Talk:Cyberdisc - Revision history

Magic9mushroom: /* Live Specimen */ flagging something that could use a check

2023-11-09T06:59:15Z

Live Specimen: flagging something that could use a check

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	I've heard that if you mind control them and keep them until the end of the battle, you can get a live Specimen ([[User talk:Urailar\|Urailar]])		I've heard that if you mind control them and keep them until the end of the battle, you can get a live Specimen ([[User talk:Urailar\|Urailar]])

			:This one actually is worth testing on the PlayStation version. I know it can't possibly work on the PC versions because the battle won't end until the 'Disc is killed or stunned (either of which are known to give corpses), but on the PS version MCed aliens are captured alive if there are no un-MCed aliens remaining and it's worth checking whether that respects the "robotic" flag or not. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 07:59, 9 November 2023 (CET)

	== You can capture cyberdiscs. ==		== You can capture cyberdiscs. ==

Magic9mushroom: /* Stun Bombs vs. Detonation */

2018-02-09T12:30:13Z

Stun Bombs vs. Detonation

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	:It's not (entirely) a MC issue. Early on, before I even had psi labs, I took one down safely with a small launcher. It wasn't previously damaged (I don't think, unless I missed and hit it off-screen). Importantly, I didn't hit it dead-on; the stun bomb landed next to it. Totally random idea but could it have to do with where the stun bomb lands in relation to it, kind of like how grenades can destroy each other? Seems unlikely, but hey. This was on Beginner, and using UFOExtender which I guess might throw everything off. [[User:Sowelu\|Sowelu]] 03:33, 3 March 2011 (EST)		:It's not (entirely) a MC issue. Early on, before I even had psi labs, I took one down safely with a small launcher. It wasn't previously damaged (I don't think, unless I missed and hit it off-screen). Importantly, I didn't hit it dead-on; the stun bomb landed next to it. Totally random idea but could it have to do with where the stun bomb lands in relation to it, kind of like how grenades can destroy each other? Seems unlikely, but hey. This was on Beginner, and using UFOExtender which I guess might throw everything off. [[User:Sowelu\|Sowelu]] 03:33, 3 March 2011 (EST)

			Doing a Superhuman run (DOS version, unmodified except to hex-edit the Difficulty Bug out) at the moment, and stunned a couple of Cyberdiscs with a Small Launcher. They didn't explode. One had been damaged with Laser Rifles, one hadn't. The one I shot with Laser Rifles only did explode. No Psi involved. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 13:30, 9 February 2018 (CET)

	==MCed Cyberdisc MAD suggestion==		==MCed Cyberdisc MAD suggestion==

Magic9mushroom: /* My experience */

2015-05-17T10:10:34Z

My experience

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	==My experience==		==My experience==

	Just finished a Superhuman Sectoid Terror Mission in January (Tank/Rocket Launcher and 10 guys with Laser Rifles went in; 7 turns later 5 guys with Laser Rifles came out) and honestly I think Cyberdisc explosions are a blessing. On Superhuman, the aliens are crammed in so tightly that you usually hear Sectoid death moans every time a Cyberdisc falls, which reduces the volume of fire you need to put out to a manageable level (because you only have to shoot the Cyberdemons... um, I mean Cyberdiscs until they die instead of spending all your TU shooting them and then having to kill the Sectoids as well. And when there are Cyberdiscs literally jammed in next to each other (ever seen the inside of a Sectoid Terror Ship?) the explosion means it's only 1-1.5x the work to kill two Cyberdiscs rather than 2x. Don't get me wrong, Cyberdiscs are half the reason Sectoid Terror Missions are such hell, but they'd be much worse if they didn't explode.		Just finished a Superhuman Sectoid Terror Mission in January (Tank/Rocket Launcher and 10 guys with Laser Rifles went in; 7 turns later 5 guys with Laser Rifles came out) and honestly I think Cyberdisc explosions are a blessing. On Superhuman, the aliens are crammed in so tightly that you usually hear Sectoid death moans every time a Cyberdisc falls, which reduces the volume of fire you need to put out to a manageable level (because you only have to shoot the Cyberdemons... um, I mean Cyberdiscs until they die instead of spending all your TU shooting them and then having to kill the Sectoids as well). And when there are Cyberdiscs literally jammed in next to each other (ever seen the inside of a Sectoid Terror Ship?) the explosion means it's only 1-1.5x the work to kill two Cyberdiscs rather than 2x. Don't get me wrong, Cyberdiscs are half the reason Sectoid Terror Missions are such hell, but they'd be much worse if they didn't explode.

	(The Sectoid Leader in this particular mission wasn't killed by a Cyberdisc explosion, but by a Cyberdisc shooting at my tank, missing, and the shot going past the tank and through a window to hit the Leader holed up inside a building. Guess Murphy's Laws of X-Com apply to aliens, too?) [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 06:09, 17 May 2015 (EDT)		(The Sectoid Leader in this particular mission wasn't killed by a Cyberdisc explosion, but by a Cyberdisc shooting at my tank, missing, and the shot going past the tank and through a window to hit the Leader holed up inside a building. Guess Murphy's Laws of X-Com apply to aliens, too?) [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 06:09, 17 May 2015 (EDT)

Magic9mushroom at 10:09, 17 May 2015

2015-05-17T10:09:43Z

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	:You're looking for [[Cyberdisc (EU2012)]], if you are talking about XCOM: Enemy Unknown ;) [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 23:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)		:You're looking for [[Cyberdisc (EU2012)]], if you are talking about XCOM: Enemy Unknown ;) [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 23:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
	::thanks! this sort of oversight is exactly why i learned to leave comments before taking full advantage of edit power :) [[User:Apocalypse.underground\|Apocalypse.underground]] 21:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)		::thanks! this sort of oversight is exactly why i learned to leave comments before taking full advantage of edit power :) [[User:Apocalypse.underground\|Apocalypse.underground]] 21:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)

			==My experience==

			Just finished a Superhuman Sectoid Terror Mission in January (Tank/Rocket Launcher and 10 guys with Laser Rifles went in; 7 turns later 5 guys with Laser Rifles came out) and honestly I think Cyberdisc explosions are a blessing. On Superhuman, the aliens are crammed in so tightly that you usually hear Sectoid death moans every time a Cyberdisc falls, which reduces the volume of fire you need to put out to a manageable level (because you only have to shoot the Cyberdemons... um, I mean Cyberdiscs until they die instead of spending all your TU shooting them and then having to kill the Sectoids as well. And when there are Cyberdiscs literally jammed in next to each other (ever seen the inside of a Sectoid Terror Ship?) the explosion means it's only 1-1.5x the work to kill two Cyberdiscs rather than 2x. Don't get me wrong, Cyberdiscs are half the reason Sectoid Terror Missions are such hell, but they'd be much worse if they didn't explode.

			(The Sectoid Leader in this particular mission wasn't killed by a Cyberdisc explosion, but by a Cyberdisc shooting at my tank, missing, and the shot going past the tank and through a window to hit the Leader holed up inside a building. Guess Murphy's Laws of X-Com apply to aliens, too?) [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 06:09, 17 May 2015 (EDT)

Magic9mushroom: /* Cyberdisc vs. Tanks */

2015-05-16T06:10:26Z

Cyberdisc vs. Tanks

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	:Agreed, but redundancy is good. I usually stack 10 men in the Avenger and 4 Plasma hovertanks. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 21:23, 1 March 2009 (CST)		:Agreed, but redundancy is good. I usually stack 10 men in the Avenger and 4 Plasma hovertanks. [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 21:23, 1 March 2009 (CST)

			Bit late to the party here, but I think the rocket tank is still preferable. Why? Well, because your tank is highly unlikely to actually survive long enough to run out. Cyberdiscs' plasma cannons are pretty much designed for reducing tanks to scrap and their Reactions and Firing Accuracy are exceptional; one tank is hardly going to carry the mission against 6-10 Cyberdiscs. You're going to need lasers. And I'd prefer a rocket tank and a laser dude to a cannon tank and a rocket dude on a Sectoid terror mission. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 02:10, 16 May 2015 (EDT)

	== Live Specimen ==		== Live Specimen ==

Apocalypse.underground: /* one more instance */

2013-09-24T01:40:34Z

one more instance

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	these can appear in Abduction missions too, not just Terror (now playing my first Classic run-through, after a Normal game in which they debuted in Terror). I checked the Terror mission entry but didn't find Abductions to be a 'subset', so this is a suggestion that Alien Abduction be added to the list of appearances. [[User:Apocalypse.underground\|Apocalypse.underground]] 20:13, 22 September 2013 (EDT)		these can appear in Abduction missions too, not just Terror (now playing my first Classic run-through, after a Normal game in which they debuted in Terror). I checked the Terror mission entry but didn't find Abductions to be a 'subset', so this is a suggestion that Alien Abduction be added to the list of appearances. [[User:Apocalypse.underground\|Apocalypse.underground]] 20:13, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
	:You're looking for [[Cyberdisc (EU2012)]], if you are talking about XCOM: Enemy Unknown ;) [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 23:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)		:You're looking for [[Cyberdisc (EU2012)]], if you are talking about XCOM: Enemy Unknown ;) [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 23:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
			::thanks! this sort of oversight is exactly why i learned to leave comments before taking full advantage of edit power :) [[User:Apocalypse.underground\|Apocalypse.underground]] 21:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)

Hobbes: /* one more instance */

2013-09-23T03:32:03Z

one more instance

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	these can appear in Abduction missions too, not just Terror (now playing my first Classic run-through, after a Normal game in which they debuted in Terror). I checked the Terror mission entry but didn't find Abductions to be a 'subset', so this is a suggestion that Alien Abduction be added to the list of appearances. [[User:Apocalypse.underground\|Apocalypse.underground]] 20:13, 22 September 2013 (EDT)		these can appear in Abduction missions too, not just Terror (now playing my first Classic run-through, after a Normal game in which they debuted in Terror). I checked the Terror mission entry but didn't find Abductions to be a 'subset', so this is a suggestion that Alien Abduction be added to the list of appearances. [[User:Apocalypse.underground\|Apocalypse.underground]] 20:13, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
			:You're looking for [[Cyberdisc (EU2012)]], if you are talking about XCOM: Enemy Unknown ;) [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 23:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)

Apocalypse.underground: /* one more instance */ new section

2013-09-23T00:13:34Z

one more instance: new section

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	::Except it still comes up as a corpse. Even if you taser it and there is no explosion. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] 09:41, 15 August 2009 (EDT)		::Except it still comes up as a corpse. Even if you taser it and there is no explosion. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] 09:41, 15 August 2009 (EDT)

			== one more instance ==

			these can appear in Abduction missions too, not just Terror (now playing my first Classic run-through, after a Normal game in which they debuted in Terror). I checked the Terror mission entry but didn't find Abductions to be a 'subset', so this is a suggestion that Alien Abduction be added to the list of appearances. [[User:Apocalypse.underground\|Apocalypse.underground]] 20:13, 22 September 2013 (EDT)

Sowelu: /* Stun Bombs vs. Detonation */

2011-03-03T08:33:40Z

Stun Bombs vs. Detonation

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	:Ok, a partially MC'd Cyberdisc does explode with a Stun Bomb. So will a full alien controlled Cyberdisc. However, a fully MC'd Cyberdisc will not explode when it is stunned with a Stun Bomb. So there you go. Some odd stuff going on with stunning, but at least we have an answer. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 22:55, 24 June 2009 (EDT)		:Ok, a partially MC'd Cyberdisc does explode with a Stun Bomb. So will a full alien controlled Cyberdisc. However, a fully MC'd Cyberdisc will not explode when it is stunned with a Stun Bomb. So there you go. Some odd stuff going on with stunning, but at least we have an answer. --[[User:Zombie\|Zombie]] 22:55, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

			:It's not (entirely) a MC issue. Early on, before I even had psi labs, I took one down safely with a small launcher. It wasn't previously damaged (I don't think, unless I missed and hit it off-screen). Importantly, I didn't hit it dead-on; the stun bomb landed next to it. Totally random idea but could it have to do with where the stun bomb lands in relation to it, kind of like how grenades can destroy each other? Seems unlikely, but hey. This was on Beginner, and using UFOExtender which I guess might throw everything off. [[User:Sowelu\|Sowelu]] 03:33, 3 March 2011 (EST)

	==MCed Cyberdisc MAD suggestion==		==MCed Cyberdisc MAD suggestion==

Magic9mushroom: /* You can capture cyberdiscs. */

2009-08-15T13:45:35Z

You can capture cyberdiscs.

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	If a cyberdisk is hovering when you stun bomb it, it's explosion will not usually kill it, as the explosion happens on the level above where the "corpse" falls. One sectoid terror mission is usually enough to capture one if you've using stun launchers.		If a cyberdisk is hovering when you stun bomb it, it's explosion will not usually kill it, as the explosion happens on the level above where the "corpse" falls. One sectoid terror mission is usually enough to capture one if you've using stun launchers.

	**Except it still comes up as a corpse. Even if you taser it and there is no explosion. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] 09:41, 15 August 2009 (EDT)		::Except it still comes up as a corpse. Even if you taser it and there is no explosion. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] 09:41, 15 August 2009 (EDT)

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	these can appear in Abduction missions too, not just Terror (now playing my first Classic run-through, after a Normal game in which they debuted in Terror). I checked the Terror mission entry but didn't find Abductions to be a 'subset', so this is a suggestion that Alien Abduction be added to the list of appearances. [[User:Apocalypse.underground\|Apocalypse.underground]] 20:13, 22 September 2013 (EDT)		these can appear in Abduction missions too, not just Terror (now playing my first Classic run-through, after a Normal game in which they debuted in Terror). I checked the Terror mission entry but didn't find Abductions to be a 'subset', so this is a suggestion that Alien Abduction be added to the list of appearances. [[User:Apocalypse.underground\|Apocalypse.underground]] 20:13, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
	:You're looking for [[Cyberdisc (EU2012)]], if you are talking about XCOM: Enemy Unknown ;) [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 23:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)		:You're looking for [[Cyberdisc (EU2012)]], if you are talking about XCOM: Enemy Unknown ;) [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 23:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
			::thanks! this sort of oversight is exactly why i learned to leave comments before taking full advantage of edit power :) [[User:Apocalypse.underground\|Apocalypse.underground]] 21:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)