Talk:Known Bugs (Apocalypse) - Revision history

EsTeR at 09:28, 12 May 2022

2022-05-12T09:28:50Z

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	* are both ignored?<br>		* are both ignored?<br>
	because what it looks like is that accuracy plays a part in regards to tracking weapons.		because what it looks like is that accuracy plays a part in regards to tracking weapons.
			:as a further note considering the article: the intro waffle is just... nope.

EsTeR: Reservations about "Tracking Ignores Accuracy"

2022-05-11T12:57:09Z

Reservations about "Tracking Ignores Accuracy"

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	: there is another bug you can add once you have <u>tested it and repeated it</u>: It has something to do with troops back at base, given autocannons (AC), loaded with AP ammo when you don't have any in your base!, but a craft returning (but not yet landed) has the ammo (AC+AP were used in the mission). The exploit may possbile be: before your craft lands, load up all troop still at base with all AC (AP will 'magically' be loaded), stick them on a vehicle and go land at your other base, unload all AC from troops, 'free AP ammo' (one AP clip per gun) is now avaialble.<br>		: there is another bug you can add once you have <u>tested it and repeated it</u>: It has something to do with troops back at base, given autocannons (AC), loaded with AP ammo when you don't have any in your base!, but a craft returning (but not yet landed) has the ammo (AC+AP were used in the mission). The exploit may possbile be: before your craft lands, load up all troop still at base with all AC (AP will 'magically' be loaded), stick them on a vehicle and go land at your other base, unload all AC from troops, 'free AP ammo' (one AP clip per gun) is now avaialble.<br>
	I'm having trouble repeating it since it sometimes 'loads with AP' (confirmed by mouse hover over gun) but when you remove gun at other base the AP ammo doesn't appear, sometimes it does!.		I'm having trouble repeating it since it sometimes 'loads with AP' (confirmed by mouse hover over gun) but when you remove gun at other base the AP ammo doesn't appear, sometimes it does!.

			=Tracking Ignores Accuracy=
			Real-Time: If an agent uses a rocket launcher with auto-shot, the agent shoots after about 1sec delay, however, if aimed-shot is used, the agent will fire only after about a 4sec delay, and typically hits the target (a slum wall segment) more often.<br>
			Questions:
			* is accuracy of the agent ignored?
			* is weapon accuracy ignored?
			* are both ignored?<br>
			because what it looks like is that accuracy plays a part in regards to tracking weapons.

EsTeR: a new bug to try to repeat

2022-04-21T08:33:35Z

a new bug to try to repeat

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	Set to aggressive with lasers and you have a base defense turret in the sky! ...doesn't work with road vehicles, however. <br>		Set to aggressive with lasers and you have a base defense turret in the sky! ...doesn't work with road vehicles, however. <br>
	<b> ...doesn't work with road vehicles, however. </b> <br>		<b> ...doesn't work with road vehicles, however. </b> <br>



	... my disappointment is immeasurable!!! [[User:Jasonred79\|Jasonred79]] ([[User talk:Jasonred79\|talk]]) 14:08, 14 April 2022 (CEST)		... my disappointment is immeasurable!!! [[User:Jasonred79\|Jasonred79]] ([[User talk:Jasonred79\|talk]]) 14:08, 14 April 2022 (CEST)
			: there is another bug you can add once you have <u>tested it and repeated it</u>: It has something to do with troops back at base, given autocannons (AC), loaded with AP ammo when you don't have any in your base!, but a craft returning (but not yet landed) has the ammo (AC+AP were used in the mission). The exploit may possbile be: before your craft lands, load up all troop still at base with all AC (AP will 'magically' be loaded), stick them on a vehicle and go land at your other base, unload all AC from troops, 'free AP ammo' (one AP clip per gun) is now avaialble.<br>
			I'm having trouble repeating it since it sometimes 'loads with AP' (confirmed by mouse hover over gun) but when you remove gun at other base the AP ammo doesn't appear, sometimes it does!.

EsTeR: removing stale blurb

2022-04-19T14:23:14Z

removing stale blurb

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	Skin36 is looking into it, so I may have more to report soon. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 06:03, 1 August 2020 (UTC)		Skin36 is looking into it, so I may have more to report soon. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 06:03, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

	~~== Ultrafast Time and Stupid AI ==~~
	~~aka "Time Lapse" and "Crazy Transportation"~~

	One of the fixes I made drastically helps the path routine for vehicles on the superhuman map. It is listed on my page [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]]) as '''Road War''' (disregard that anal part... WTF!). Is it policy to provide bugfixes for such on the Known Bugs page or should it be limited only to descriptions of bugs (and possibly avoidance)? Either way, I'm happy to leave it as is.


	== magic vehicles ==		== magic vehicles ==

Jasonred79: /* Big aliens issue */

2022-04-14T12:15:35Z

Big aliens issue

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	:I've had a Megaspawn hide right in front of my agents because his top half wasn't visible, even though his feet should have been in plain sight 2 squares ahead of them, so yes, this is definitely a thing. [[User:Binkyuk\|Binkyuk]] ([[User talk:Binkyuk\|talk]]) 07:34, 23 June 2015 (EDT)		:I've had a Megaspawn hide right in front of my agents because his top half wasn't visible, even though his feet should have been in plain sight 2 squares ahead of them, so yes, this is definitely a thing. [[User:Binkyuk\|Binkyuk]] ([[User talk:Binkyuk\|talk]]) 07:34, 23 June 2015 (EDT)
	Thank you. I have started writing two lines on this topic. Hmmm... it would be interesting to investigate which is the rule to establish the visibility of the aliens and why it fails so badly with Megaspawns and Psymorphs.		Thank you. I have started writing two lines on this topic. Hmmm... it would be interesting to investigate which is the rule to establish the visibility of the aliens and why it fails so badly with Megaspawns and Psymorphs.

			Yes, confirmed. I have also had the issue when trying to SHOOT at them, when at very close range, where the game insists "no line of fire" despite their legs being cleanly in view. ... I'm think that the "detection box" is somewhere around head level. Having an obstacle at megaspawn head height seems to block sight of them, blocking their legs is not a problem though.
			This seems to be most easily replicated with the Escort ship, if you try to set up an ambush on the side of the trench and bait the megaspawn out of the ship. [[User:Jasonred79\|Jasonred79]] ([[User talk:Jasonred79\|talk]]) 14:15, 14 April 2022 (CEST)

	== About Agents on more vehicles ==		== About Agents on more vehicles ==

Jasonred79 at 12:09, 14 April 2022

2022-04-14T12:09:57Z

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	One of the fixes I made drastically helps the path routine for vehicles on the superhuman map. It is listed on my page [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]]) as '''Road War''' (disregard that anal part... WTF!). Is it policy to provide bugfixes for such on the Known Bugs page or should it be limited only to descriptions of bugs (and possibly avoidance)? Either way, I'm happy to leave it as is.		One of the fixes I made drastically helps the path routine for vehicles on the superhuman map. It is listed on my page [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]]) as '''Road War''' (disregard that anal part... WTF!). Is it policy to provide bugfixes for such on the Known Bugs page or should it be limited only to descriptions of bugs (and possibly avoidance)? Either way, I'm happy to leave it as is.

	Set to aggressive with lasers and you have a base defense turret in the sky! ...doesn't work with road vehicles, however.
	<b> ...doesn't work with road vehicles, however. </b>		== magic vehicles ==

			Set to aggressive with lasers and you have a base defense turret in the sky! ...doesn't work with road vehicles, however. <br>
			<b> ...doesn't work with road vehicles, however. </b> <br>



	... my disappointment is immeasurable!!! [[User:Jasonred79\|Jasonred79]] ([[User talk:Jasonred79\|talk]]) 14:08, 14 April 2022 (CEST)		... my disappointment is immeasurable!!! [[User:Jasonred79\|Jasonred79]] ([[User talk:Jasonred79\|talk]]) 14:08, 14 April 2022 (CEST)

Jasonred79 at 12:08, 14 April 2022

2022-04-14T12:08:38Z

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	One of the fixes I made drastically helps the path routine for vehicles on the superhuman map. It is listed on my page [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]]) as '''Road War''' (disregard that anal part... WTF!). Is it policy to provide bugfixes for such on the Known Bugs page or should it be limited only to descriptions of bugs (and possibly avoidance)? Either way, I'm happy to leave it as is.		One of the fixes I made drastically helps the path routine for vehicles on the superhuman map. It is listed on my page [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]]) as '''Road War''' (disregard that anal part... WTF!). Is it policy to provide bugfixes for such on the Known Bugs page or should it be limited only to descriptions of bugs (and possibly avoidance)? Either way, I'm happy to leave it as is.

			Set to aggressive with lasers and you have a base defense turret in the sky! ...doesn't work with road vehicles, however.
			<b> ...doesn't work with road vehicles, however. </b>

			... my disappointment is immeasurable!!! [[User:Jasonred79\|Jasonred79]] ([[User talk:Jasonred79\|talk]]) 14:08, 14 April 2022 (CEST)

EsTeR at 13:36, 22 March 2022

2022-03-22T13:36:36Z

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	However, I don't know if you need the original CD or if it also is enough to burn the .iso file from the digital distributions (Steam/GoG) onto a CD and just use that then. [[User:Bard\|Bard]] ([[User talk:Bard\|talk]]) 07:30, 18 November 2019 (CET)		However, I don't know if you need the original CD or if it also is enough to burn the .iso file from the digital distributions (Steam/GoG) onto a CD and just use that then. [[User:Bard\|Bard]] ([[User talk:Bard\|talk]]) 07:30, 18 November 2019 (CET)

	~~== New Bug Found ==~~

	~~Details on my page [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]])~~

	== Whining ==		== Whining ==

EsTeR: QUESTION: should I insert a bugfix which needs an editor to fix or is it too technical for page?

2020-08-05T17:25:27Z

QUESTION: should I insert a bugfix which needs an editor to fix or is it too technical for page?

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	Skin36 is looking into it, so I may have more to report soon. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 06:03, 1 August 2020 (UTC)		Skin36 is looking into it, so I may have more to report soon. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 06:03, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

			== Ultrafast Time and Stupid AI ==
			aka "Time Lapse" and "Crazy Transportation"

			One of the fixes I made drastically helps the path routine for vehicles on the superhuman map. It is listed on my page [[User:EsTeR\|EsTeR]] ([[User talk:EsTeR\|talk]]) as '''Road War''' (disregard that anal part... WTF!). Is it policy to provide bugfixes for such on the Known Bugs page or should it be limited only to descriptions of bugs (and possibly avoidance)? Either way, I'm happy to leave it as is.

Magic9mushroom: /* Security Stations in turn-based mode */ new section

2020-08-01T06:03:22Z

Security Stations in turn-based mode: new section

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	A fix for this previously existed (see that thread), but it's been lost. If anybody has a patch for this (or even guidelines for hex-editing it out), it would be very handy. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 10:08, 22 July 2020 (UTC)		A fix for this previously existed (see that thread), but it's been lost. If anybody has a patch for this (or even guidelines for hex-editing it out), it would be very handy. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 10:08, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

			== Security Stations in turn-based mode ==

			I don't think their TU is refreshed properly. This means they get a grand total of 25% of one turn's TU for an entire battle - hence their disappointing performance.

			Skin36 is looking into it, so I may have more to report soon. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 06:03, 1 August 2020 (UTC)