Talk:Melee Accuracy - Revision history

Spike: /* Laser Squad holdover */

2010-09-26T18:42:03Z

Laser Squad holdover

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	Just a bit of trivia: I'm almost certain this stat goes back to X-com's spiritual predecessor, Laser Squad. In that game, every soldier had a Close Combat stat and all weapons could be used for melee attacks. It was quite detailed actually - e.g. a pistol was more accurate than a rifle butt, but it also did less damage. --[[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] 17:43, 24 September 2010 (EDT)		Just a bit of trivia: I'm almost certain this stat goes back to X-com's spiritual predecessor, Laser Squad. In that game, every soldier had a Close Combat stat and all weapons could be used for melee attacks. It was quite detailed actually - e.g. a pistol was more accurate than a rifle butt, but it also did less damage. --[[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] 17:43, 24 September 2010 (EDT)
			:Very likely. What a shame it was not properly implemented in UFO:EU. Luckily we have Seb76's melee patch! [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 14:42, 26 September 2010 (EDT)

Darkpast: /* Laser Squad holdover */

2010-09-24T21:43:27Z

Laser Squad holdover

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	== Laser Squad holdover ==		== Laser Squad holdover ==

	Just a bit of trivia: I'm almost certain this stat goes back to X-com's spiritual predecessor, Laser Squad. In that game, every soldier had a Close Combat stat and all weapons could be used for melee attacks. It was quite detailed actually - e.g. a pistol was more accurate than a rifle butt, but it also did less damage.		Just a bit of trivia: I'm almost certain this stat goes back to X-com's spiritual predecessor, Laser Squad. In that game, every soldier had a Close Combat stat and all weapons could be used for melee attacks. It was quite detailed actually - e.g. a pistol was more accurate than a rifle butt, but it also did less damage. --[[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] 17:43, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

Darkpast at 21:43, 24 September 2010

2010-09-24T21:43:14Z

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	: Oh, it's in OBDATA.DAT at offset 41. Base accuracy for the Vibro Blade is 150% while it's 160% for both of the lances. I suspect the reason for the exorbitant weapon accuracy is to make up for the very low base soldier melee stat (20-40%). But even with this the BCTH still hovers between 30-60% with the Vibre Blade and 32-64% with the lances. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 15:15, 9 March 2009 (CDT)		: Oh, it's in OBDATA.DAT at offset 41. Base accuracy for the Vibro Blade is 150% while it's 160% for both of the lances. I suspect the reason for the exorbitant weapon accuracy is to make up for the very low base soldier melee stat (20-40%). But even with this the BCTH still hovers between 30-60% with the Vibre Blade and 32-64% with the lances. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 15:15, 9 March 2009 (CDT)

			== Laser Squad holdover ==

			Just a bit of trivia: I'm almost certain this stat goes back to X-com's spiritual predecessor, Laser Squad. In that game, every soldier had a Close Combat stat and all weapons could be used for melee attacks. It was quite detailed actually - e.g. a pistol was more accurate than a rifle butt, but it also did less damage.

Zombie: Another little bit on BCTH.

2009-03-09T20:20:13Z

Another little bit on BCTH.

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	::Excellent! And what is the weapons' base accuracy stat? We don't seem to have them on the UFOPaedia. I can't even seem to find them inspecting OBDATA.DAT (maybe TFTD has a different format?). [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 14:55, 9 March 2009 (CDT)		::Excellent! And what is the weapons' base accuracy stat? We don't seem to have them on the UFOPaedia. I can't even seem to find them inspecting OBDATA.DAT (maybe TFTD has a different format?). [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 14:55, 9 March 2009 (CDT)

	: Oh, it's in OBDATA.DAT at offset 41. Base accuracy for the Vibro Blade is 150% while it's 160% for both of the lances. I suspect the reason for the exorbitant weapon accuracy is to make up for the very low base soldier ~~stats~~ (20-40%). --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 15:15, 9 March 2009 (CDT)		: Oh, it's in OBDATA.DAT at offset 41. Base accuracy for the Vibro Blade is 150% while it's 160% for both of the lances. I suspect the reason for the exorbitant weapon accuracy is to make up for the very low base soldier melee stat (20-40%). But even with this the BCTH still hovers between 30-60% with the Vibre Blade and 32-64% with the lances. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 15:15, 9 March 2009 (CDT)

Zombie: Reply to Spike.

2009-03-09T20:15:32Z

Reply to Spike.

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	::Excellent! And what is the weapons' base accuracy stat? We don't seem to have them on the UFOPaedia. I can't even seem to find them inspecting OBDATA.DAT (maybe TFTD has a different format?). [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 14:55, 9 March 2009 (CDT)		::Excellent! And what is the weapons' base accuracy stat? We don't seem to have them on the UFOPaedia. I can't even seem to find them inspecting OBDATA.DAT (maybe TFTD has a different format?). [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 14:55, 9 March 2009 (CDT)

			: Oh, it's in OBDATA.DAT at offset 41. Base accuracy for the Vibro Blade is 150% while it's 160% for both of the lances. I suspect the reason for the exorbitant weapon accuracy is to make up for the very low base soldier stats (20-40%). --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 15:15, 9 March 2009 (CDT)

Spike: Reply to Zombie - where is base melee weapon accuracy stat published?

2009-03-09T19:55:51Z

Reply to Zombie - where is base melee weapon accuracy stat published?

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	:Yes, the Melee Accuracy of the soldier using the weapon is actually used now in a Base Chance To Hit (BCTH) determination along with the weapons accuracy stat. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 14:52, 9 March 2009 (CDT)		:Yes, the Melee Accuracy of the soldier using the weapon is actually used now in a Base Chance To Hit (BCTH) determination along with the weapons accuracy stat. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 14:52, 9 March 2009 (CDT)

			::Excellent! And what is the weapons' base accuracy stat? We don't seem to have them on the UFOPaedia. I can't even seem to find them inspecting OBDATA.DAT (maybe TFTD has a different format?). [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 14:55, 9 March 2009 (CDT)

Zombie: Reply to Jasonred.

2009-03-09T19:52:56Z

Reply to Jasonred.

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	Can anyone enlighten me on how this works in TFTD? The main article here is a bit vague. Is there a % Hit chance attached to the action, like there is with a firearm? Is the Melee Accuracy stat used? Is the weapon stat multiplied by the Accuracy stat, as per normal? Or is it just an automatic hit, every time, like the Stun Rod in XCOM Enemy Unknown? [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 12:59, 9 March 2009 (CDT)		Can anyone enlighten me on how this works in TFTD? The main article here is a bit vague. Is there a % Hit chance attached to the action, like there is with a firearm? Is the Melee Accuracy stat used? Is the weapon stat multiplied by the Accuracy stat, as per normal? Or is it just an automatic hit, every time, like the Stun Rod in XCOM Enemy Unknown? [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 12:59, 9 March 2009 (CDT)

			:Yes, the Melee Accuracy of the soldier using the weapon is actually used now in a Base Chance To Hit (BCTH) determination along with the weapons accuracy stat. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 14:52, 9 March 2009 (CDT)

Spike: New section: Melee Accuracy in TFTD?

2009-03-09T17:59:52Z

New section: Melee Accuracy in TFTD?

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	Hmm, it seems rather counter-intuitive that you would get a melee accuracy bonus for kneeling. But I suppose whether it applies depends on whether the designers thought of this detail. --[[User:Captain Foo\|Captain Foo]] 09:37, 1 September 2008 (PDT)		Hmm, it seems rather counter-intuitive that you would get a melee accuracy bonus for kneeling. But I suppose whether it applies depends on whether the designers thought of this detail. --[[User:Captain Foo\|Captain Foo]] 09:37, 1 September 2008 (PDT)

			== Melee Accuracy in TFTD? ==

			Can anyone enlighten me on how this works in TFTD? The main article here is a bit vague. Is there a % Hit chance attached to the action, like there is with a firearm? Is the Melee Accuracy stat used? Is the weapon stat multiplied by the Accuracy stat, as per normal? Or is it just an automatic hit, every time, like the Stun Rod in XCOM Enemy Unknown? [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 12:59, 9 March 2009 (CDT)

Captain Foo: New page: Hmm, it seems rather counter-intuitive that you would get a melee accuracy bonus for kneeling. But I suppose whether it applies depends on whether the designers thought of this detail. --...

2008-09-01T16:37:48Z

New page: Hmm, it seems rather counter-intuitive that you would get a melee accuracy bonus for kneeling. But I suppose whether it applies depends on whether the designers thought of this detail. --...

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Hmm, it seems rather counter-intuitive that you would get a melee accuracy bonus for kneeling. But I suppose whether it applies depends on whether the designers thought of this detail. --[[User:Captain Foo|Captain Foo]] 09:37, 1 September 2008 (PDT)