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Jokes Free4Me: Partially undid revision 18823 by Zombie (talk) -- what's the use of an empty See Also section?

2015-04-09T00:18:21Z

Partially undid revision 18823 by Zombie (talk) -- what's the use of an empty See Also section?

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	Adapted from a post by [Zeno] in xcom.co.uk, reposted by [[User:JellyfishGreen\|JellyfishGreen]] 15:34, 25 Apr 2005 (BST)		Adapted from a post by [Zeno] in xcom.co.uk, reposted by [[User:JellyfishGreen\|JellyfishGreen]] 15:34, 25 Apr 2005 (BST)

	~~==See Also==~~
	[[Category: Tactics]]		[[Category: Tactics]]
	[[Category:Enemy Unknown/UFO Defense]]		[[Category:Enemy Unknown/UFO Defense]]

Hobbes: categorizing

2013-07-23T02:39:36Z

categorizing

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	==See Also==		==See Also==
	[[Category: Tactics]]		[[Category: Tactics]]
			[[Category:Enemy Unknown/UFO Defense]]

Alexbuzzbee at 17:45, 29 October 2012

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	*If you give the Rear Commander a [[Mind Probe]], [[Blaster Launcher]], or (assuming sufficient [[Psionic Skill]]) a [[Psi-Amp]], a Rear Commander can still participate in the battle from the safety of the dropship. Read the safety instructions before using the Blaster Launcher in confined places, though.		*If you give the Rear Commander a [[Mind Probe]], [[Blaster Launcher]], or (assuming sufficient [[Psionic Skill]]) a [[Psi-Amp]], a Rear Commander can still participate in the battle from the safety of the dropship. Read the safety instructions before using the Blaster Launcher in confined places, though.

	Note that you can use this tactic well into the game. 25 Squaddies and 1 Commander who stays on the ship works very, very effectively. The Squaddies in the line of fire won't suffer huge morale losses when their buddies die. In addition, Squaddies in ~~XCOM~~ can (and often do) have better stats than the officers (unless you fire or kill low-stat officers). Basically, the idea is to minimize morale penalties (which occur when soldiers die, so you want low rank soldiers in the line of fire). And, you want to maximize morale bonuses (which occur when officers stay alive, so you want officers to be safe throughout the battle).		Note that you can use this tactic well into the game. 25 Squaddies and 1 Commander who stays on the ship works very, very effectively. The Squaddies in the line of fire won't suffer huge morale losses when their buddies die. In addition, Squaddies in X-COM can (and often do) have better stats than the officers (unless you fire or kill low-stat officers). Basically, the idea is to minimize morale penalties (which occur when soldiers die, so you want low rank soldiers in the line of fire). And, you want to maximize morale bonuses (which occur when officers stay alive, so you want officers to be safe throughout the battle).

	Adapted from a post by [Zeno] in xcom.co.uk, reposted by [[User:JellyfishGreen\|JellyfishGreen]] 15:34, 25 Apr 2005 (BST)		Adapted from a post by [Zeno] in xcom.co.uk, reposted by [[User:JellyfishGreen\|JellyfishGreen]] 15:34, 25 Apr 2005 (BST)

Alexbuzzbee: Replaced "'ranger" and "Skyranger" with "dropship"

2012-10-29T17:45:03Z

Replaced "'ranger" and "Skyranger" with "dropship"

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	The officer provides several benefits:		The officer provides several benefits:

	*By staying in the ~~'ranger~~, the officer can abort the mission if there is a CF/SNAFU/FUBAR situation (choose your acronym).		*By staying in the dropship, the officer can abort the mission if there is a CF/SNAFU/FUBAR situation (choose your acronym).

	*By staying in the ~~'ranger~~, the officer is unlikely to be killed thus the rookies retain their morale benefit throughout the mission.		*By staying in the dropship, the officer is unlikely to be killed thus the rookies retain their morale benefit throughout the mission.

	*Excess [[weapons]], [[grenade]]s, and such can be left in the ~~Skyranger~~. Rookies may not have the strength to carry everything. The officer (with a decent level of strength) can throw [[Equipment (EU)\|equipment]] out of the ranger to rookies in the field.		*Excess [[weapons]], [[grenade]]s, and such can be left in the dropship. Rookies may not have the strength to carry everything. The officer (with a decent level of strength) can throw [[Equipment (EU)\|equipment]] out of the ranger to rookies in the field.

	*The rookies will gain much more [[experience]], as they will make all the shots and all the kills. This keeps your officer from stealing all the experience with their superior skills.		*The rookies will gain much more [[experience]], as they will make all the shots and all the kills. This keeps your officer from stealing all the experience with their superior skills.

Sandwich: Converted to gender-neutral

2011-03-17T14:12:28Z

Converted to gender-neutral

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	*Excess [[weapons]], [[grenade]]s, and such can be left in the Skyranger. Rookies may not have the strength to carry everything. The officer (with a decent level of strength) can throw [[Equipment (EU)\|equipment]] out of the ranger to rookies in the field.		*Excess [[weapons]], [[grenade]]s, and such can be left in the Skyranger. Rookies may not have the strength to carry everything. The officer (with a decent level of strength) can throw [[Equipment (EU)\|equipment]] out of the ranger to rookies in the field.

	*The rookies will gain much more [[experience]], as they will make all the shots and all the kills. This keeps your officer from stealing all the experience with ~~her~~ superior skills.		*The rookies will gain much more [[experience]], as they will make all the shots and all the kills. This keeps your officer from stealing all the experience with their superior skills.

	*If you give the Rear Commander a [[Mind Probe]], [[Blaster Launcher]], or (assuming sufficient [[Psionic Skill]]) a [[Psi-Amp]], a Rear Commander can still participate in the battle from the safety of the dropship. Read the safety instructions before using the Blaster Launcher in confined places, though.		*If you give the Rear Commander a [[Mind Probe]], [[Blaster Launcher]], or (assuming sufficient [[Psionic Skill]]) a [[Psi-Amp]], a Rear Commander can still participate in the battle from the safety of the dropship. Read the safety instructions before using the Blaster Launcher in confined places, though.

Bomb Bloke at 05:06, 18 December 2009

2009-12-18T05:06:59Z

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	*By staying in the 'ranger, the officer is unlikely to be killed thus the rookies retain their morale benefit throughout the mission.		*By staying in the 'ranger, the officer is unlikely to be killed thus the rookies retain their morale benefit throughout the mission.

	*Excess [[weapons]], [[grenade]]s, and such can be left in the Skyranger. Rookies may not have the strength to carry everything. The officer (with a decent level of strength) can throw [[equipment]] out of the ranger to rookies in the field.		*Excess [[weapons]], [[grenade]]s, and such can be left in the Skyranger. Rookies may not have the strength to carry everything. The officer (with a decent level of strength) can throw [[Equipment (EU)\|equipment]] out of the ranger to rookies in the field.

	*The rookies will gain much more [[experience]], as they will make all the shots and all the kills. This keeps your officer from stealing all the experience with her superior skills.		*The rookies will gain much more [[experience]], as they will make all the shots and all the kills. This keeps your officer from stealing all the experience with her superior skills.

Zombie: Added See Also, relinking.

2009-01-02T03:20:13Z

Added See Also, relinking.

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	*The rookies will gain much more [[experience]], as they will make all the shots and all the kills. This keeps your officer from stealing all the experience with her superior skills.		*The rookies will gain much more [[experience]], as they will make all the shots and all the kills. This keeps your officer from stealing all the experience with her superior skills.

	*If you give the Rear Commander a [[Mind Probe]], [[Blaster Launcher]], or (assuming sufficient [[~~Psi~~ Skill]]) a [[Psi-Amp]], a Rear Commander can still participate in the battle from the safety of the dropship. Read the safety instructions before using the Blaster Launcher in confined places, though.		*If you give the Rear Commander a [[Mind Probe]], [[Blaster Launcher]], or (assuming sufficient [[Psionic Skill]]) a [[Psi-Amp]], a Rear Commander can still participate in the battle from the safety of the dropship. Read the safety instructions before using the Blaster Launcher in confined places, though.

	Note that you can use this tactic well into the game. 25 Squaddies and 1 Commander who stays on the ship works very, very effectively. The Squaddies in the line of fire won't suffer huge morale losses when their buddies die. In addition, Squaddies in XCOM can (and often do) have better stats than the officers (unless you fire or kill low-stat officers). Basically, the idea is to minimize morale penalties (which occur when soldiers die, so you want low rank soldiers in the line of fire). And, you want to maximize morale bonuses (which occur when officers stay alive, so you want officers to be safe throughout the battle).		Note that you can use this tactic well into the game. 25 Squaddies and 1 Commander who stays on the ship works very, very effectively. The Squaddies in the line of fire won't suffer huge morale losses when their buddies die. In addition, Squaddies in XCOM can (and often do) have better stats than the officers (unless you fire or kill low-stat officers). Basically, the idea is to minimize morale penalties (which occur when soldiers die, so you want low rank soldiers in the line of fire). And, you want to maximize morale bonuses (which occur when officers stay alive, so you want officers to be safe throughout the battle).
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	Adapted from a post by [Zeno] in xcom.co.uk, reposted by [[User:JellyfishGreen\|JellyfishGreen]] 15:34, 25 Apr 2005 (BST)		Adapted from a post by [Zeno] in xcom.co.uk, reposted by [[User:JellyfishGreen\|JellyfishGreen]] 15:34, 25 Apr 2005 (BST)

			==See Also==
	[[Category: Tactics]]		[[Category: Tactics]]

Zombie: /* Selecting your Rear Commander */ Renamed header.

2008-10-12T02:04:55Z

Selecting your Rear Commander: Renamed header.

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	This is a very useful tactic for training Rookies, particularly when training a second recovery/assault team, experienced base defenders, or just creating a decent selection of replacement soldiers.		This is a very useful tactic for training Rookies, particularly when training a second recovery/assault team, experienced base defenders, or just creating a decent selection of replacement soldiers.

	==~~Selecting your~~ Rear Commander==		==Rear Commander Selection==
	Generally, you should send the highest officer at your disposal. Even a Sergeant helps, but isn't quite effective enough. The officer's combat skills do not matter in the slightest. This is an excellent position for that "why did X-COM promote that guy again?" officer! Finally, a use for the formerly useless officers!		Generally, you should send the highest officer at your disposal. Even a Sergeant helps, but isn't quite effective enough. The officer's combat skills do not matter in the slightest. This is an excellent position for that "why did X-COM promote that guy again?" officer! Finally, a use for the formerly useless officers!

Schnobs: lots of dead rookies who panic?

2007-10-28T17:30:28Z

lots of dead rookies who panic?

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	One common problem is taking a group of Rookies into combat ~~results in lots of dead Rookies~~, ~~who~~ panic and go berserk with annoying frequency, even if they have maximum initial [[bravery]]. This is where having a '''Rear Commander''' can make all the difference.		One common problem when taking a group of Rookies into combat is that some will die, whereupon the remainder will panic and go berserk with annoying frequency, even if they have maximum initial [[bravery]]. This is where having a '''Rear Commander''' can make all the difference.

	This is because ~~higher~~ [[rank]] soldiers give a [[Morale]] bonus to all lower rank soldiers. ~~However~~, if the ~~higher~~ rank soldier is killed, ~~then all lower rank soldiers~~ will ~~be affected with a big negative to morale~~. The bonus (~~and~~ penalty) is ~~greater if~~ the ~~difference~~ in ~~rank is greater~~.		This is because high [[rank]] soldiers give a [[Morale]] bonus to all lower rank soldiers. Unfortunately, this works both ways: if the high rank soldier is killed, morale will drop sharply. The higher the rank, the greater the bonus (or penalty). Maintaining a high morale thus becomes a problem of ensuring the officer's survival. A tried-and-proved approach is for the officer to act as a rear commander who remains in the safety of the transport craft, providing moral support and encouragement via radio to the rookies (he's a strategic officer, not a field officer).

	~~The only problem is ensuring the officer survives. If all thirteen Rookies are alive and well, but the officer goes down you can expect utter chaos. Regardless of this proviso it~~ is a very useful tactic for training Rookies, particularly when training a second recovery/assault team, experienced base defenders, or just creating a decent selection of replacement soldiers.		This is a very useful tactic for training Rookies, particularly when training a second recovery/assault team, experienced base defenders, or just creating a decent selection of replacement soldiers.

	==Selecting your Rear Commander==		==Selecting your Rear Commander==
	A Sergeant helps, but isn't quite effective enough~~. However, if you bring a Captain (or even better, a Colonel or the [[Commander]]) along with thirteen Rookies in a [[Skyranger]], your morale problems are over~~. The officer ~~stays~~ in the ~~Skyranger, providing moral support and encouragement via radio to the rookies (he's a strategic~~ officer, ~~not~~ a ~~field officer).~~		Generally, you should send the highest officer at your disposal. Even a Sergeant helps, but isn't quite effective enough. The officer's combat skills do not matter in the slightest. This is an excellent position for that "why did X-COM promote that guy again?" officer! Finally, a use for the formerly useless officers!

	~~The officer's skills do not matter in the slightest. This is an excellent position for that "why did X-COM promote that guy again?" officer! Finally, a use for the formerly useless officers!~~		Note that if you deliberately only take one officer, you're pretty much safe from morale issues. If you have a Colonel, a couple Captains, four Sergeants, and 7 Rookies, the Rookies will start to panic when you lose any of the numerous officers (though they might bear the loss of two Seargeants). But if you have only one officer, and the officer is alive, you can lose 7-8 Rookies before they start to panic.

	Note that if you deliberately only take one officer, you ~~never suffer~~ morale ~~penalties for losing other officers in the field~~. If you have a Colonel, a couple Captains, four Sergeants, and 7 Rookies, the Rookies will start to panic when you lose ~~a Sergeant or~~ two~~, or a Captain~~. If you have one officer, and the officer is alive, you can lose 7-8 Rookies before they start to panic.

	==Benefits==		==Benefits==
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	*The rookies will gain much more [[experience]], as they will make all the shots and all the kills. This keeps your officer from stealing all the experience with her superior skills.		*The rookies will gain much more [[experience]], as they will make all the shots and all the kills. This keeps your officer from stealing all the experience with her superior skills.

	*If you give the Rear Commander a [[Mind Probe]], [[Blaster Launcher]], or (assuming sufficient ~~[[Psi Strength]] and~~ [[Psi Skill]]) a [[Psi-Amp]], a Rear Commander can still participate in the battle from the safety of the dropship.		*If you give the Rear Commander a [[Mind Probe]], [[Blaster Launcher]], or (assuming sufficient [[Psi Skill]]) a [[Psi-Amp]], a Rear Commander can still participate in the battle from the safety of the dropship. Read the safety instructions before using the Blaster Launcher in confined places, though.

	Note that you can use this tactic well into the game. 25 Squaddies and 1 Commander who stays on the ship works very, very effectively. The Squaddies in the line of fire won't suffer huge morale losses when their buddies die. In addition, Squaddies in XCOM can (and often do) have better stats than the officers (unless you fire or kill low-stat officers). Basically, the idea is to minimize morale penalties (which occur when soldiers die, so you want low rank soldiers in the line of fire). And, you want to maximize morale bonuses (which occur when officers stay alive, so you want officers to be safe throughout the battle).		Note that you can use this tactic well into the game. 25 Squaddies and 1 Commander who stays on the ship works very, very effectively. The Squaddies in the line of fire won't suffer huge morale losses when their buddies die. In addition, Squaddies in XCOM can (and often do) have better stats than the officers (unless you fire or kill low-stat officers). Basically, the idea is to minimize morale penalties (which occur when soldiers die, so you want low rank soldiers in the line of fire). And, you want to maximize morale bonuses (which occur when officers stay alive, so you want officers to be safe throughout the battle).

Arrow Quivershaft: /* Benefits */ Rear Commanders are often well served by carrying Mind Probes, Psi-Amps, or Blaster Launchers.

2007-10-28T15:04:06Z

Benefits: Rear Commanders are often well served by carrying Mind Probes, Psi-Amps, or Blaster Launchers.

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	*The rookies will gain much more [[experience]], as they will make all the shots and all the kills. This keeps your officer from stealing all the experience with her superior skills.		*The rookies will gain much more [[experience]], as they will make all the shots and all the kills. This keeps your officer from stealing all the experience with her superior skills.

			*If you give the Rear Commander a [[Mind Probe]], [[Blaster Launcher]], or (assuming sufficient [[Psi Strength]] and [[Psi Skill]]) a [[Psi-Amp]], a Rear Commander can still participate in the battle from the safety of the dropship.

	Note that you can use this tactic well into the game. 25 Squaddies and 1 Commander who stays on the ship works very, very effectively. The Squaddies in the line of fire won't suffer huge morale losses when their buddies die. In addition, Squaddies in XCOM can (and often do) have better stats than the officers (unless you fire or kill low-stat officers). Basically, the idea is to minimize morale penalties (which occur when soldiers die, so you want low rank soldiers in the line of fire). And, you want to maximize morale bonuses (which occur when officers stay alive, so you want officers to be safe throughout the battle).		Note that you can use this tactic well into the game. 25 Squaddies and 1 Commander who stays on the ship works very, very effectively. The Squaddies in the line of fire won't suffer huge morale losses when their buddies die. In addition, Squaddies in XCOM can (and often do) have better stats than the officers (unless you fire or kill low-stat officers). Basically, the idea is to minimize morale penalties (which occur when soldiers die, so you want low rank soldiers in the line of fire). And, you want to maximize morale bonuses (which occur when officers stay alive, so you want officers to be safe throughout the battle).