 February 2008 (PST)		:That may well be true, on thought. The easiest way for the MC code to perform would be for the computer to simulate that the newly MC'd unit just started it's turn. It also avoids nasty issues of one side running its troops to exhaustion and either accidentally or even deliberately preventing the other side from effectively using the Psissie. Zombie will probably run tests as soon as he sees this. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 15:36, 15 February 2008 (PST)

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			I thought that successful mind control leaves a soldier at 0 Morale. Thus, the turn after Mind Control, they always suffer Panic/Berserk, and end that turn with 15 Morale. This also makes them likely to Panic/Berserk the next turn, as well. Or is this only applicable to XCOM units that are mind controlled. [[User:PocketUFOPlayer?\|PocketUFOPlayer?]] ([[User talk:PocketUFOPlayer?\|talk]]) 14:53, 12 March 2019 (CET)

	== Creatures Mind Control and Permanent Alien Control ==		== Creatures Mind Control and Permanent Alien Control ==

NightChime: I was actually zombified by a Chryssalid in a blind-spot

2008-10-25T07:25:21Z

I was actually zombified by a Chryssalid in a blind-spot

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	:Actually, you only need to MC one square to control it. However, if you only control one square, the three hostile squares can and often will reaction-fire against the MC'ed square and kill the whole unit, which may not be what you wanted. In order to avoid reaction fire, all four squares need to be under Mind Control; however, every time you MC the unit, it has it's TUs set to full, allowing you to use it for more shooting. Also, add a signature to your posts by adding 4 consecutive tildes(~) to the end of the post, like I will do now. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 15:40, 5 September 2008 (PDT)		:Actually, you only need to MC one square to control it. However, if you only control one square, the three hostile squares can and often will reaction-fire against the MC'ed square and kill the whole unit, which may not be what you wanted. In order to avoid reaction fire, all four squares need to be under Mind Control; however, every time you MC the unit, it has it's TUs set to full, allowing you to use it for more shooting. Also, add a signature to your posts by adding 4 consecutive tildes(~) to the end of the post, like I will do now. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 15:40, 5 September 2008 (PDT)

	~~== Graphical glitch when MC'd by an alien ==~~

	It's the first time one of my soldiers has been mind-controlled, and his sprites are out of whack. He instead looks like a horizontal line one pixel tall of various colors (I think his color scheme, a Power Suit), about shoulder height. Upon moving, I think every other frame flashed white, or at least something to that effect. I don't really feel that it's hurt my gameplay at all, but I am curious if anyone else has experienced this. I'm running UFO Defense (1.4 i'm 99% sure) in DOSBox 0.72 on Windows XP Home. [[User:NightChime\|NightChime]] 01:30, 25 October 2008 (CDT)

NightChime: OK done fixing! haha

2008-10-25T06:33:09Z

OK done fixing! haha

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	== Graphical glitch when MC'd by an alien ==		== Graphical glitch when MC'd by an alien ==

	It's the first time one of my soldiers has been mind-controlled, and his sprites are out of whack. He instead looks like a horizontal line one pixel tall of various colors (I think his color scheme, a Power Suit). Upon moving, I think every other frame flashed white, or at least something to that effect~~), about shoulder height~~. I don't really feel that it's hurt my gameplay ~~or anything~~, but I am curious if anyone else has experienced this. I'm running UFO Defense (1.4 i'm 99% sure) in DOSBox 0.72 on Windows XP Home. [[User:NightChime\|NightChime]] 01:30, 25 October 2008 (CDT)		It's the first time one of my soldiers has been mind-controlled, and his sprites are out of whack. He instead looks like a horizontal line one pixel tall of various colors (I think his color scheme, a Power Suit), about shoulder height. Upon moving, I think every other frame flashed white, or at least something to that effect. I don't really feel that it's hurt my gameplay at all, but I am curious if anyone else has experienced this. I'm running UFO Defense (1.4 i'm 99% sure) in DOSBox 0.72 on Windows XP Home. [[User:NightChime\|NightChime]] 01:30, 25 October 2008 (CDT)

NightChime: grammar fix

2008-10-25T06:31:37Z

grammar fix

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	== Graphical glitch when MC'd by an alien ==		== Graphical glitch when MC'd by an alien ==

	It's the first time one of my soldiers has been mind-controlled, and his sprites are out of whack. He instead looks like a horizontal line one pixel tall of various (I think his color scheme, a Power Suit). Upon moving, I think every other frame flashed white, or at least something to that effect. I don't really feel that it's hurt my gameplay or anything, but I am curious if anyone else has experienced this. I'm running UFO Defense (1.4 i'm 99% sure) in DOSBox 0.72 on Windows XP Home. [[User:NightChime\|NightChime]] 01:30, 25 October 2008 (CDT)		It's the first time one of my soldiers has been mind-controlled, and his sprites are out of whack. He instead looks like a horizontal line one pixel tall of various colors (I think his color scheme, a Power Suit). Upon moving, I think every other frame flashed white, or at least something to that effect), about shoulder height. I don't really feel that it's hurt my gameplay or anything, but I am curious if anyone else has experienced this. I'm running UFO Defense (1.4 i'm 99% sure) in DOSBox 0.72 on Windows XP Home. [[User:NightChime\|NightChime]] 01:30, 25 October 2008 (CDT)

NightChime: New section: Graphical glitch when MC'd by an alien

2008-10-25T06:30:30Z

New section: Graphical glitch when MC'd by an alien

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	:Actually, you only need to MC one square to control it. However, if you only control one square, the three hostile squares can and often will reaction-fire against the MC'ed square and kill the whole unit, which may not be what you wanted. In order to avoid reaction fire, all four squares need to be under Mind Control; however, every time you MC the unit, it has it's TUs set to full, allowing you to use it for more shooting. Also, add a signature to your posts by adding 4 consecutive tildes(~) to the end of the post, like I will do now. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 15:40, 5 September 2008 (PDT)		:Actually, you only need to MC one square to control it. However, if you only control one square, the three hostile squares can and often will reaction-fire against the MC'ed square and kill the whole unit, which may not be what you wanted. In order to avoid reaction fire, all four squares need to be under Mind Control; however, every time you MC the unit, it has it's TUs set to full, allowing you to use it for more shooting. Also, add a signature to your posts by adding 4 consecutive tildes(~) to the end of the post, like I will do now. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 15:40, 5 September 2008 (PDT)

			== Graphical glitch when MC'd by an alien ==

			It's the first time one of my soldiers has been mind-controlled, and his sprites are out of whack. He instead looks like a horizontal line one pixel tall of various (I think his color scheme, a Power Suit). Upon moving, I think every other frame flashed white, or at least something to that effect. I don't really feel that it's hurt my gameplay or anything, but I am curious if anyone else has experienced this. I'm running UFO Defense (1.4 i'm 99% sure) in DOSBox 0.72 on Windows XP Home. [[User:NightChime\|NightChime]] 01:30, 25 October 2008 (CDT)

Arrow Quivershaft: Add name, response

2008-09-05T22:40:55Z

Add name, response

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	I also tried the Permanent Alien Control Trick (MC Alien who can be stunned, use Mini Launcher to stun him, them wake him up using Med-Kit). It didn´t work.		I also tried the Permanent Alien Control Trick (MC Alien who can be stunned, use Mini Launcher to stun him, them wake him up using Med-Kit). It didn´t work.

	Also, on the Permanent Alien Control trick, you can only use the Mini Launcher, since you can´t use the stun rod on friendly (MC´d) units.		Also, on the Permanent Alien Control trick, you can only use the Mini Launcher, since you can´t use the stun rod on friendly (MC´d) units. [[User:Unsterblich\|Unsterblich]]

			:Actually, you only need to MC one square to control it. However, if you only control one square, the three hostile squares can and often will reaction-fire against the MC'ed square and kill the whole unit, which may not be what you wanted. In order to avoid reaction fire, all four squares need to be under Mind Control; however, every time you MC the unit, it has it's TUs set to full, allowing you to use it for more shooting. Also, add a signature to your posts by adding 4 consecutive tildes(~) to the end of the post, like I will do now. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 15:40, 5 September 2008 (PDT)

Unsterblich: New section: Creatures Mind Control and Permanent Alien Control

2008-09-05T22:17:11Z

New section: Creatures Mind Control and Permanent Alien Control

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	:That may well be true, on thought. The easiest way for the MC code to perform would be for the computer to simulate that the newly MC'd unit just started it's turn. It also avoids nasty issues of one side running its troops to exhaustion and either accidentally or even deliberately preventing the other side from effectively using the Psissie. Zombie will probably run tests as soon as he sees this. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 15:36, 15 February 2008 (PST)		:That may well be true, on thought. The easiest way for the MC code to perform would be for the computer to simulate that the newly MC'd unit just started it's turn. It also avoids nasty issues of one side running its troops to exhaustion and either accidentally or even deliberately preventing the other side from effectively using the Psissie. Zombie will probably run tests as soon as he sees this. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 15:36, 15 February 2008 (PST)

			== Creatures Mind Control and Permanent Alien Control ==

			In the X-Com UFO Defense version for Windows, you don´t have to use MC on all 4-squares of the creature. Just Control two squares, and the creature is yours.

			I also tried the Permanent Alien Control Trick (MC Alien who can be stunned, use Mini Launcher to stun him, them wake him up using Med-Kit). It didn´t work.

			Also, on the Permanent Alien Control trick, you can only use the Mini Launcher, since you can´t use the stun rod on friendly (MC´d) units.

Arrow Quivershaft: Response to Seb76

2008-02-15T23:36:17Z

Response to Seb76

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	I have the impression that when MC'd, the controlled unit has not only full TUs, but also its energy is increased (using offset 0x23 of UNITREF.DAT). It won't go over the base energy level though. [[User:Seb76\|Seb76]] 14:42, 15 February 2008 (PST)		I have the impression that when MC'd, the controlled unit has not only full TUs, but also its energy is increased (using offset 0x23 of UNITREF.DAT). It won't go over the base energy level though. [[User:Seb76\|Seb76]] 14:42, 15 February 2008 (PST)

			:That may well be true, on thought. The easiest way for the MC code to perform would be for the computer to simulate that the newly MC'd unit just started it's turn. It also avoids nasty issues of one side running its troops to exhaustion and either accidentally or even deliberately preventing the other side from effectively using the Psissie. Zombie will probably run tests as soon as he sees this. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 15:36, 15 February 2008 (PST)

Seb76 at 22:42, 15 February 2008

2008-02-15T22:42:02Z

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	:It's interesting to note that you retain a tiny modicum of "control" (or at least benefit) from aliens you MCed the previous turn - from their [[Night_Missions#Personal_lighting\|Personal_lighting]]. But this is probably an oversight in how viewscape updating or personal lighting checks are done, nothing more. - [[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 18:54, 17 October 2007 (PDT)		:It's interesting to note that you retain a tiny modicum of "control" (or at least benefit) from aliens you MCed the previous turn - from their [[Night_Missions#Personal_lighting\|Personal_lighting]]. But this is probably an oversight in how viewscape updating or personal lighting checks are done, nothing more. - [[User:MikeTheRed\|MikeTheRed]] 18:54, 17 October 2007 (PDT)

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			I have the impression that when MC'd, the controlled unit has not only full TUs, but also its energy is increased (using offset 0x23 of UNITREF.DAT). It won't go over the base energy level though. [[User:Seb76\|Seb76]] 14:42, 15 February 2008 (PST)