Manufacturing Profitability - Revision history

Rookie4682: The Psi Amp link did not go to the Psi-Amp page. Attempted to correct link

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The Psi Amp link did not go to the Psi-Amp page. Attempted to correct link

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Jokes Free4Me: /* XComUtil manufacturing profitability */ + link, and tweaking the phrasing

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XComUtil manufacturing profitability: + link, and tweaking the phrasing

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	Under XcomUtil there is an option called (slightly misleadingly) "new laser weapons" that requires the use of extra alien materials in order to manufacture almost all energy beam weapons. It also makes the human manufacture of the alien plasma beam small arms impossible (research success merely allows X-COM to <u>use</u> captured weapons). The manufacture of craft Plasma Beams is still possible, but is made significantly more difficult (ten times the labour and workspace requirement as well as additional materials). This, as Scott Jones says, "seriously changes the economics of the game", as well as the balance of firepower in the air and (to a lesser extent) on the ground.		Under [[XcomUtil]] there is an option called (slightly misleadingly) "new laser weapons" that requires the use of extra alien materials in order to manufacture almost all energy beam weapons. It also makes the human manufacture of the alien plasma beam small arms impossible (research success merely allows X-COM to <u>use</u> captured weapons). The manufacture of craft Plasma Beams is still possible, but is made significantly more difficult (ten times the labour and workspace requirement as well as additional materials). This, as Scott Jones says, "seriously changes the economics of the game", as well as the balance of firepower in the air and (to a lesser extent) on the ground.

	When this XComUtil option is active there are only 7 profitable items to manufacture instead of 14.		When this XComUtil option is active there are only 7 profitable items to manufacture instead of 14.

	In order of decreasing profitability per month ~~(indexed to 100)~~ these are:		In order of decreasing profitability per month these are:

	:Fusion Ball Launcher (100), Psi Amp (53), Motion Scanner (38), Medkit (19), Laser Pistol (10), Blaster Launcher (9), Small Launcher (9).		:Fusion Ball Launcher (100%), Psi Amp (53%), Motion Scanner (38%), Medkit (19%), Laser Pistol (10%), Blaster Launcher (9%), Small Launcher (9%).

	In fact the profitability of all these items is unchanged from the standard game; you still make 1,480,000 per month for the FBL with one workshop, etc. What changes is that 7 items, notably the Laser Cannon, disappear from the profitable list. But you can still get rich quick, even if the FBL is only 75% as profitable as the Laser Cannon in unmodified X-COM.		In fact the profitability of all these items is unchanged from the standard game; you still make 1,480,000 per month for the FBL with one workshop, etc. What changes is that 7 items, notably the Laser Cannon, disappear from the profitable list. But you can still get rich quick, even if the FBL is only 75% as profitable as the Laser Cannon was in unmodified X-COM.

	A spreadsheet containing the analysis is here: [[Media:XCOMUtil_Profits.xls\|XComUtil Profits]].		A spreadsheet containing the analysis is here: [[Media:XCOMUtil_Profits.xls\|XComUtil Profits]].

Jokes Free4Me: /* Profit tables */ added missing info and more details

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Profit tables: added missing info and more details

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 '''Legend:'''
 *'''Hrs. per unit''' are the number of hours needed by one engineer to build a single unit
 *'''Max Engrs.''' equals 50 minus the amount of workshop space taken up by the project

Hobbes: categorizing

2013-07-23T02:45:14Z

categorizing

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	[[Category: data tables]]		[[Category: data tables]]
			[[Category:Enemy Unknown/UFO Defense]]

Spike: /* See Also */

2012-09-10T22:45:14Z

FrederikHertzum: 8 bits cannot possibly store that much information! maybe the OP ment that much of the game information is stored in singular bytes, rather than a lot of the game information is stored in one byte!

2011-01-18T01:10:32Z

8 bits cannot possibly store that much information! maybe the OP ment that much of the game information is stored in singular bytes, rather than a lot of the game information is stored in one byte!

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	== Bugs ==		== Bugs ==

	* In UFO: Enemy Unknown (and most likely all the other XCOM and TFTD versions) you can overflow the variable that holds the number of engineers. It is stored in a single byte~~, along with much of the data in the game~~, so if you get more than 255 engineers at one base, the number will wrap around. Instead of storing the correct number of engineers, it will divide the number by 256 and store the remainder.		* In UFO: Enemy Unknown (and most likely all the other XCOM and TFTD versions) you can overflow the variable that holds the number of engineers. It is stored in a single byte, so if you get more than 255 engineers at one base, the number will wrap around. Instead of storing the correct number of engineers, it will divide the number by 256 and store the remainder.
	If you get exactly 256 engineers your base will have 0.		If you get exactly 256 engineers your base will have 0.
	If you want to play the game fairly, make sure there is never more than 255 engineers at a base.		If you want to play the game fairly, make sure there is never more than 255 engineers at a base.

FrederikHertzum: fixed minor typo

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fixed minor typo

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	=== Simplified LC vs FBL profitability ===		=== Simplified LC vs FBL profitability ===

	Take an example where you start the month with $1,000,000 and 80 alloys, 44 engineers, 1 workshop. Manufacturing FBLs and selling them will end the month with $$3,000,000 and 0 alloys. Manufacturing LCs and selling them, keeping the alloys, will end the month with $ $2,968,000 and 80 alloys. Manufacturing LCs and selling them, also selling the alloys, will end the month with $3,488,000 and 0 alloys.		Take an example where you start the month with $1,000,000 and 80 alloys, 44 engineers, 1 workshop. Manufacturing FBLs and selling them will end the month with $3,000,000 and 0 alloys. Manufacturing LCs and selling them, keeping the alloys, will end the month with $ $2,968,000 and 80 alloys. Manufacturing LCs and selling them, also selling the alloys, will end the month with $3,488,000 and 0 alloys.

	It's clear which is the winner.		It's clear which is the winner.

Spike: /* See Also */ link to TFTD

2009-08-09T02:50:48Z

Hajo: /* Bugs */

2009-07-24T16:27:55Z

Bugs

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	If you don't mind exploiting the bug to make lots of money, then read on.		If you don't mind exploiting the bug to make lots of money, then read on.

	The easiest way to start this is to assign your engineers to build something. Wait until you have enough living quarters, and then buy enough engineers to have exactly 256 (costs $12.8 million for all the engineers, so save up to get them all in 1 month and not pay any salaries). Once the 256 engineers have all arrived, the game will call it 0. You won't need to house them any longer. You won't need to pay their salaries. You'll just need workshop space for them. There is a second bug in UFO: Enemy Unknown where it only makes sure you don't allocate an engineer when you have 0 available engineers.		The easiest way to start this is to assign your engineers to build something.
			Wait until you have enough living quarters, and then buy enough engineers to have exactly 256 (costs $12.8 million for all the engineers, so save up to get them all in 1 month and not pay any salaries). Once the 256 engineers have all arrived, the game will call it 0. You won't need to house them any longer. You won't need to pay their salaries. You'll just need workshop space for them.

			There is a second bug in UFO: Enemy Unknown where it only makes sure you don't allocate an engineer when you have 0 available engineers.
	It doesn't stop you if you have a negative number of available engineers.		It doesn't stop you if you have a negative number of available engineers.
	If you have 10 engineers building a Laser Cannon and 0 engineers at the base, you will have -10 engineers available for manufacturing items.		If you have 10 engineers building a Laser Cannon and 0 engineers at the base, you will have -10 engineers available for manufacturing items.
	'''THE GAME WILL NOT CARE HOW MANY ENGINEERS YOU ASSIGN AT THIS POINT.'''		'''THE GAME WILL NOT CARE HOW MANY ENGINEERS YOU ASSIGN AT THIS POINT.'''
	Your only limitation is how much workshop space you have. If you build 17 workshops at one base, it can produce a Laser Cannon, a Fusion Ball Launcher, and an Alien Alloy every single hour.		Your only limitation is how much workshop space you have. If you build 17 workshops at one base, it can produce a Laser Cannon, a Fusion Ball Launcher, and an Alien Alloy every single hour.
	Personally, I recommend having most of your bases with the following: 1 Access Lift (needed), 1 Living Quarters (for soldiers), 1 Hangar (with Avenger), 1 General Stores, 1 Mind Shield, 1 Hyper-Wave Decoder, 1 Psionic Laboratory, and 26 Workshops. Then you can manufacture 1 Laser Cannon and almost 1 Tank/Laser Cannon every hour (skip the hangar for 1 every hour). These only require money to build (watch that, because if you run out and all production stops, you can't allocate any engineers) and produce large amounts of income.
			Personally, I recommend having most of your bases with the following: 1 Access Lift (needed), 1 Living Quarters (for soldiers), 1 Hangar (with Avenger), 1 General Stores, 1 Mind Shield, 1 Hyper-Wave Decoder, 1 Psionic Laboratory, and 26 Workshops.
			Then you can manufacture 1 Laser Cannon and almost 1 Tank/Laser Cannon every hour (skip the hangar for 1 every hour). These only require money to build (watch that, because if you run out and all production stops, you can't allocate any engineers) and produce large amounts of income.

	There is also a [[Known_Bugs#Manufacturing_Limit_Bug\|known bug]] associated with display times.		There is also a [[Known_Bugs#Manufacturing_Limit_Bug\|known bug]] associated with display times.

Hajo: /* Bugs */ Typo

2009-07-24T16:26:48Z

Bugs: Typo

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	== Bugs ==		== Bugs ==

	* In UFO: Enemy Unknown (and most likely all the other XCOM and TFTD versions) you can overflow the variable that holds the number of engineers. It is stored in a single byte, along with much of the data in the game, so if you get more than 255 engineers at one base, the number will wrap around. Instead of storing the correct number of engineers, it will divide the number by 256 and store the remainder. If you get exactly 256 engineers your base will have 0. If you want to play the game fairly, make sure there is never more than 255 engineers at a base. If you don't mind exploiting the bug to make lots of money, then read on.		* In UFO: Enemy Unknown (and most likely all the other XCOM and TFTD versions) you can overflow the variable that holds the number of engineers. It is stored in a single byte, along with much of the data in the game, so if you get more than 255 engineers at one base, the number will wrap around. Instead of storing the correct number of engineers, it will divide the number by 256 and store the remainder.
			If you get exactly 256 engineers your base will have 0.
			If you want to play the game fairly, make sure there is never more than 255 engineers at a base.
			If you don't mind exploiting the bug to make lots of money, then read on.

	The easiest way to start this is to assign your engineers to build something. Wait until you have enough living quarters, and then buy enough engineers to have exactly 256 (costs $12.8 million for all the engineers, so save up to get them all in 1 month and not pay any salaries). Once the 256 engineers have all arrived, the game will call it 0. You won't need to house them any longer. You won't need to pay their salaries. You'll just need workshop space for them. There is a second bug in UFO: Enemy Unknown where it only makes sure you don't allocate an engineer when you have 0 available engineers. It doesn't stop you if you have a negative number of available engineers. If you have 10 engineers building a Laser Cannon and 0 engineers at the base, you will have -10 engineers available for manufacturing items. '''THE GAME WILL NOT CARE HOW MANY ENGINEERS YOU ASSIGN AT THIS POINT.''' Your only limitation is how much workshop space you have. If you build 17 workshops at one base, it can produce a Laser Cannon, a Fusion Ball Launcher, and an Alien Alloy every single hour. Personally, I recommend having most of your bases with the following: 1 Access Lift (needed), 1 Living Quarters (for soldiers), 1 ~~Hanger~~ (with Avenger), 1 General Stores, 1 Mind Shield, 1 Hyper-Wave Decoder, 1 Psionic Laboratory, and 26 Workshops. ~~You~~ can ~~then~~ manufacture 1 Laser Cannon and almost 1 Tank/Laser Cannon every hour (skip the ~~hanger~~ for 1 every hour). These only require money to build (watch that because if you run out and all production stops, you can't allocate any engineers) and produce large amounts of income.		The easiest way to start this is to assign your engineers to build something. Wait until you have enough living quarters, and then buy enough engineers to have exactly 256 (costs $12.8 million for all the engineers, so save up to get them all in 1 month and not pay any salaries). Once the 256 engineers have all arrived, the game will call it 0. You won't need to house them any longer. You won't need to pay their salaries. You'll just need workshop space for them. There is a second bug in UFO: Enemy Unknown where it only makes sure you don't allocate an engineer when you have 0 available engineers.
			It doesn't stop you if you have a negative number of available engineers.
			If you have 10 engineers building a Laser Cannon and 0 engineers at the base, you will have -10 engineers available for manufacturing items.
			'''THE GAME WILL NOT CARE HOW MANY ENGINEERS YOU ASSIGN AT THIS POINT.'''
			Your only limitation is how much workshop space you have. If you build 17 workshops at one base, it can produce a Laser Cannon, a Fusion Ball Launcher, and an Alien Alloy every single hour.
			Personally, I recommend having most of your bases with the following: 1 Access Lift (needed), 1 Living Quarters (for soldiers), 1 Hangar (with Avenger), 1 General Stores, 1 Mind Shield, 1 Hyper-Wave Decoder, 1 Psionic Laboratory, and 26 Workshops. Then you can manufacture 1 Laser Cannon and almost 1 Tank/Laser Cannon every hour (skip the hangar for 1 every hour). These only require money to build (watch that, because if you run out and all production stops, you can't allocate any engineers) and produce large amounts of income.

	There is also a [[Known_Bugs#Manufacturing_Limit_Bug\|known bug]] associated with display times.		There is also a [[Known_Bugs#Manufacturing_Limit_Bug\|known bug]] associated with display times.

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	*[[PRODUCT.DAT]] for X-COM's "source data" on manufactured items		*[[PRODUCT.DAT]] for X-COM's "source data" on manufactured items

	*[[Buying/Selling/Transferring (TFTD)#Manufacturable Prices\|TFTD Manufacturing ~~Profitabilty~~]]		*[[Buying/Selling/Transferring (TFTD)#Manufacturable Prices\|TFTD Manufacturing Profitability]]

	[[Category: data tables]]		[[Category: data tables]]

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	*[[Workshop]]		*[[Workshop]]
	* [[Research]]		*[[Research]]
	*[[Hiring/firing]]		*[[Hiring/firing]]
	*[[Buying/Selling/Transferring#Manufacturable Prices]] for a list of build and sell prices for all manufacturable items (plus special materials requried).		*[[Buying/Selling/Transferring#Manufacturable Prices]] for a list of build and sell prices for all manufacturable items (plus special materials requried).
	*[[PRODUCT.DAT]] for X-COM's "source data" on manufactured items		*[[PRODUCT.DAT]] for X-COM's "source data" on manufactured items

			*[[Buying/Selling/Transferring (TFTD)#Manufacturable Prices\|TFTD Manufacturing Profitabilty]]

	[[Category: data tables]]		[[Category: data tables]]