Orange Pad Re-inforcement Spawns - Revision history

EsTeR: item limits tested inside mega-primus... 500 confirmed

2023-12-04T12:45:30Z

item limits tested inside mega-primus... 500 confirmed

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 __NOTOC__
-An informal page showing results of various alien quantity tests using edited values to minimise variables:
+An informal page of testing item limits.
-==Tests of Alien Loads And Timers==
+==Item Limits==
 These stress tests used ''Score = 1'' each for gun and alien. Initial Anthropods=6, Gun x6.<br>
 * Agents and loadouts were reduced to the minimum suitable: Agents=8, Lawpistol=1, Cloak=1, Armor=5pieces. 56 total items.<br>

EsTeR: de-cat

2023-11-16T18:31:50Z

de-cat

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	* [[Alien_Buildings_And_Combat_Tactics\|Alien Buildings]]		* [[Alien_Buildings_And_Combat_Tactics\|Alien Buildings]]
	* [[Alien_Life_Forms_(Apocalypse)\|Alien Lifeforms]]		* [[Alien_Life_Forms_(Apocalypse)\|Alien Lifeforms]]


	~~[[Category: Apocalypse]]~~

EsTeR: add cat

2023-10-29T00:45:48Z

add cat

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 __NOTOC__
-This is here as to not clutter the [[Known_Bugs_(Apocalypse)#Spawn_Camping_Crash|bugs]] page.
+This is here as to not clutter the [[Known_Bugs_(Apocalypse)#Spawn_Camping_Crash|bugs]] page. [[User:EsTeR|EsTeR]]
-==Spawn Camping Tests==
+An informal page showing results of various alien quantity tests using edited values to minimise variables:
-==Conservative Results==
+==Tests of Alien Loads And Timers==
 These stress tests used ''Score = 1'' each for gun and alien. Initial Anthropods=6, Gun x6.<br>
 * Agents and loadouts were reduced to the minimum suitable: Agents=8, Lawpistol=1, Cloak=1, Armor=5pieces. 56 total items.<br>
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 * [[Alien_Buildings_And_Combat_Tactics|Alien Buildings]]
 * [[Alien_Life_Forms_(Apocalypse)|Alien Lifeforms]]

EsTeR at 22:46, 17 September 2023

2023-09-17T22:46:04Z

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	:Combat = 668<br>		:Combat = 668<br>
	:Equipment = 666<br>		:Equipment = 666<br>
	Notes: 668 anthros killed according to score. Add up quantity of aliens killed (8xagent's kill count from zero) and it becomes 913 kills! So now it looks like Combat rating is not correct versus actual kill count. This is becoming a headache. Items again surpassed limit and are exact as before in Test 1 and 2. Active combat timer is less than 4 hours now, being ~220minutes and also again: item drop qty does not match with alien death qty (913) but it does closely with combat rating 668 vs 666.		Notes: 668 anthros killed according to score. Add up quantity of aliens killed (8xagent's kill count from zero) and it becomes 913 kills! So now it looks like Combat rating is not correct versus actual kill count. This is becoming a headache. Items again surpassed limit and are exact as before in Test 1 and 2. Active combat timer is less than 4 hours now, being ~220minutes and also again: item drop qty does not match with alien death qty (913) but it does closely with combat rating 668 vs 666.<br>
	<u>'''Test4''': Sleeping Chamber</u><br>		<u>'''Test4''': Sleeping Chamber</u><br>
	Gametime: doesn't matter since it was corpse recovery test but it lasted a few hours.<br>		Gametime: doesn't matter since it was corpse recovery test but it lasted a few hours.<br>

EsTeR: sort-of conclusion

2022-10-22T16:29:02Z

sort-of conclusion

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	:Combat = 704<br>		:Combat = 704<br>
	:Equipment = 704 <br>		:Equipment = 704 <br>
	Notes: Using new setup: Anthros + ~~Brainsuckers~~(Score=1) with no ammo. Agents x12 with only LawPistol (recharges). No armor, no cloak. 704 kills so far since ended mission early. Items recovered (confirmed at base) = 704 ~~brainsuckers~~ + 48 corpses. Scores match now. What is the upper limit to kills since it is confirmed that 60 is the unit/corpse limit.<br>		Notes: Using new setup: Anthros + Brainsucker Launchers(Score=1) with no ammo. Agents x12 with only LawPistol (recharges). No armor, no cloak. 704 kills so far since ended mission early. Items recovered (confirmed at base) = 704 brainsucker launchers + 48 corpses. Scores match now. What is the upper limit to kills since it is confirmed that 60 is the unit/corpse limit.<br>
	<u>'''Test5''': Sleeping Chamber</u><br>		<u>'''Test5''': Sleeping Chamber</u><br>
	SPAWNS ARE UNLIMITED!!		SPAWNS ARE UNLIMITED!!
	...but not without some help. Since it is known that old corpses will be removed if there are too many just before a new spawn appears, there is a way to make spawn unlimited. Equipment dropped by the dead must be destroyed!<br>		...but not without some help. Since it is known that old corpses will be removed if there are too many just before a new spawn appears, there is a way to make spawn unlimited. Equipment dropped by the dead must be destroyed!<br>
	The items on the ground limit the spawn quantity ~~so this means~~ that there is an item limit: approximately 750 items in total.<br>		The items on the ground will limit the spawn quantity. This confirms that there is an item limit (unknown exactly): approximately 750 items in total.<br>
	To make it easy: (know which aliens can spawn, each bulding's timer, face agents towards the center of the battlescape)		====Setup====
			To make it easy: know which aliens can spawn, each bulding's timer, face agents towards the center of the battlescape if they are near the map edge.
	* Set up an ambush somewhere at Level One is possible. Level one is preferred since it cannot make craters.		* Set up an ambush somewhere at Level One is possible. Level one is preferred since it cannot make craters.
	* Funnel the aliens into this ambush ~~point~~ by removing ramps to other accessible areas. Setting up the best location will be guesswork since some aliens just stand around after spawning and it will depend on the battlescape layout. Skeletoids will limit the ambush effectiveness.		* Funnel the aliens into this ambush by removing ramps to other accessible areas. Setting up the best location will be guesswork since some aliens just stand around after spawning, and it will depend on the battlescape layout. Skeletoids will limit the ambush effectiveness.
	* Kill them in this ambush zone if possible ~~since a grenade~~ explosion can remove bulk items easily, otherwise ~~detonate~~ one over the alien's pile of dropped stuff every so often.		* Kill them in this ambush zone if possible. An explosion can remove bulk items easily, otherwise a live grenade one over the alien's pile of dropped stuff every so often.
	* If the aliens stop spawning, it is time for a cleanup of items around the battlescape. Collect them and destroy them.		* If the aliens stop spawning, it is time for a cleanup of items around the battlescape. Collect them and destroy them.
	* Filling your agents inventory does not work since the item is still present. It must be destroyed if you want spawns to continue.<br>		* Filling your agents inventory does not work since the item is still present. It must be destroyed if you want spawns to continue.<br>
	* Each destroyed pad is worth one to four more new spawns if wanting to further customise the spawn location to enable an easier ambush!		* Each destroyed pad is worth one to four more new spawns if wanting to further customise the spawn location to enable an easier ambush!
			* Building your agents attributes to become super-soldiers is not important since <s>cannon-fodder</s> agents are unlimited in supply within Mega-Primus.

	These are ongoing tests whenever...		These are ongoing tests whenever...

	==Cautions==		==Cautions==
	There is a [[Known_Bugs_(Apocalypse)#Spawn_Camping_Crash\|critical bug]] which is caused by too many items on the ground regarding view.		There is a [[Known_Bugs_(Apocalypse)#Spawn_Camping_Crash\|critical bug]] which is caused by too many items on the ground regarding overhead view.

EsTeR: not here

2022-10-12T20:53:59Z

not here

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	__NOTOC__		__NOTOC__
	This is here as to not clutter the [[Known_Bugs_(Apocalypse)#Spawn_Camping_Crash\|bugs]] page.		This is here as to not clutter the [[Known_Bugs_(Apocalypse)#Spawn_Camping_Crash\|bugs]] page.

	~~==Corrupted Re-inforcement Pad==~~
	~~This is the overhead view of the orange pads within the [[Food Chamber]]. It is only only a visual thing and does not effect their operation. The exit-tiles may also be facing the wrong way.~~
	~~[[Image:AlnDim-Food-Pads-Error-(Apocalypse).png\|left]]~~
	~~<br clear=all>~~

	==Spawn Camping Tests==		==Spawn Camping Tests==

EsTeR: slight re-write

2022-10-06T15:35:53Z

slight re-write

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	SPAWNS ARE UNLIMITED!!		SPAWNS ARE UNLIMITED!!
	...but not without some help. Since it is known that old corpses will be removed if there are too many just before a new spawn appears, there is a way to make spawn unlimited. Equipment dropped by the dead must be destroyed!<br>		...but not without some help. Since it is known that old corpses will be removed if there are too many just before a new spawn appears, there is a way to make spawn unlimited. Equipment dropped by the dead must be destroyed!<br>
	The items on the ground limit the spawn quantity so this means that there ~~'''~~is~~'''~~ an item limit ~~which seems to be~~ approximately 750.<br>		The items on the ground limit the spawn quantity so this means that there is an item limit: approximately 750 items in total.<br>
	To make it easy:		To make it easy: (know which aliens can spawn, each bulding's timer, face agents towards the center of the battlescape)
	* Set up ~~and~~ ambush somewhere at Level One is possible. Level one is preferred since it cannot make craters.		* Set up an ambush somewhere at Level One is possible. Level one is preferred since it cannot make craters.
	* Funnel the aliens into this ambush point by removing ramps to other accessible areas. Setting up the best location will be guesswork since some aliens just stand around after spawning and it will depend on the battlescape layout.		* Funnel the aliens into this ambush point by removing ramps to other accessible areas. Setting up the best location will be guesswork since some aliens just stand around after spawning and it will depend on the battlescape layout. Skeletoids will limit the ambush effectiveness.
	* Kill them ~~and hope~~ a grenade ~~goes off or pick~~ one ~~up and detonate it~~ over the alien's pile of dropped stuff every so often.		* Kill them in this ambush zone if possible since a grenade explosion can remove bulk items easily, otherwise detonate one over the alien's pile of dropped stuff every so often.
	* If the aliens stop spawning, it is time for a cleanup of items around the battlescape. Collect them and destroy them.		* If the aliens stop spawning, it is time for a cleanup of items around the battlescape. Collect them and destroy them.
	* Filling your agents inventory does not work since the item is still present. It must be destroyed if you want spawns to continue.<br>		* Filling your agents inventory does not work since the item is still present. It must be destroyed if you want spawns to continue.<br>
	~~Is this too just much?~~		* Each destroyed pad is worth one to four more new spawns if wanting to further customise the spawn location to enable an easier ambush!
	* Each pad is worth one to four new spawns~~! ...but make sure not~~ to ~~destroy~~ the ~~(isometric) northern-most one.~~

	These are ongoing tests whenever...		These are ongoing tests whenever...

EsTeR at 22:13, 5 October 2022

2022-10-05T22:13:46Z

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	:Equipment = 704 <br>		:Equipment = 704 <br>
	Notes: Using new setup: Anthros + Brainsuckers(Score=1) with no ammo. Agents x12 with only LawPistol (recharges). No armor, no cloak. 704 kills so far since ended mission early. Items recovered (confirmed at base) = 704 brainsuckers + 48 corpses. Scores match now. What is the upper limit to kills since it is confirmed that 60 is the unit/corpse limit.<br>		Notes: Using new setup: Anthros + Brainsuckers(Score=1) with no ammo. Agents x12 with only LawPistol (recharges). No armor, no cloak. 704 kills so far since ended mission early. Items recovered (confirmed at base) = 704 brainsuckers + 48 corpses. Scores match now. What is the upper limit to kills since it is confirmed that 60 is the unit/corpse limit.<br>
	<u>'''~~Test4~~''': Sleeping Chamber</u><br>		<u>'''Test5''': Sleeping Chamber</u><br>
	SPAWNS ARE UNLIMITED!!		SPAWNS ARE UNLIMITED!!
	...but not without some help. Since it is known that old corpses will be removed if there are too many just before a new spawn appears, there is a way to make spawn unlimited. Equipment dropped by the dead must be destroyed!<br>		...but not without some help. Since it is known that old corpses will be removed if there are too many just before a new spawn appears, there is a way to make spawn unlimited. Equipment dropped by the dead must be destroyed!<br>

EsTeR at 22:13, 5 October 2022

2022-10-05T22:13:12Z

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	:Combat = 704<br>		:Combat = 704<br>
	:Equipment = 704 <br>		:Equipment = 704 <br>
	Notes: Using new setup: Anthros + Brainsuckers(Score=1) with no ammo. Agents x12 with only LawPistol (recharges). No armor, no cloak. 704 kills so far since ended mission early. Items recovered (confirmed at base) = 704 brainsuckers + 48 corpses. Scores match now. What is the upper limit to kills since it is confirmed that 60 is the unit/corpse limit.		Notes: Using new setup: Anthros + Brainsuckers(Score=1) with no ammo. Agents x12 with only LawPistol (recharges). No armor, no cloak. 704 kills so far since ended mission early. Items recovered (confirmed at base) = 704 brainsuckers + 48 corpses. Scores match now. What is the upper limit to kills since it is confirmed that 60 is the unit/corpse limit.<br>
	<u>'''Test4''': Sleeping Chamber</u><br>		<u>'''Test4''': Sleeping Chamber</u><br>
	SPAWNS ARE UNLIMITED!!		SPAWNS ARE UNLIMITED!!

EsTeR: I know there are unlimited spawns... I finally worked it out.

2022-10-05T22:11:49Z

I know there are unlimited spawns... I finally worked it out.

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 :Equipment = 704 <br>
 Notes: Using new setup: Anthros + Brainsuckers(Score=1) with no ammo. Agents x12 with only LawPistol (recharges). No armor, no cloak. 704 kills so far since ended mission early. Items recovered (confirmed at base) = 704 brainsuckers + 48 corpses. Scores match now. What is the upper limit to kills since it is confirmed that 60 is the unit/corpse limit.
 These are ongoing tests whenever...