Talk:Damage Modifiers (TFTD) - Revision history

Spike: /* Zombie modifiers */

2012-10-05T14:01:41Z

Zombie modifiers

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	Zombie modifiers are not given in this table. Is it safe to use the ones given in the EU/TFTD combined [[Zombie]] article or in EU [[Damage Modifiers]]? [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 10:22, 4 October 2012 (EDT)		Zombie modifiers are not given in this table. Is it safe to use the ones given in the EU/TFTD combined [[Zombie]] article or in EU [[Damage Modifiers]]? [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 10:22, 4 October 2012 (EDT)
			: I added the values. Not sure about Electric damage modifier for Zombies? [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 10:01, 5 October 2012 (EDT)

Spike: /* Zombie modifiers */ new section

2012-10-04T14:22:51Z

Zombie modifiers: new section

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			== Zombie modifiers ==

			Zombie modifiers are not given in this table. Is it safe to use the ones given in the EU/TFTD combined [[Zombie]] article or in EU [[Damage Modifiers]]? [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 10:22, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

Pwwwa: /* External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ? */

2009-12-04T13:07:08Z

External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ?

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	DOS v.1.0		DOS v.1.0
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			- [[User:Pwwwa\|Pwwwa]] 08:06, 4 December 2009 (EST)

Pwwwa: /* External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ? */

2009-12-04T13:06:34Z

External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ?

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			DOS v.1.0
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Bomb Bloke: /* External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ? */

2009-12-01T07:07:15Z

External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ?

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	- [[User:Bomb Bloke\|Bomb Bloke]] 17:55, 30 November 2009 (EST)		- [[User:Bomb Bloke\|Bomb Bloke]] 17:55, 30 November 2009 (EST)

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			Just tried setting the HE DM to 0% for all targets, terrain or otherwise, and set off a 255 power sonic pulsar by a USO. It still wiped out most of the area, so I really dunno what's going on there - that doesn't match your observations at all. This was with CE; what version of the game are you running?

			- [[User:Bomb Bloke\|Bomb Bloke]] 02:07, 1 December 2009 (EST)

Bomb Bloke: /* External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ? */ HR breaks foreva!

2009-11-30T22:55:13Z

External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ?: HR breaks foreva!

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 - [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 06:49, 28 November 2009 (EST)
-:As Bomb Bloke mentioned, terrain objects have an armor which needs to be breached in order to destroy it. In the case of conventional firearms, they do between 25%-75% of it's listed damage. Most USO hulls have an armor rating of 100 which equates to a minimum weapon strength of 134 to destroy it (400 to kill it all the time which is impossible in this example due to the variable having a max of 255). Anyway, I just edited the Dart Pistol to deal 200pts of AP damage and went on a USO mission. The shots went through the hull most of the time. After editing the AP damage for terrain to be 0, the shots never made it through the hull. So the damage modifiers work, you just have to know how damage works in order to anticipate the result. ;) --[[User:Zombie|Zombie]] 23:09, 28 November 2009 (EST)
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 <b>to Zombie</b> Well, I meant another case: High-Explosives  do 50% of damage to any terrain object (and 50-150% for another) => there are 200+ points of damage is need for destruction of external USO`s wall. According the logic, if we set up HE damage modifier for terrain is 200% => any HE warhead needs 100+ points of damage for crushing the USO`s Shell. But that doesn't work!
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Pwwwa: /* External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ? */

2009-11-30T17:27:56Z

External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ?

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	<pre>		<pre>
	Test`s results:		Test`s results:
	- Magna-Pack with 199pts of Damage and ~~255~~% HE Damage Modifier for Terrain can`t to destruct USO`s Shell;		- Magna-Pack with 199pts of Damage and 200% HE Damage Modifier for Terrain can`t to destruct USO`s Shell;
	- Magna-Pack With 255pts of damage and 0% (!!!) HE Damage Modifier for Terrain is destruct USO`s Shell, but not for another ambiance.		- Magna-Pack With 255pts of damage and 0% (!!!) HE Damage Modifier for Terrain is destruct USO`s Shell, but not for another ambiance.
	==> External Walls don't use Terrain DM for Hi-Explosive.		==> External Walls don't use Terrain DM for Hi-Explosive.
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	[[User:Pwwwa\|Pwwwa]] 12:10, 30 November 2009 (EST)		[[User:Pwwwa\|Pwwwa]] 12:10, 30 November 2009 (EST)

Pwwwa: /* External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ? */

2009-11-30T17:10:45Z

External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ?

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	:As Bomb Bloke mentioned, terrain objects have an armor which needs to be breached in order to destroy it. In the case of conventional firearms, they do between 25%-75% of it's listed damage. Most USO hulls have an armor rating of 100 which equates to a minimum weapon strength of 134 to destroy it (400 to kill it all the time which is impossible in this example due to the variable having a max of 255). Anyway, I just edited the Dart Pistol to deal 200pts of AP damage and went on a USO mission. The shots went through the hull most of the time. After editing the AP damage for terrain to be 0, the shots never made it through the hull. So the damage modifiers work, you just have to know how damage works in order to anticipate the result. ;) --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 23:09, 28 November 2009 (EST)		:As Bomb Bloke mentioned, terrain objects have an armor which needs to be breached in order to destroy it. In the case of conventional firearms, they do between 25%-75% of it's listed damage. Most USO hulls have an armor rating of 100 which equates to a minimum weapon strength of 134 to destroy it (400 to kill it all the time which is impossible in this example due to the variable having a max of 255). Anyway, I just edited the Dart Pistol to deal 200pts of AP damage and went on a USO mission. The shots went through the hull most of the time. After editing the AP damage for terrain to be 0, the shots never made it through the hull. So the damage modifiers work, you just have to know how damage works in order to anticipate the result. ;) --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 23:09, 28 November 2009 (EST)

			<b>to Zombie</b> Well, I meant another case: High-Explosives do 50% of damage to any terrain object (and 50-150% for another) => there are 200+ points of damage is need for destruction of external USO`s wall. According the logic, if we set up HE damage modifier for terrain is 200% => any HE warhead needs 100+ points of damage for crushing the USO`s Shell. But that doesn't work!
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			Test`s results:
			- Magna-Pack with 199pts of Damage and 255% HE Damage Modifier for Terrain can`t to destruct USO`s Shell;
			- Magna-Pack With 255pts of damage and 0% (!!!) HE Damage Modifier for Terrain is destruct USO`s Shell, but not for another ambiance.
			==> External Walls don't use Terrain DM for Hi-Explosive.
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			[[User:Pwwwa\|Pwwwa]] 12:10, 30 November 2009 (EST)

Pwwwa: /* External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ? */

2009-11-30T15:27:45Z

External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ?

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	Hi There! Does anyone know what type of damage modifier uses for External Alien USO Shell and Colony Walls. Some tests shows that there is not Terrain Damage Modifiers (Terrain DM works only for aquatic/surface/ship ambiance, but not for Colony and USO external shells.) Any Ideas ?		Hi There! Does anyone know what type of damage modifier uses for External Alien USO Shell and Colony Walls. Some tests shows that there is not Terrain Damage Modifiers (Terrain DM works only for aquatic/surface/ship ambiance, but not for Colony and USO external shells.) Any Ideas ?

	- Best Regards, ~~PwwwA.~~		Best Regards, [[User:Pwwwa\|Pwwwa]] 10:27, 30 November 2009 (EST)

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Zombie: /* External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ? */ Reply.

2009-11-29T04:09:05Z

External USO Shell / Colony Wall type of Armour ?: Reply.

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	- [[User:Bomb Bloke\|Bomb Bloke]] 06:49, 28 November 2009 (EST)		- [[User:Bomb Bloke\|Bomb Bloke]] 06:49, 28 November 2009 (EST)

			:As Bomb Bloke mentioned, terrain objects have an armor which needs to be breached in order to destroy it. In the case of conventional firearms, they do between 25%-75% of it's listed damage. Most USO hulls have an armor rating of 100 which equates to a minimum weapon strength of 134 to destroy it (400 to kill it all the time which is impossible in this example due to the variable having a max of 255). Anyway, I just edited the Dart Pistol to deal 200pts of AP damage and went on a USO mission. The shots went through the hull most of the time. After editing the AP damage for terrain to be 0, the shots never made it through the hull. So the damage modifiers work, you just have to know how damage works in order to anticipate the result. ;) --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 23:09, 28 November 2009 (EST)