Heavy Weapons Platforms - Revision history

SomeUser at 16:17, 29 August 2023

2023-08-29T16:17:16Z

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	*Tanks start off with fairly decent stats, except for their Reactions, which are extremely low.		*Tanks start off with fairly decent stats, except for their Reactions, which are extremely low.
	**Tanks have greater Time Units than normal [[Soldiers\|soldiers]] and also regenerate to full Energy every turn, which can be quite a big advantage when crossing rough or uphill terrain, making them excellent as scouts.		**Tanks have greater Time Units than normal [[Soldiers\|soldiers]] and also regenerate to full Energy every turn, which can be quite a big advantage when crossing rough or uphill terrain, making them excellent as scouts.
	*Tanks have huge Health and massive armor, especially the Hovertanks. This lets them often remain unscathed from shots that would have killed a normal unarmored soldier, and Hovertanks can take more damage before being destroyed than even the best soldier wearing a Flying Suit, EXCEPT for explosive weapons, which do 4x damage to tanks.		*Tanks have huge Health and massive armor (but can be one-shot killed), especially the Hovertanks. This lets them often remain unscathed from shots that would have killed a normal unarmored soldier, and Hovertanks can take more damage before being destroyed than even the best soldier wearing a Flying Suit, EXCEPT for explosive weapons, which do 4x damage to tanks.
	*Tanks are counted as items, not staff. This lets them be stored in general storage instead of Living Quarters.		*Tanks are counted as items, not staff. This lets them be stored in general storage instead of Living Quarters.
	*When starting up a new base and fearing alien attacks, it's convenient to buy/send a couple of HWPs there on guard duty. You still need at least one soldier on duty there for a base defense though.		*When starting up a new base and fearing alien attacks, it's convenient to buy/send a couple of HWPs there on guard duty. You still need at least one soldier on duty there for a base defense though.

Magic9mushroom at 07:38, 1 May 2015

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	With the exception of the [[Tank/Laser Cannon]] and the [[Hovertank/Plasma]], you must have sufficient ammunition in your stores before loading the tank onto a transport craft.		With the exception of the [[Tank/Laser Cannon]] and the [[Hovertank/Plasma]], you must have sufficient ammunition in your stores before loading the tank onto a transport craft.

	A special allowance is made for protecting bases during attacks if you do not have ammunition available. Tanks will always be granted a full payload of ammunition. Any rounds remaining after a successful [[Base ~~Defense\|base defense~~]] will be added to your stores.		A special allowance is made for protecting bases during attacks if you do not have ammunition available. Tanks will always be granted a full payload of ammunition. Any rounds remaining after a successful [[Base Defence]] will be added to your stores.

	== Advantages ==		== Advantages ==

Rookie4682: /* Advantages */

2015-04-24T19:22:55Z

Advantages

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	*Tanks start off with fairly decent stats, except for their Reactions, which are extremely low.		*Tanks start off with fairly decent stats, except for their Reactions, which are extremely low.
	**Tanks have greater Time Units than normal [[Soldiers\|soldiers]] and also regenerate to full Energy every turn, which can be quite a big advantage when crossing rough or uphill terrain, making them excellent as scouts.		**Tanks have greater Time Units than normal [[Soldiers\|soldiers]] and also regenerate to full Energy every turn, which can be quite a big advantage when crossing rough or uphill terrain, making them excellent as scouts.
	*Tanks have huge Health and massive armor, especially the Hovertanks. This ~~let's~~ them often remain unscathed from shots that would have killed a normal unarmored soldier, and Hovertanks can take more damage before being destroyed than even the best soldier wearing a Flying Suit, EXCEPT for explosive weapons, which do 4x damage to tanks.		*Tanks have huge Health and massive armor, especially the Hovertanks. This lets them often remain unscathed from shots that would have killed a normal unarmored soldier, and Hovertanks can take more damage before being destroyed than even the best soldier wearing a Flying Suit, EXCEPT for explosive weapons, which do 4x damage to tanks.
	*Tanks are counted as items, not staff. This lets them be stored in general storage instead of Living Quarters.		*Tanks are counted as items, not staff. This lets them be stored in general storage instead of Living Quarters.
	*When starting up a new base and fearing alien attacks, it's convenient to buy/send a couple of HWPs there on guard duty. You still need at least one soldier on duty there for a base defense though.		*When starting up a new base and fearing alien attacks, it's convenient to buy/send a couple of HWPs there on guard duty. You still need at least one soldier on duty there for a base defense though.
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	*Tanks do not draw salaries. While their initial cost is large, you don't have to keep shelling out cash every month for them. Ammunition expenses take its place.		*Tanks do not draw salaries. While their initial cost is large, you don't have to keep shelling out cash every month for them. Ammunition expenses take its place.
	*As expensive as they are, everything is included in the cost of the tank except ammunition. You do not need to buy weapons, armor or equipment for them.		*As expensive as they are, everything is included in the cost of the tank except ammunition. You do not need to buy weapons, armor or equipment for them.
	*Tanks cannot be implanted by [[Chryssalid]]s. Their bite may well destroy the tank, but at least you don't have to worry about the tank turning into a [[Zombie]]. This also means that tanks have a chance of surviving being bitten/clawed by a ~~Chrssalid~~, unlike soldiers who are automatically zombified aka insta-killed in 1 hit.		*Tanks cannot be implanted by [[Chryssalid]]s. Their bite may well destroy the tank, but at least you don't have to worry about the tank turning into a [[Zombie]]. This also means that tanks have a chance of surviving being bitten/clawed by a Chryssalid, unlike soldiers who are automatically zombified aka insta-killed in 1 hit.
	*Hovertanks, like all flying units, can avoid physical attacks from melee aliens by hovering one tile above them.		*Hovertanks, like all flying units, can avoid physical attacks from melee aliens by hovering one tile above them.
	*Losing a tank affects morale the same as losing a newbie - much less than the death of a soldier of somewhat similar stats, who would probably have earned a high officer [[rank]]. Despite being a significant [[economic]] loss, the destruction of a tank doesn't trigger the panic wave the fall of a Colonel would.		*Losing a tank affects morale the same as losing a newbie - much less than the death of a soldier of somewhat similar stats, who would probably have earned a high officer [[rank]]. Despite being a significant [[economic]] loss, the destruction of a tank doesn't trigger the panic wave the fall of a Colonel would.

Magic9mushroom: wrong data lol

2015-04-20T01:01:07Z

wrong data lol

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	*[[Tank/Cannon]] (Available from start)		*[[Tank/Cannon]] (Available from start)
	*[[Tank/Rocket Launcher]] (Available from start)		*[[Tank/Rocket Launcher]] (Available from start)
	*[[Tank/Laser Cannon]] (~~Needs~~ Laser Cannon research)		*[[Tank/Laser Cannon]] (Requires the Laser Cannon research project)
	*[[Hovertank/Plasma]] (~~Needs~~ Plasma Cannon~~, UFO Power Source and UFO Navigation researches~~)		*[[Hovertank/Plasma]] (Requires the New Fighter Craft and Plasma Cannon research projects)
	*[[Hovertank/Launcher]] (~~Same as above~~, ~~except it needs Fusion Ball~~ Launcher ~~instead of Plasma Cannon~~)		*[[Hovertank/Launcher]] (Requires the New Fighter Craft, Blaster Launcher and Blaster Bomb research projects)

	=== Types ===		=== Types ===

Hobbes: categorizing

2013-07-23T02:44:24Z

categorizing

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	[[Category:Heavy Weapons Platforms]]		[[Category:Heavy Weapons Platforms]]
	[[Category: Tactics]]		[[Category: Tactics]]
			[[Category:Enemy Unknown/UFO Defense]]

FullAuto at 14:20, 14 February 2012

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	~~== General Information ==~~

	'''Heavy Weapons Platforms''', or '''HWPs''', are small unmanned tanks. They are fast, heavily-armored, and carry specialized versions of several weapon types available to your soldiers.		'''Heavy Weapons Platforms''', or '''HWPs''', are small unmanned tanks. They are fast, heavily-armored, and carry specialized versions of several weapon types available to your soldiers.

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	*[[Hovertank/Launcher]] (Same as above, except it needs Fusion Ball Launcher instead of Plasma Cannon)		*[[Hovertank/Launcher]] (Same as above, except it needs Fusion Ball Launcher instead of Plasma Cannon)

	=== ~~Tank~~ Types ===		=== Types ===
			HWPs are divided into two distinct chassis types, the standard miniature tracked tank and the hover tank.
	~~Tanks~~ are divided into two distinct chassis types, the standard miniature tracked tank and the hover tank.

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	=== ~~Tank~~ Weapons ===		=== Weapons ===
			HWPs use turrets to fire. These turrets can turn independently of the tanks themselves. For example, if you tell a tank to fire behind itself, the turret will turn and not the tank. The turret will keep its new bearing relative to the tank until it is told to fire again. Moving the turret costs 1 [[Time Units\|TU]] per directional change. The turret do not contain any optical perception sensors, so the turret can only see what the tank sees.
	~~Tanks~~ use turrets to fire. These turrets can turn independently of the tanks themselves. For example, if you tell a tank to fire behind itself, the turret will turn and not the tank. The turret will keep its new bearing relative to the tank until it is told to fire again. Moving the turret costs 1 [[Time Units\|TU]] per directional change. The turret do not contain any optical perception sensors, so the turret can only see what the tank sees.

	With the exception of the [[Tank/Laser Cannon]] and the [[Hovertank/Plasma]], you must have sufficient ammunition in your stores before loading the tank onto a transport craft.		With the exception of the [[Tank/Laser Cannon]] and the [[Hovertank/Plasma]], you must have sufficient ammunition in your stores before loading the tank onto a transport craft.
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	*Tanks can go [[Morale#Panicking_and_Berserking\|berserk]], although only by killing a large number of friendly units (including mind-controlled aliens). Although soldiers go berserk much more easily, and can potentially kill a huge number of fellow soldiers with friendly fire, a berserk HWP will scuttle your campaign by causing your game to crash! Note that HWP/Launchers do not fire their weapon or crash the game when berserk... a significant point considering that HWP/Launchers are the biggest cause of unintentional friendly fire, other than berserk and mind control.		*Tanks can go [[Morale#Panicking_and_Berserking\|berserk]], although only by killing a large number of friendly units (including mind-controlled aliens). Although soldiers go berserk much more easily, and can potentially kill a huge number of fellow soldiers with friendly fire, a berserk HWP will scuttle your campaign by causing your game to crash! Note that HWP/Launchers do not fire their weapon or crash the game when berserk... a significant point considering that HWP/Launchers are the biggest cause of unintentional friendly fire, other than berserk and mind control.

	== See ~~Also~~ ==		== See also ==
	*[[Field Manual: HWP]]		*[[Field Manual: HWP]]
	*[[Data Canister: HWP]]		*[[Data Canister: HWP]]
	*[[Tank Comparison]]s		*[[Tank Comparison]]s
	* [[Submersible Weapons Systems\|Submersible Weapons Systems for ''Terror from the Deep'']]		* [[Submersible Weapons Systems\|Submersible Weapons Systems for ''Terror from the Deep'']]


	{{Equipment (UFO Defense) Navbar}}		{{Equipment (UFO Defense) Navbar}}
	[[Category:Heavy Weapons Platforms]]		[[Category:Heavy Weapons Platforms]]
	[[Category: Tactics]]		[[Category: Tactics]]

Spike: /* Disadvantages */ T/LC ammo not hypothetical but yes in practice rarely matters unless you are trying to clear the entire map or drill through hulls

2011-05-04T08:10:59Z

Disadvantages: T/LC ammo not hypothetical but yes in practice rarely matters unless you are trying to clear the entire map or drill through hulls

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	**Though many of the weapons are very powerful, they are reduced in effectiveness thanks to the tank's own accuracy levels.		**Though many of the weapons are very powerful, they are reduced in effectiveness thanks to the tank's own accuracy levels.
	**Plasma hovertanks are poorer than Heavy Plasmas at breaching UFO inner walls, due to a 5 point power difference (see [[Destroying Terrain]] for more details).		**Plasma hovertanks are poorer than Heavy Plasmas at breaching UFO inner walls, due to a 5 point power difference (see [[Destroying Terrain]] for more details).
	**Normal lasers have infinite ammunition for the duration of a battle, but the [[Tank/Laser Cannon]] has a limit of 255 charges, ~~hypothetically~~. In practise, this hardly matters.		**Normal lasers have infinite ammunition for the duration of a battle, but the [[Tank/Laser Cannon]] has a limit of 255 charges, like all HWP direct energy weapons. In practise, this hardly matters.
	**Launcher tanks in general have weaker missiles. [[Tank/Rocket Launcher]]s use mid-weight rockets that sit between the small and large rockets, while [[Hovertank/Launcher]] have weaker blaster bombs that cannot breach outer UFO walls.		**Launcher tanks in general have weaker missiles. [[Tank/Rocket Launcher]]s use mid-weight rockets that sit between the small and large rockets, while [[Hovertank/Launcher]] have weaker blaster bombs that cannot breach outer UFO walls.
	*Tanks cannot carry additional equipment. This means they cannot pick up loot during a hit-run-abandon mission; cannot throw smoke grenades, flares, or explosive grenades; cannot equip or use medkits...		*Tanks cannot carry additional equipment. This means they cannot pick up loot during a hit-run-abandon mission; cannot throw smoke grenades, flares, or explosive grenades; cannot equip or use medkits...

Jasonred: a point.

2011-05-03T20:41:28Z

a point.

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	**Though many of the weapons are very powerful, they are reduced in effectiveness thanks to the tank's own accuracy levels.		**Though many of the weapons are very powerful, they are reduced in effectiveness thanks to the tank's own accuracy levels.
	**Plasma hovertanks are poorer than Heavy Plasmas at breaching UFO inner walls, due to a 5 point power difference (see [[Destroying Terrain]] for more details).		**Plasma hovertanks are poorer than Heavy Plasmas at breaching UFO inner walls, due to a 5 point power difference (see [[Destroying Terrain]] for more details).
	**Normal lasers have infinite ammunition for the duration of a battle, but the [[Tank/Laser Cannon]] has a limit of 255 charges.		**Normal lasers have infinite ammunition for the duration of a battle, but the [[Tank/Laser Cannon]] has a limit of 255 charges, hypothetically. In practise, this hardly matters.
	**Launcher tanks in general have weaker missiles. [[Tank/Rocket Launcher]]s use mid-weight rockets that sit between the small and large rockets, while [[Hovertank/Launcher]] have weaker blaster bombs that cannot breach outer UFO walls.		**Launcher tanks in general have weaker missiles. [[Tank/Rocket Launcher]]s use mid-weight rockets that sit between the small and large rockets, while [[Hovertank/Launcher]] have weaker blaster bombs that cannot breach outer UFO walls.
	*Tanks cannot carry additional equipment. This means they cannot pick up loot during a hit-run-abandon mission; cannot throw smoke grenades, flares, or explosive grenades; cannot equip or use medkits...		*Tanks cannot carry additional equipment. This means they cannot pick up loot during a hit-run-abandon mission; cannot throw smoke grenades, flares, or explosive grenades; cannot equip or use medkits...

Bomb Bloke at 02:37, 18 December 2009

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	*[[Data Canister: HWP]]		*[[Data Canister: HWP]]
	*[[Tank Comparison]]s		*[[Tank Comparison]]s
			* [[Submersible Weapons Systems\|Submersible Weapons Systems for ''Terror from the Deep'']]

Jasonred: /* Disadvantages */

2009-03-29T15:24:45Z

Disadvantages

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	== Disadvantages ==		== Disadvantages ==
			*Tanks cannot perform Mind Control.
	*Tanks are much more expensive than [[Soldiers\|soldiers]] - eg $420,000 vs $40,000. Their cost and usefulness are inverse with time. When you need them for their superior mobility and defenses you cannot easily afford them. By the time you can afford them, you will already have better alternatives. They will always remain useful as expendable scouts.		*Tanks are much more expensive than [[Soldiers\|soldiers]] - eg $420,000 vs $40,000. Their cost and usefulness are inverse with time. When you need them for their superior mobility and defenses you cannot easily afford them. By the time you can afford them, you will already have better alternatives. They will always remain useful as expendable scouts.
	*Each tank takes up four soldiers' worth of space in the transport.		*Each tank takes up four soldiers' worth of space in the transport.
	*They do not gain [[experience]] during combat.		*They do not gain [[experience]] during combat.
	*Tanks have very low [[reactions]]. In other words, tanks draw fire. Aliens will prefer to ~~react against~~ tanks ~~more often~~ than your troops because tanks have low reaction levels ~~- all the time~~.		*Tanks have very low [[reactions]]. In other words, tanks draw fire. Aliens will prefer to fire on tanks than your troops because tanks have low reaction levels.
	**Many commanders consider this an advantage, however, knowing they can bring a tank in to distract the enemy from vulnerable troops. This works by making the enemy use up their remaining Time Units on an expendable decoy.		**Many commanders consider this an advantage, however, knowing they can bring a tank in to distract the enemy from vulnerable troops. This works by making the enemy use up their remaining Time Units on a tough and expendable decoy.
	*The tank's size introduces a variety of problems.		*The tank's size introduces a variety of problems.
	**They make bigger targets		**They make bigger targets
	**More damage is taken from explosives.		**More damage is taken from explosives.
	**They cannot pass through narrow gaps such as doorways.		**They cannot pass through narrow gaps such as doorways.
			**They can go up a 1 tile wide stairway (BUG), and get completely stuck upstairs, since they cannot come DOWN a 1 tile stairway.
	**They can also get stuck in walls if they fall off ledges while traveling north or east.		**They can also get stuck in walls if they fall off ledges while traveling north or east.
	**It's possible for a tank to be "halfway" (one square) past a wall and be visible to enemies and vulnerable to their fire, yet unable to spot those same enemies or return fire. This occurs because the tank can only see via one of its quarters. The others three quarters are blind.		**It's possible for a tank to be "halfway" (one square) past a wall and be visible to enemies and vulnerable to their fire, yet unable to spot those same enemies or return fire. This occurs because the tank can only see via one of its quarters. The others three quarters are blind.
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	**Normal lasers have infinite ammunition for the duration of a battle, but the [[Tank/Laser Cannon]] has a limit of 255 charges.		**Normal lasers have infinite ammunition for the duration of a battle, but the [[Tank/Laser Cannon]] has a limit of 255 charges.
	**Launcher tanks in general have weaker missiles. [[Tank/Rocket Launcher]]s use mid-weight rockets that sit between the small and large rockets, while [[Hovertank/Launcher]] have weaker blaster bombs that cannot breach outer UFO walls.		**Launcher tanks in general have weaker missiles. [[Tank/Rocket Launcher]]s use mid-weight rockets that sit between the small and large rockets, while [[Hovertank/Launcher]] have weaker blaster bombs that cannot breach outer UFO walls.
	*Tanks cannot carry additional equipment		*Tanks cannot carry additional equipment. This means they cannot pick up loot during a hit-run-abandon mission; cannot throw smoke grenades, flares, or explosive grenades; cannot equip or use medkits...
	*The aimed shots on most tanks are not worthwhile. The gain in accuracy does not nearly match the extra time units they require. This is especially true on the [[Hovertank/Plasma]].		*The aimed shots on most tanks are not worthwhile. The gain in accuracy does not nearly match the extra time units they require. This is especially true on the [[Hovertank/Plasma]].
	*Once destroyed, tanks or their ammunition cannot be recovered.		*Once destroyed, tanks or their ammunition cannot be recovered.