Talk:Alien Weapon Loadouts - Revision history

Magic9mushroom: /* Loadout chance */ new section

2019-12-22T08:45:07Z

Loadout chance: new section

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	I can verify that this loadout is real. I saw one myself. DOS version, Superhuman difficulty, I think it was March, unmodded except for hacking out the difficulty bug (manually, not via a utility, so I am 100% sure nothing else was changed). So one must assume that either a) this table is only correct for CE, or b) Terror Sites have a separate loadout from Terror Ships. Probably a). [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 22:21, 8 May 2015 (EDT)		I can verify that this loadout is real. I saw one myself. DOS version, Superhuman difficulty, I think it was March, unmodded except for hacking out the difficulty bug (manually, not via a utility, so I am 100% sure nothing else was changed). So one must assume that either a) this table is only correct for CE, or b) Terror Sites have a separate loadout from Terror Ships. Probably a). [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 22:21, 8 May 2015 (EDT)

			== Loadout chance ==

			Does anybody know the chance of getting the various loadouts? I have a suspicion it's along the lines of:
			*generate random number 0-99
			if random number < (40 - 10months gone) then Early
			else if random number < (80 - 10months gone) then Middle
			*else Late
			for a chance of 40/40/20 -> 30/40/30 -> 20/40/40 -> 10/40/50 -> 0/40/60 -> 0/30/70 -> 0/20/80 -> 0/10/90 -> 0/0/100 through the first nine months. Can't be 100% sure without a code dig, though, and that's beyond my abilities. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 09:45, 22 December 2019 (CET)

Magic9mushroom: /* TFTD Edition of this page? */

2019-12-22T07:10:39Z

TFTD Edition of this page?

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	I've never seen one. It should be pretty easy to parse the info from the executable. [[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 07:30, 17 February 2014 (EST)		I've never seen one. It should be pretty easy to parse the info from the executable. [[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 07:30, 17 February 2014 (EST)

			:I have made it at [[Alien Weapon Loadouts (TFTD)]]. [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 08:10, 22 December 2019 (CET)

	== Sectoid Leader with Small Launcher at Terror Site ==		== Sectoid Leader with Small Launcher at Terror Site ==

	I can verify that this loadout is real. I saw one myself. DOS version, Superhuman difficulty, I think it was March, unmodded except for hacking out the difficulty bug (manually, not via a utility, so I am 100% sure nothing else was changed). So one must assume that either a) this table is only correct for CE, or b) Terror Sites have a separate loadout from Terror Ships. Probably a). [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 22:21, 8 May 2015 (EDT)		I can verify that this loadout is real. I saw one myself. DOS version, Superhuman difficulty, I think it was March, unmodded except for hacking out the difficulty bug (manually, not via a utility, so I am 100% sure nothing else was changed). So one must assume that either a) this table is only correct for CE, or b) Terror Sites have a separate loadout from Terror Ships. Probably a). [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 22:21, 8 May 2015 (EDT)

Magic9mushroom: forgot to sign lol

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forgot to sign lol

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	== Sectoid Leader with Small Launcher at Terror Site ==		== Sectoid Leader with Small Launcher at Terror Site ==

	I can verify that this loadout is real. I saw one myself. DOS version, Superhuman difficulty, I think it was March, unmodded except for hacking out the difficulty bug (manually, not via a utility, so I am 100% sure nothing else was changed). So one must assume that either a) this table is only correct for CE, or b) Terror Sites have a separate loadout from Terror Ships. Probably a).		I can verify that this loadout is real. I saw one myself. DOS version, Superhuman difficulty, I think it was March, unmodded except for hacking out the difficulty bug (manually, not via a utility, so I am 100% sure nothing else was changed). So one must assume that either a) this table is only correct for CE, or b) Terror Sites have a separate loadout from Terror Ships. Probably a). [[User:Magic9mushroom\|Magic9mushroom]] ([[User talk:Magic9mushroom\|talk]]) 22:21, 8 May 2015 (EDT)

Magic9mushroom: verified case that doesn't match the table

2015-05-09T02:21:19Z

verified case that doesn't match the table

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	I've never seen one. It should be pretty easy to parse the info from the executable. [[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 07:30, 17 February 2014 (EST)		I've never seen one. It should be pretty easy to parse the info from the executable. [[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 07:30, 17 February 2014 (EST)

			== Sectoid Leader with Small Launcher at Terror Site ==

			I can verify that this loadout is real. I saw one myself. DOS version, Superhuman difficulty, I think it was March, unmodded except for hacking out the difficulty bug (manually, not via a utility, so I am 100% sure nothing else was changed). So one must assume that either a) this table is only correct for CE, or b) Terror Sites have a separate loadout from Terror Ships. Probably a).

Morgan525: /* TFTD Edition of this page? */

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TFTD Edition of this page?

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	Silly question, but did we ever create the TFTD version of this page? If not, do we have the data dumped somewhere? [[User:NKF\|NKF]] ([[User talk:NKF\|talk]]) 02:22, 17 February 2014 (EST)		Silly question, but did we ever create the TFTD version of this page? If not, do we have the data dumped somewhere? [[User:NKF\|NKF]] ([[User talk:NKF\|talk]]) 02:22, 17 February 2014 (EST)

			I've never seen one. It should be pretty easy to parse the info from the executable. [[User:Morgan525\|Tycho]] ([[User talk:Morgan525\|talk]]) 07:30, 17 February 2014 (EST)

NKF: /* TFTD Edition of this page? */ new section

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TFTD Edition of this page?: new section

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	Also makes it much easier to capture that alien rank you were looking for! No more mind probing needed, just spot the alien carrying the Blaster Launcher!		Also makes it much easier to capture that alien rank you were looking for! No more mind probing needed, just spot the alien carrying the Blaster Launcher!
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			== TFTD Edition of this page? ==

			Silly question, but did we ever create the TFTD version of this page? If not, do we have the data dumped somewhere? [[User:NKF\|NKF]] ([[User talk:NKF\|talk]]) 02:22, 17 February 2014 (EST)

NKF: /* That last paragraph */

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That last paragraph

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	Now, if it wasn't for the last update, I'd never have noticed the bit right at the end. But where did that paragraph come from and do we even need it in the article? -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 05:50, 23 February 2013 (EST)		Now, if it wasn't for the last update, I'd never have noticed the bit right at the end. But where did that paragraph come from and do we even need it in the article? -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 05:50, 23 February 2013 (EST)

			: All right, I'm moving this off the article. I don't feel it is required. [[User:NKF\|NKF]] 02:12, 26 February 2013 (EST)

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			These loadouts are useful to know, ESPECIALLY once you have psi, OR if you happen to get lucky and make the enemy forces panic... knowing which enemies can carry grenades, and which enemies do not carry grenades makes a lot of difference sometimes! An alien with its hands empty and standing on a Blaster Launcher or Small Launcher can be given low priority... shoot the more dangerous aliens first. However, a Heavy Plasma toting alien that dropped its weapons is HIGHLY dangerous, since it has just finished panicking, has gained 15 morale and has nothing in its armament except for an alien grenade... BOOM.

			Also makes it much easier to capture that alien rank you were looking for! No more mind probing needed, just spot the alien carrying the Blaster Launcher!
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Morgan525 at 09:16, 24 February 2013

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	:: It's certainly true that it's random on a per-unit basis. It's very rare to see an entire crew armed with the exact same plasma weapon (until the late game, where heavies are about all you'll see). - <span style="font-size:xx-small"> [[User:Bomb_Bloke\|Bomb Bloke]] ([[User_talk:Bomb_Bloke\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Bomb_Bloke\|Contribs]])</span> 06:36, 18 June 2011 (EDT)		:: It's certainly true that it's random on a per-unit basis. It's very rare to see an entire crew armed with the exact same plasma weapon (until the late game, where heavies are about all you'll see). - <span style="font-size:xx-small"> [[User:Bomb_Bloke\|Bomb Bloke]] ([[User_talk:Bomb_Bloke\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Bomb_Bloke\|Contribs]])</span> 06:36, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

	: I've done a lot of code diving and I'm fairly certain that byte5 should be the % chance that a particular alien of this rank gets delayed in the first round ~~because has been rendered inactive during the alien spawn routine~~. ~~However~~, I'~~ve tried to arrange~~ a ~~scenario where all aliens have 100~~% ~~and~~ the ~~game skips the initial end of turns~~ to ~~see how this affects~~ the ~~aliens~~ and ~~I can~~'~~t see any differences~~.		: <s>I've done a lot of code diving and I'm fairly certain that byte5 should be the % chance that a particular alien of this rank gets delayed in the first round</s>. After reviewing this again, I think byte5 might be the % chance that this alien survives a possible UPS explosion if it's in its radius. The main effect of byte 5 is a % that bit 2 of the alien's UNITPOS 0A byte is set to zero in the alien spawn routine. It's still outfitted and in the following routine, any UPS explosion's damage is applied to unit's in its radius. However, units with zeo in bit 2 of their UNITPOS-0Abyte are skipped.

	== Reason for Abductor error? ==		== Reason for Abductor error? ==

Morgan525 at 21:47, 23 February 2013

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	:: It's certainly true that it's random on a per-unit basis. It's very rare to see an entire crew armed with the exact same plasma weapon (until the late game, where heavies are about all you'll see). - <span style="font-size:xx-small"> [[User:Bomb_Bloke\|Bomb Bloke]] ([[User_talk:Bomb_Bloke\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Bomb_Bloke\|Contribs]])</span> 06:36, 18 June 2011 (EDT)		:: It's certainly true that it's random on a per-unit basis. It's very rare to see an entire crew armed with the exact same plasma weapon (until the late game, where heavies are about all you'll see). - <span style="font-size:xx-small"> [[User:Bomb_Bloke\|Bomb Bloke]] ([[User_talk:Bomb_Bloke\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Bomb_Bloke\|Contribs]])</span> 06:36, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

	: I've done a lot of code diving and I'm fairly certain that byte5 is the % chance that a particular alien of this rank gets delayed in the first round because has been rendered inactive during the alien spawn routine.		: I've done a lot of code diving and I'm fairly certain that byte5 should be the % chance that a particular alien of this rank gets delayed in the first round because has been rendered inactive during the alien spawn routine. However, I've tried to arrange a scenario where all aliens have 100% and the game skips the initial end of turns to see how this affects the aliens and I can't see any differences.

	== Reason for Abductor error? ==		== Reason for Abductor error? ==

Morgan525 at 19:51, 23 February 2013

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	:: It's certainly true that it's random on a per-unit basis. It's very rare to see an entire crew armed with the exact same plasma weapon (until the late game, where heavies are about all you'll see). - <span style="font-size:xx-small"> [[User:Bomb_Bloke\|Bomb Bloke]] ([[User_talk:Bomb_Bloke\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Bomb_Bloke\|Contribs]])</span> 06:36, 18 June 2011 (EDT)		:: It's certainly true that it's random on a per-unit basis. It's very rare to see an entire crew armed with the exact same plasma weapon (until the late game, where heavies are about all you'll see). - <span style="font-size:xx-small"> [[User:Bomb_Bloke\|Bomb Bloke]] ([[User_talk:Bomb_Bloke\|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Bomb_Bloke\|Contribs]])</span> 06:36, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

			: I've done a lot of code diving and I'm fairly certain that byte5 is the % chance that a particular alien of this rank gets delayed in the first round because has been rendered inactive during the alien spawn routine.

	== Reason for Abductor error? ==		== Reason for Abductor error? ==