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StarWeaver: /* Chance to be critically wounded rather than dying */ uhh remembering to sign

2014-01-12T14:38:00Z

Chance to be critically wounded rather than dying: uhh remembering to sign

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	Also, it looks like the volunteer always just dies instead of going to bleedout. Has anyone experienced this?		Also, it looks like the volunteer always just dies instead of going to bleedout. Has anyone experienced this?

			(I made an account to post this yesterday and then forgot to sign. My wiki skills are getting rusty o.o) -- [[User:StarWeaver\|StarWeaver]] ([[User talk:StarWeaver\|talk]]) 09:38, 12 January 2014 (EST)

StarWeaver: Chance to be critically wounded rather than dying

2014-01-11T16:22:16Z

Chance to be critically wounded rather than dying

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	Alright, then, I'll take that as confirmation. Guess I simply haven't come across it. Alternately, perhaps the AI only is that spiteful on higher difficulties? I haven't played Classic in a long time, and I get shut down pretty fast on Impossible(WELL before Cyberdiscs show up). [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 22:37, 7 December 2013 (EST)		Alright, then, I'll take that as confirmation. Guess I simply haven't come across it. Alternately, perhaps the AI only is that spiteful on higher difficulties? I haven't played Classic in a long time, and I get shut down pretty fast on Impossible(WELL before Cyberdiscs show up). [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 22:37, 7 December 2013 (EST)
	:I've never seen them just shoot one, but I've seen them grenade a stabilised soldier when next to a healthy one. I think they're not valid targets to fire on but the aliens will consider them when targeting an AOE. [[User:Binkyuk\|Binkyuk]] 17:09, 8 December 2013 (EST)		:I've never seen them just shoot one, but I've seen them grenade a stabilised soldier when next to a healthy one. I think they're not valid targets to fire on but the aliens will consider them when targeting an AOE. [[User:Binkyuk\|Binkyuk]] 17:09, 8 December 2013 (EST)

			==Chance to be critically wounded rather than dying==

			From XComGame.upk:XGTacticalGameCore.CalcCriticallyWounded it looks like the chance for a non-secondary-heart soldier to not die is:

			(15 + Will - 40[ROOKIE_STARTING_WILL])%

			or

			(Will - 25)%

			With a max chance of MAX_CRIT_WOUND from one of the inis, which I think is 90.

			Also, it looks like the volunteer always just dies instead of going to bleedout. Has anyone experienced this?

Binkyuk: /* Stabilized soldiers subject to enemy fire? */

2013-12-08T22:09:06Z

Stabilized soldiers subject to enemy fire?

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	:I've seen Thin Men using poison and Cyberdiscs using Death Blossom to deliberately kill unconscious soldiers. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 21:48, 7 December 2013 (EST)		:I've seen Thin Men using poison and Cyberdiscs using Death Blossom to deliberately kill unconscious soldiers. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 21:48, 7 December 2013 (EST)
	Alright, then, I'll take that as confirmation. Guess I simply haven't come across it. Alternately, perhaps the AI only is that spiteful on higher difficulties? I haven't played Classic in a long time, and I get shut down pretty fast on Impossible(WELL before Cyberdiscs show up). [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 22:37, 7 December 2013 (EST)		Alright, then, I'll take that as confirmation. Guess I simply haven't come across it. Alternately, perhaps the AI only is that spiteful on higher difficulties? I haven't played Classic in a long time, and I get shut down pretty fast on Impossible(WELL before Cyberdiscs show up). [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 22:37, 7 December 2013 (EST)
			:I've never seen them just shoot one, but I've seen them grenade a stabilised soldier when next to a healthy one. I think they're not valid targets to fire on but the aliens will consider them when targeting an AOE. [[User:Binkyuk\|Binkyuk]] 17:09, 8 December 2013 (EST)

Arrow Quivershaft at 03:37, 8 December 2013

2013-12-08T03:37:51Z

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	While I have noticed that the AI will shoot revived soldiers, I've never seen it deliberately target stabilized-but-still-unconscious soldiers deliberately. Are we sure this is right? I have seen the AI kill stabilized soldiers incidentally with area-of-effect attacks while targeting someone near them. (Say, using a Berserker's Charge on the medic and killing the wounded soldier as part of the AOE damage.) Perhaps the original poster was confused? [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 20:19, 7 December 2013 (EST)		While I have noticed that the AI will shoot revived soldiers, I've never seen it deliberately target stabilized-but-still-unconscious soldiers deliberately. Are we sure this is right? I have seen the AI kill stabilized soldiers incidentally with area-of-effect attacks while targeting someone near them. (Say, using a Berserker's Charge on the medic and killing the wounded soldier as part of the AOE damage.) Perhaps the original poster was confused? [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 20:19, 7 December 2013 (EST)
	:I've seen Thin Men using poison and Cyberdiscs using Death Blossom to deliberately kill unconscious soldiers. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 21:48, 7 December 2013 (EST)		:I've seen Thin Men using poison and Cyberdiscs using Death Blossom to deliberately kill unconscious soldiers. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 21:48, 7 December 2013 (EST)
			Alright, then, I'll take that as confirmation. Guess I simply haven't come across it. Alternately, perhaps the AI only is that spiteful on higher difficulties? I haven't played Classic in a long time, and I get shut down pretty fast on Impossible(WELL before Cyberdiscs show up). [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 22:37, 7 December 2013 (EST)

Hobbes at 02:48, 8 December 2013

2013-12-08T02:48:18Z

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	While I have noticed that the AI will shoot revived soldiers, I've never seen it deliberately target stabilized-but-still-unconscious soldiers deliberately. Are we sure this is right? I have seen the AI kill stabilized soldiers incidentally with area-of-effect attacks while targeting someone near them. (Say, using a Berserker's Charge on the medic and killing the wounded soldier as part of the AOE damage.) Perhaps the original poster was confused? [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 20:19, 7 December 2013 (EST)		While I have noticed that the AI will shoot revived soldiers, I've never seen it deliberately target stabilized-but-still-unconscious soldiers deliberately. Are we sure this is right? I have seen the AI kill stabilized soldiers incidentally with area-of-effect attacks while targeting someone near them. (Say, using a Berserker's Charge on the medic and killing the wounded soldier as part of the AOE damage.) Perhaps the original poster was confused? [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 20:19, 7 December 2013 (EST)
			:I've seen Thin Men using poison and Cyberdiscs using Death Blossom to deliberately kill unconscious soldiers. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 21:48, 7 December 2013 (EST)

Arrow Quivershaft: /* Page rename */ Have never seen aliens deliberately shoot a stabilized, unconscious soldier. Are we sure this is accurate?

2013-12-08T01:19:26Z

Page rename: Have never seen aliens deliberately shoot a stabilized, unconscious soldier. Are we sure this is accurate?

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	==Page rename==		==Page rename==
	I have changed this page name to [[Critical Wounds (EU2012)]] since it more correctly represent the game-mechanic and content of the page. '''Death''' as a mechanic is not really worth considering except the "permadeath" comment. However how to avoid soldiers dying or how to manage with losses in your squad could be a topic for the tactics or strategy pages. --[[User:Kokkan\|Kokkan]] 07:25, 19 October 2012 (EDT)		I have changed this page name to [[Critical Wounds (EU2012)]] since it more correctly represent the game-mechanic and content of the page. '''Death''' as a mechanic is not really worth considering except the "permadeath" comment. However how to avoid soldiers dying or how to manage with losses in your squad could be a topic for the tactics or strategy pages. --[[User:Kokkan\|Kokkan]] 07:25, 19 October 2012 (EDT)

			==Stabilized soldiers subject to enemy fire?==

			While I have noticed that the AI will shoot revived soldiers, I've never seen it deliberately target stabilized-but-still-unconscious soldiers deliberately. Are we sure this is right? I have seen the AI kill stabilized soldiers incidentally with area-of-effect attacks while targeting someone near them. (Say, using a Berserker's Charge on the medic and killing the wounded soldier as part of the AOE damage.) Perhaps the original poster was confused? [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 20:19, 7 December 2013 (EST)

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2012-10-19T11:25:19Z

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==Page rename==
I have changed this page name to [[Critical Wounds (EU2012)]] since it more correctly represent the game-mechanic and content of the page. '''Death''' as a mechanic is not really worth considering except the "permadeath" comment. However how to avoid soldiers dying or how to manage with losses in your squad could be a topic for the tactics or strategy pages. --[[User:Kokkan|Kokkan]] 07:25, 19 October 2012 (EDT)

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	:I've seen Thin Men using poison and Cyberdiscs using Death Blossom to deliberately kill unconscious soldiers. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 21:48, 7 December 2013 (EST)		:I've seen Thin Men using poison and Cyberdiscs using Death Blossom to deliberately kill unconscious soldiers. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 21:48, 7 December 2013 (EST)
	Alright, then, I'll take that as confirmation. Guess I simply haven't come across it. Alternately, perhaps the AI only is that spiteful on higher difficulties? I haven't played Classic in a long time, and I get shut down pretty fast on Impossible(WELL before Cyberdiscs show up). [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 22:37, 7 December 2013 (EST)		Alright, then, I'll take that as confirmation. Guess I simply haven't come across it. Alternately, perhaps the AI only is that spiteful on higher difficulties? I haven't played Classic in a long time, and I get shut down pretty fast on Impossible(WELL before Cyberdiscs show up). [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 22:37, 7 December 2013 (EST)
			:I've never seen them just shoot one, but I've seen them grenade a stabilised soldier when next to a healthy one. I think they're not valid targets to fire on but the aliens will consider them when targeting an AOE. [[User:Binkyuk\|Binkyuk]] 17:09, 8 December 2013 (EST)

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	While I have noticed that the AI will shoot revived soldiers, I've never seen it deliberately target stabilized-but-still-unconscious soldiers deliberately. Are we sure this is right? I have seen the AI kill stabilized soldiers incidentally with area-of-effect attacks while targeting someone near them. (Say, using a Berserker's Charge on the medic and killing the wounded soldier as part of the AOE damage.) Perhaps the original poster was confused? [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 20:19, 7 December 2013 (EST)		While I have noticed that the AI will shoot revived soldiers, I've never seen it deliberately target stabilized-but-still-unconscious soldiers deliberately. Are we sure this is right? I have seen the AI kill stabilized soldiers incidentally with area-of-effect attacks while targeting someone near them. (Say, using a Berserker's Charge on the medic and killing the wounded soldier as part of the AOE damage.) Perhaps the original poster was confused? [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 20:19, 7 December 2013 (EST)
	:I've seen Thin Men using poison and Cyberdiscs using Death Blossom to deliberately kill unconscious soldiers. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 21:48, 7 December 2013 (EST)		:I've seen Thin Men using poison and Cyberdiscs using Death Blossom to deliberately kill unconscious soldiers. [[User:Hobbes\|Hobbes]] 21:48, 7 December 2013 (EST)
			Alright, then, I'll take that as confirmation. Guess I simply haven't come across it. Alternately, perhaps the AI only is that spiteful on higher difficulties? I haven't played Classic in a long time, and I get shut down pretty fast on Impossible(WELL before Cyberdiscs show up). [[User:Arrow Quivershaft\|Arrow Quivershaft]] 22:37, 7 December 2013 (EST)