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2019-12-07T23:03:05Z

ComradeChryssalid moved page Talk:Alien Colony Attack Mission to Talk:Alien Colony Assault over redirect: Most links (such as on the Mission Types page) refer to this mission as an Alien Colony Assault, not an "attack mission"

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Darkpast: info on alien numbers

2014-07-13T16:54:48Z

info on alien numbers

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	[[User:Spike\|Spike]] 20:08, 22 October 2012 (EDT)		[[User:Spike\|Spike]] 20:08, 22 October 2012 (EDT)

			== Info for future rewrite ==

			I'll get around to rewriting this article one day, but for now just some info on alien numbers. Veteran difficulty, used X-Com Hack v3 to check. Sample size was 6 missions.

			Upper level:
			*Tasoth Soldier x9-13
			*Tasoth Squad Leader x3-7
			*Tentaculat x5-9
			*Aquatoid Soldier x3
			*Aquatoid Squad Leader x2-3
			*Hallucinoid x5-6

			Lower level:
			*Lobster Man Commander x3
			*Lobster Man Navigator x2
			*Lobster Man Squad Leader x4-6
			*Lobster Man Technician x4-6
			*Lobster Man Soldier x4-5
			*Tentaculat x6-9

			Yeah, there's a lot of aliens down there. So by the way, this means I'm very skeptical of anyone who claims to have cleaned out a colony without Sonics/Drills/MC.

			--[[User:Darkpast\|Darkpast]] ([[User talk:Darkpast\|talk]]) 12:54, 13 July 2014 (EDT)

4th Cuirassier: /* Low Tech Colony Destruction */

2012-12-13T15:04:10Z

Low Tech Colony Destruction

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	:: The sixth assault was the first colony where I won by killing all the aliens downstairs. I have yet to win by clearing both levels.		:: The sixth assault was the first colony where I won by killing all the aliens downstairs. I have yet to win by clearing both levels.

	:: What works best, if all you have is alien grenades, is to plaster the area around the ~~Tritom~~ with these and then rush the nearest exit. The best place to land is the north-west or south-west corner because you then have a short walk into the main building. I reserve 4 TUs for kneeling, but in fact normally use them to have the aquanaut turn around and face outwards or behind, so the squad advances in a gaggle behind the tank and relies on reaction fire and all-round defence.		:: What works best, if all you have is alien grenades, is to plaster the area around the Triton with these immediately on disembarkation, and then rush the nearest exit. The best place to land is the north-west or south-west corner, because you then have a short walk into the main building. I reserve 4 TUs for kneeling, but in fact normally use them to have the aquanaut turn around and face outwards or behind, so the squad advances in a gaggle behind the tank and relies on reaction fire and all-round defence.

	:: Once underground the tank can be useful to bottle up aliens in one-square-wide corridors, and also for picking off Flying Cauliflowers. The main tactic underground though is simply to wreck the Device then retreat. So it can be done, but basically, ~~have~~ poor weapons and no MC guarantees casualties ~~and~~ you just have to be prepared to accept these. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 09:56, 3 December 2012 (EST)		:: Once underground, the tank can be useful to bottle up aliens in one-square-wide corridors, and also for picking off Flying Cauliflowers. The main tactic underground though is simply to wreck the Device, then retreat. So it can be done, but basically, having poor weapons and no MC guarantees casualties; you just have to be prepared to accept these. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 09:56, 3 December 2012 (EST)

	== Loot and tactics ==		== Loot and tactics ==

4th Cuirassier: /* Low Tech Colony Destruction */

2012-12-13T15:02:52Z

Low Tech Colony Destruction

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	:: I'm replaying the game on a high level but I can't remember which one. It's October in game time, I have Sonic Blasta Rifles and Sonic Pulsers, but I have no MC, no armour and the only close range weapon I have is the Taser. I explored Gauss technology only to get the guns to sell. Gas cannon firing HE have almost the same attack value as Gauss Rifles but the blast radius allows you to kill some aliens without the direct hit necessary with a Gauss weapon.		:: I'm replaying the game on a high level but I can't remember which one. It's October in game time, I have Sonic Blasta Rifles and Sonic Pulsers, but I have no MC, no armour and the only close range weapon I have is the Taser. I explored Gauss technology, but only to get the guns to sell. Gas cannon firing HE have almost the same attack value as Gauss Rifles, but the blast radius of the HE shell allows you to kill some aliens without the direct hit necessary with a Gauss weapon. So after one or two experimental sorties with Gauss weapons, I went back to gas cannon.

	:: So far, I have destroyed four alien colonies using only terrestrial weapons and alien grenades. I destroyed a fifth after getting Sonic Pistols, a sixth after getting Sonic Blastas and I'm currently assaulting the seventh. So I have Sonic Pulsers and Sonic Blastas but that's the lot.		:: So far, I have destroyed four alien colonies using only terrestrial weapons and alien grenades. I destroyed a fifth after getting Sonic Pistols, a sixth after getting Sonic Blastas and I'm currently assaulting the seventh. So I have Sonic Pulsers and Sonic Blastas, but that's the lot.

	:: The first five missions I just bundled in as many guys as I could, went to the second level and then blew up the Synomium device before retreating. I took a tank to scout ahead and typically lost six or seven of my ten guys, mostly to MC attack.		:: The first five missions, I just bundled in as many guys as I could, went to the second level, and then blew up the Synomium device before retreating. I took a tank to scout ahead and typically lost six or seven of my ten guys, mostly to MC attack.

	:: The sixth assault was the first colony where I won by killing all the aliens downstairs. I have yet to win by clearing both levels.		:: The sixth assault was the first colony where I won by killing all the aliens downstairs. I have yet to win by clearing both levels.

4th Cuirassier: /* Low Tech Colony Destruction */

2012-12-03T14:56:47Z

Low Tech Colony Destruction

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	[[User:Spike\|Spike]] 19:09, 14 October 2012 (EDT)		[[User:Spike\|Spike]] 19:09, 14 October 2012 (EDT)

			:: I'm replaying the game on a high level but I can't remember which one. It's October in game time, I have Sonic Blasta Rifles and Sonic Pulsers, but I have no MC, no armour and the only close range weapon I have is the Taser. I explored Gauss technology only to get the guns to sell. Gas cannon firing HE have almost the same attack value as Gauss Rifles but the blast radius allows you to kill some aliens without the direct hit necessary with a Gauss weapon.

			:: So far, I have destroyed four alien colonies using only terrestrial weapons and alien grenades. I destroyed a fifth after getting Sonic Pistols, a sixth after getting Sonic Blastas and I'm currently assaulting the seventh. So I have Sonic Pulsers and Sonic Blastas but that's the lot.

			:: The first five missions I just bundled in as many guys as I could, went to the second level and then blew up the Synomium device before retreating. I took a tank to scout ahead and typically lost six or seven of my ten guys, mostly to MC attack.

			:: The sixth assault was the first colony where I won by killing all the aliens downstairs. I have yet to win by clearing both levels.

			:: What works best, if all you have is alien grenades, is to plaster the area around the Tritom with these and then rush the nearest exit. The best place to land is the north-west or south-west corner because you then have a short walk into the main building. I reserve 4 TUs for kneeling, but in fact normally use them to have the aquanaut turn around and face outwards or behind, so the squad advances in a gaggle behind the tank and relies on reaction fire and all-round defence.

			:: Once underground the tank can be useful to bottle up aliens in one-square-wide corridors, and also for picking off Flying Cauliflowers. The main tactic underground though is simply to wreck the Device then retreat. So it can be done, but basically, have poor weapons and no MC guarantees casualties and you just have to be prepared to accept these. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 09:56, 3 December 2012 (EST)

	== Loot and tactics ==		== Loot and tactics ==

Spike: /* Evil or Awesome? */

2012-10-24T11:42:37Z

Evil or Awesome?

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	== Evil? ==		== Evil or Awesome? ==

			===Evil!===

	Alien Colony Assault? Evil!		Alien Colony Assault? Evil!
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	*If you don't have the Thermic Lance and/or DPLs, take Thermal Tazers. Rush the lift, taking out as many aliens as you can (particularly the lift garrison), and be very, very sneaky in the second part - avoid contact as much as possible, stay out of the Lobstermen's line of sight, and whack them from behind with the Thermal Tazers if you can. Also, '''Ion Armour'''. Bare minimum protection, Ion Armour.		*If you don't have the Thermic Lance and/or DPLs, take Thermal Tazers. Rush the lift, taking out as many aliens as you can (particularly the lift garrison), and be very, very sneaky in the second part - avoid contact as much as possible, stay out of the Lobstermen's line of sight, and whack them from behind with the Thermal Tazers if you can. Also, '''Ion Armour'''. Bare minimum protection, Ion Armour.
	: Depending on the Difficulty level, it is do-able with Plastic Aqua Armour, no MC, no drills, no DPLs and no Thermal Shok launchers. See below... [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 18:43, 19 October 2012 (EDT)		: Depending on the Difficulty level, it is do-able at reasonable Difficulty levels with only Plastic Aqua Armour, no offensive MC, no drills, no DPLs and no Thermal Shok launchers. It is possible (though hard) to do this on Superhuman. However extreme caution must always be taken with troops who are not already proven as M.C.-resistant. But the Colony seabed raids themselves offer a great opportunity to screen troops for M.C.-resistance. (Yes, it is a lot less hassle if you have M.C. Labs). See below... [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 07:42, 24 October 2012 (EDT)

			=== Awesome! ===

			Alien Colony Assault? Awesome!

			The presence of an Alien Colony can be a great boon to a Commander with the determination and nerve to exploit the situation. No longer is X-COM at the mercy of the aliens schedule, or X-COM's detection ability, base coverage, craft interception capabilities, and strike team reaction time. The Commander can generate a Colony raid mission whenever it is required. As soon as a strike team has recovered from the previous mission you can launch a new one. Multiple strike teams can easily engage in back to back missions. Strategically, this offers X-COM an unending source of (real, hazardous) experience training, loot to use or sell for cash, in-field testing of M.C. resistance, and improved standing with the funding nations (i.e. extra score). A few successful or even semi-successful raids per month will easily compensate for the negative score the Colony generates: 5 points per day to the aliens, plus 50 to them for founding the Colony, plus the alien score for running its supply missions - call it a few hundred a month, which you can easily achieve in a single raid. Colony raids can even supply a fair proportion of the specimens and items you will need for research. But for as long as the Colony continues to exist, X-COM are assured of a tactical mission every few days, or as often as daily if there are no casualties, for every strike team. In fact, if you can perform the mission with low or no casualties, it is financially viable to hire a second transport simply to decrease mission turnover time and increase the rate of missions per month. It is definitely advisable to move your primary strike team to the base closest to the Colony, and it may be appropriate to build a new forward strike base close to the Colony, depending on how long you plan on keeping the Colony around. When you finally decide to destroy the Colony (probably due to pressure from higher up the X-COM chain of command), it may be a bittersweet moment. [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 07:42, 24 October 2012 (EDT)

	== Low Tech Colony Raiding ==		== Low Tech Colony Raiding ==

Spike: /* Evil? */ An important qualification to my optimism :)

2012-10-23T00:09:50Z

Evil?: An important qualification to my optimism :)

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	*If you don't have the Thermic Lance and/or DPLs, take Thermal Tazers. Rush the lift, taking out as many aliens as you can (particularly the lift garrison), and be very, very sneaky in the second part - avoid contact as much as possible, stay out of the Lobstermen's line of sight, and whack them from behind with the Thermal Tazers if you can. Also, '''Ion Armour'''. Bare minimum protection, Ion Armour.		*If you don't have the Thermic Lance and/or DPLs, take Thermal Tazers. Rush the lift, taking out as many aliens as you can (particularly the lift garrison), and be very, very sneaky in the second part - avoid contact as much as possible, stay out of the Lobstermen's line of sight, and whack them from behind with the Thermal Tazers if you can. Also, '''Ion Armour'''. Bare minimum protection, Ion Armour.
	: ~~Nah. It's entirely~~ do-able with Plastic Aqua Armour, no MC, no drills, no DPLs and no Thermal Shok launchers. See below... [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 18:43, 19 October 2012 (EDT)		: Depending on the Difficulty level, it is do-able with Plastic Aqua Armour, no MC, no drills, no DPLs and no Thermal Shok launchers. See below... [[User:Spike\|Spike]] 18:43, 19 October 2012 (EDT)

	== Low Tech Colony Raiding ==		== Low Tech Colony Raiding ==

Spike: /* Loot and tactics */ Grab the Zrbite

2012-10-23T00:08:11Z

Loot and tactics: Grab the Zrbite

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	The challenging aspect of bases is that you can discover them before you have done any MC research (in fact I have won the campaign before now without MC research ever reaching the top of the priority table). This means the top level is very tough, and the survivors then face the Lobsters and Flying Cauliflowers. If you are short of firepower at this stage, the best bet is to send a handful of guys to find and destroy the Synomium Device and then bug out. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 09:10, 29 March 2011 (EDT)		The challenging aspect of bases is that you can discover them before you have done any MC research (in fact I have won the campaign before now without MC research ever reaching the top of the priority table). This means the top level is very tough, and the survivors then face the Lobsters and Flying Cauliflowers. If you are short of firepower at this stage, the best bet is to send a handful of guys to find and destroy the Synomium Device and then bug out. [[User:4th Cuirassier\|4th Cuirassier]] 09:10, 29 March 2011 (EDT)

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			I thought this note from silencer_pl on StrategyCore was worth copying here for inclusion into the eventually to be revised main page:

			''don't forget to scout top floor for 100 Zrbite. You must find engine room. 2 of the engines has this yellow thing on the right corner - destroy the engine and pick 100 Zrbite (50 each). If you pick it up, the After Action Report will not mention that you had taken it, but it will be added to the stores''

			[[User:Spike\|Spike]] 20:08, 22 October 2012 (EDT)