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Hobbes: /* Aborting an enemy mission? */

2022-10-27T13:39:14Z

Aborting an enemy mission?

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	Is there any way to abort an enemy mission, or will it always run through every ship in the list, and ultimtely succeed?		Is there any way to abort an enemy mission, or will it always run through every ship in the list, and ultimtely succeed?
			: They'll always run through every ship in the list.

	In particular, once an infiltration mission starts, will some country always defect no matter what?		In particular, once an infiltration mission starts, will some country always defect no matter what?
			: Once an infiltration starts in a country, it will defect, and in the next montn another country in the same continent will be infiltrated until there's no more countries left in that continent. (exception: Russia can never defect)

	Once a terror mission starts, will some city always be terrorized no matter what?		Once a terror mission starts, will some city always be terrorized no matter what?
			: Yes, unless you shoot down the final Terror Ship that is spawned for the actual terror attack.

	Once a base construction mission starts, will a base always be built?		Once a base construction mission starts, will a base always be built?
			: Yes.

	Destroying scouts and other ships will delay these; is there any way to actually prevent them?		Destroying scouts and other ships will delay these; is there any way to actually prevent them?
			: No.

	Similarly, will base retaliation missions eventually always succeed?		Similarly, will base retaliation missions eventually always succeed?
			: No. The Battleship on Retaliation missions is only launched if the previous scouts detect an XCOM base.

	[[User:Keybounce\|Keybounce]] ([[User talk:Keybounce\|talk]]) 07:13, 23 October 2022 (CEST)		[[User:Keybounce\|Keybounce]] ([[User talk:Keybounce\|talk]]) 07:13, 23 October 2022 (CEST)
			:[[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] ([[User talk:Hobbes\|talk]]) 15:39, 27 October 2022 (CEST)

Keybounce: Forgot to sign it

2022-10-23T05:13:51Z

Forgot to sign it

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	Similarly, will base retaliation missions eventually always succeed?		Similarly, will base retaliation missions eventually always succeed?

			[[User:Keybounce\|Keybounce]] ([[User talk:Keybounce\|talk]]) 07:13, 23 October 2022 (CEST)

Keybounce: /* Aborting an enemy mission? */ new section

2022-10-23T05:11:56Z

Aborting an enemy mission?: new section

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	As such, I'm going to move all the times given (which are correct, but misinterpreted) down one row, and put question-marks in the top row (since I don't actually know most of them, except Terror which I empirically know to always be 2.5h). [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 08:46, 31 August 2019 (CEST)		As such, I'm going to move all the times given (which are correct, but misinterpreted) down one row, and put question-marks in the top row (since I don't actually know most of them, except Terror which I empirically know to always be 2.5h). [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 08:46, 31 August 2019 (CEST)

			== Aborting an enemy mission? ==

			Is there any way to abort an enemy mission, or will it always run through every ship in the list, and ultimtely succeed?

			In particular, once an infiltration mission starts, will some country always defect no matter what?

			Once a terror mission starts, will some city always be terrorized no matter what?

			Once a base construction mission starts, will a base always be built?

			Destroying scouts and other ships will delay these; is there any way to actually prevent them?

			Similarly, will base retaliation missions eventually always succeed?

Magic9mushroom: /* Something's off with Zombie's numbers */ gotcha

2019-08-31T06:46:40Z

Something's off with Zombie's numbers: gotcha

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	I hate to contradict the great Zombie, but the countdown timers here seem to have an off-by-one. The numbers as they are now predict a 3x Abductor flotilla for Abduction, a 2xLarge Scout+Terror+Supply+2xBB flotilla for Infiltration, and a Medium Scout+Large Scout+2xSupply+BB flotilla for Base, but in all three cases the first of those is not actually part of the flotilla. We need to fix this, but I'm not sure how because I don't know where the data is in GEOSCAPE.EXE (I have DOS version). Can anyone help me out here? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 07:34, 31 August 2019 (CEST)		I hate to contradict the great Zombie, but the countdown timers here seem to have an off-by-one. The numbers as they are now predict a 3x Abductor flotilla for Abduction, a 2xLarge Scout+Terror+Supply+2xBB flotilla for Infiltration, and a Medium Scout+Large Scout+2xSupply+BB flotilla for Base, but in all three cases the first of those is not actually part of the flotilla. We need to fix this, but I'm not sure how because I don't know where the data is in GEOSCAPE.EXE (I have DOS version). Can anyone help me out here? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 07:34, 31 August 2019 (CEST)

			Okay, I've got it. It ''is'' an off-by-one. The time index associated with a UFO in the data files is not the countdown timer to that UFO. It's the amount of time ''added'' to the countdown timer when that UFO is spawned - i.e. the timer for the ''next'' UFO. The countdown timer for the first UFO in the mission is presumably set during mission creation, and is not stored with the rest of the mission data (this explains why it can be different for the first vs. subsequent Alien Research missions, as that one is not generated in the usual fashion).

			As such, I'm going to move all the times given (which are correct, but misinterpreted) down one row, and put question-marks in the top row (since I don't actually know most of them, except Terror which I empirically know to always be 2.5h). [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 08:46, 31 August 2019 (CEST)

Magic9mushroom: /* Something's off with Zombie's numbers */ new section

2019-08-31T05:34:05Z

Something's off with Zombie's numbers: new section

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	--[[User:Tlist\|Tlist]] ([[User talk:Tlist\|talk]]) 13:46, 25 May 2014 (EDT)		--[[User:Tlist\|Tlist]] ([[User talk:Tlist\|talk]]) 13:46, 25 May 2014 (EDT)

			== Something's off with Zombie's numbers ==

			I hate to contradict the great Zombie, but the countdown timers here seem to have an off-by-one. The numbers as they are now predict a 3x Abductor flotilla for Abduction, a 2xLarge Scout+Terror+Supply+2xBB flotilla for Infiltration, and a Medium Scout+Large Scout+2xSupply+BB flotilla for Base, but in all three cases the first of those is not actually part of the flotilla. We need to fix this, but I'm not sure how because I don't know where the data is in GEOSCAPE.EXE (I have DOS version). Can anyone help me out here? [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 07:34, 31 August 2019 (CEST)

Zombie: /* Alien missions data discovered in geoscape.exe [finally ;-)] */

2018-07-31T04:11:54Z

Alien missions data discovered in geoscape.exe [finally ;-)]

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	8 Destroy <nowiki>[X-COM]</nowiki> base		8 Destroy <nowiki>[X-COM]</nowiki> base
	9 Base Supply		9 Base Supply
	--[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] ([[User talk:Zombie\|talk]]) 06:10, 31 July 2018 (CEST)
			--[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] ([[User talk:Zombie\|talk]]) 06:10, 31 July 2018 (CEST)

	==Clarification pls==		==Clarification pls==

Zombie: /* Alien missions data discovered in geoscape.exe [finally ;-)] */

2018-07-31T04:10:37Z

Alien missions data discovered in geoscape.exe [finally ;-)]

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 --[[User:Volutar|Volutar]] 05:59, 14 April 2011 (EDT)
 ==Clarification pls==

Tlist: Signed Comment

2014-05-25T17:46:26Z

Signed Comment

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	\| 298 \|\| Retaliation in Wilderness		\| 298 \|\| Retaliation in Wilderness
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			--[[User:Tlist\|Tlist]] ([[User talk:Tlist\|talk]]) 13:46, 25 May 2014 (EDT)

Tlist: /* Addresses */ new section

2014-05-25T17:45:13Z

Addresses: new section

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Bomb Bloke: /* Non-scheduled Terror Missions */

2013-01-31T07:02:44Z

Non-scheduled Terror Missions

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	[[User:Sherlock\|Sherlock]] 20:24, 30 January 2013 (EST)		[[User:Sherlock\|Sherlock]] 20:24, 30 January 2013 (EST)

			:It's in [[LOC.DAT]]. As in, the terror site already existed before it became visible to you, so you actually saved AFTER the attack started. - <span style="font-size:xx-small"> [[User:Bomb_Bloke\|Bomb Bloke]] ([[User_talk:Bomb_Bloke\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Bomb_Bloke\|Contribs]])</span> 02:02, 31 January 2013 (EST)