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	[[Category: Tactics]]		[[Category: Tactics]]
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NKF at 12:05, 9 May 2012

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	==Advantages==		==Advantages==

	The steps needed to ~~arming~~ and throw a grenade will cost 75% of total TUs. ~~Movement~~ costs also apply if you need to ~~place~~ the grenade into ~~the~~ hand. With the relay, a scout will only need to spend 8TUs to pick up the grenade and then 25% for throwing it.		The normal steps needed to arm and throw a grenade will cost 75% of total TUs. Extra costs also apply if you need to move the grenade into a hand. With the relay, a scout will only need to spend 8TUs to pick up the grenade and then 25% for throwing it.

	With more [[Time Units]] left ~~to them~~, the scout's ability to resist attracting reaction fire is improved. The time units can also be used for other actions that will improve the scout's odds of survival.		With more [[Time Units]] left, the scout's ability to resist attracting reaction fire is improved. The time units can also be used for other actions that will improve the scout's odds of survival.

	The alternative to the relay is to have grenades pre-armed. This provides faster deployment, but makes the person carrying the grenade a walking bomb that will go off when they are killed or incapacitated. The relay provides similar benefits except that grenades will only be armed as they are required.		The alternative to the relay is to have grenades pre-armed. This provides faster deployment, but makes the person carrying the grenade a walking bomb that will go off when they are killed or incapacitated. The relay provides similar benefits except that grenades will only be armed as they are required.
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	== Disadvantages==		== Disadvantages==

	The main purpose of this strategy is to reduce the scout's TU consumption to keep their reactions high. It does ~~results~~ in a larger overall amount TUs spent~~, spread~~ over a greater number of troops.		The main purpose of this strategy is to reduce the scout's TU consumption to keep their reactions high. It does result in a larger overall amount TUs spent over a greater number of troops.

	Though this does expend a larger number of time units over a number of soldiers, the soldiers priming the grenades will be situated in much safer position than ~~someone in visual range of an~~ enemy.		Though this does expend a larger number of time units over a number of soldiers, the soldiers priming the grenades will be situated in much safer position further from the enemy. They are less at risk from return fire than the soldiers closer to the enemy.

	As with any tactic involving explosives, general carelessness while handling live explosives can prove to be quite disastrous.		As with any tactic involving explosives, general carelessness while handling live explosives can prove to be quite disastrous.
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	Extra time should be reserved for moving to a mis-throw, or escaping from it. Soldiers mid-chain often have plenty of TUs to spare to react to mis-throws, but be careful that you do not pass the grenade to someone with no TUs.		Extra time should be reserved for moving to a mis-throw, or escaping from it. Soldiers mid-chain often have plenty of TUs to spare to react to mis-throws, but be careful that you do not pass the grenade to someone with no TUs.

	Pay attention when performing this manoeuvre and ensure you complete it. Getting distracted and forgetting to complete the relay will have an ~~undesirable~~ effect by the end of the turn.		Pay attention when performing this manoeuvre and ensure you complete it. Getting distracted and forgetting to complete the relay will have an undesirably negative effect at the end of the turn.

	Take care not to throw a live grenade to a soldier standing on a pile of other grenades. As there is no immediate indicator of the state of the grenade until after it is picked up, there is nothing more frightening than to have to hunt through a pile of identical grenades for the live grenades while your TUs rapidly dwindle.		Take care not to throw a live grenade to a soldier standing on a pile of other grenades. As there is no immediate indicator of the state of the grenade until after it is picked up, there is nothing more frightening than to have to hunt through a pile of identical grenades for the live grenades while your TUs rapidly dwindle.
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	== Other Uses ==		== Other Uses ==

	This tactic is not limited to grenades and can be adapted to quickly transport other objects around the field, such as weapons, ammunition, [[Medi-Kit (EU)\|Medi-Kit]]s, [[Electro-flare]]s and even unconscious bodies.		This tactic is not limited to grenades and can be adapted to quickly transport other objects to other soldiers around the field, such as weapons, ammunition, [[Medi-Kit (EU)\|Medi-Kit]]s, [[Electro-flare]]s and even unconscious bodies. This way these devices can be provided where they are needed the most quickly and without having to physically walk them over.

	With careful management of time units, the relay can even be adapted to allow several soldiers to operate the same device in the same turn.		With careful management of time units, the relay can even be adapted to allow several soldiers to operate the same device in the same turn.

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NKF at 11:54, 9 May 2012

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	Soldiers in the middle of the relay can re-position themselves as needed to work around obstructions.		Soldiers in the middle of the relay can re-position themselves as needed to work around obstructions.

	The grenade can be armed during any point in the relay~~, but is ideally armed only~~ before the last soldier in the chain.		The grenade can be armed during any point in the relay. Ideally before the last soldier in the chain.

	==Advantages==		==Advantages==

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Lucia Wilber: Warning not necessary. Nobody deserving of the gene pool is this stupid.

2012-05-07T17:12:45Z

Warning not necessary. Nobody deserving of the gene pool is this stupid.

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	It greatly assists front-line scouts by reducing the amount of [[Time Units]] (TUs) they need to spend to deploy an armed grenade, leaving them with more TUs that they can employ in a variety of ways.		It greatly assists front-line scouts by reducing the amount of [[Time Units]] (TUs) they need to spend to deploy an armed grenade, leaving them with more TUs that they can employ in a variety of ways.


	~~== Warning! ==~~

	'''This is a fictitious tactic'''. Please do not attempt this at home with a ''live'' grenade. Though it can theoretically be performed, it is very difficult, requires great precision and is extremely dangerous.

	It is only possible in the confines of the game because X-Com soldiers are death-defying professionals and because grenades will only explode between turns. Real life does not have the advantage of the arbitrary game turns or grenades that will kindly wait until the end of them!

	~~Once again, please do not attempt this stunt at home with a live grenade.~~

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-The '''Grenade Relay''' is a tactic that allows a front line soldier to avoid having to spend a lot of time preparing a [[Grenade|grenade]].
+The '''Grenade Relay''' is a tactic that allows you to quickly move a live grenade from one part of the map to another through a chain of soldiers. It greatly assists front-line scouts by reducing the amount of [[Time Units]] (TUs) they need to spend to deploy an armed grenade, leaving them with more TUs that they can employ in a variety of ways.
-Instead, a rearward soldier primes the grenade and then throws it forward to the scout, who then only needs to spend enough [[Time Units]] to pick up the grenade and throw it again. This results in that unit having more time units to spare to do other tasks such as seeking cover, or attacking a different enemy.
+A relay is conducted by having a rearward soldier arm and pass a grenade forward to the scout. If the scout is out of reach, then to the nearest soldier. The nearest soldier then passes it on to the next and this repeats until it reaches the scout.
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	==Relaying other Equipment==		==Relaying other Equipment==

	Note that this strategy is not necessarily limited for the use of grenades. It can also be used to rapidly transfer weapons, ammunition, medikits, or other objects such as flares from one end of the map to the other.		Note that this strategy is not necessarily limited for the use of grenades. It can also be used to rapidly transfer weapons, ammunition, medikits, or other objects such as flares from one end of the map to the other. It can be used to fire a weapon or use an item more times than would normally be possible in a turn. Each soldier reserves enough TUs to throw the weapon, expends all the other TUs, then throws the weapon/item to another soldier who repeats the process. This tactic can be useful if you only possess a few instances of a new, powerful weapon, or if you are caught in a Base Defence mission with insufficient weapons to arm all your troops. It can also be used for more than one medic to use a single Med-Kit, or to use a single motion detector at different points of the map.

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	The scout in the upper middle portion of the map has spotted an alien next to the downed [[Abductor]]. The scout's not a crack shot with a pistol, but is strong enough to throw a grenade clear across the map. Even though the alien is looking the other way, the scout's already spent too many time units and can only prime a grenade or throw it, but not perform both actions.		The scout in the upper middle portion of the map has spotted an alien next to the downed [[Abductor]]. The scout's not a crack shot with a pistol, but is strong enough to throw a grenade clear across the map. Even though the alien is looking the other way, the scout's already spent too many time units and can only prime a grenade or throw it, but not perform both actions.

	The only other person in the field with a grenade happens to be the soldier that was edging along the South Eastern corner of the map. The far side of the grenade's intended ~~destinatio~~. This soldier is not strong, so cannot throw the grenade to the scout from here. To add to the soldier's troubles, the [[Skyranger]]'s in the way.		The only other person in the field with a grenade happens to be the soldier that was edging along the South Eastern corner of the map. The far side of the grenade's intended destination. This soldier is not strong, so cannot throw the grenade to the scout from here. To add to the soldier's troubles, the [[Skyranger]]'s in the way.

	However there is a chain of soldiers within throwing distance of each other nearby. The soldier with the grenade arms the grenade and throws it to the nearest soldier. This soldier picks up the grenade and tosses it to the next nearest soldier. This repeats a few more times until it reaches the scout who is then able to pick it up and throw it to its intended destination.		However there is a chain of soldiers within throwing distance of each other nearby. The soldier with the grenade arms the grenade and throws it to the nearest soldier. This soldier picks up the grenade and tosses it to the next nearest soldier. This repeats a few more times until it reaches the scout who is then able to pick it up and throw it to its intended destination.

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	The '''Grenade Relay''' is a tactic that allows a ~~scout or other~~ front line soldier to avoid having to spend a lot of time preparing a [[Grenade\|grenade]]. Instead a rearward soldier ~~can prepare one~~ and ~~throw~~ it to ~~him. The~~ scout needs ~~only~~ to ~~have~~ enough ~~time~~ to pick up the grenade and throw it again. Although the grenade is live, the ~~high accuracy of throwing and the reliability of the~~ timing mechanism ~~make~~ this ~~a useful tactic where waiting another turn~~ to ~~throw would allow~~ the ~~enemy to fire~~. ~~It can also leave the front-line soldier~~ with ~~enough TU's for life-saving reaction fire~~ on the ~~alien turn~~.		The '''Grenade Relay''' is a tactic that allows a front line soldier to avoid having to spend a lot of time preparing a [[Grenade\|grenade]].

			Instead, a rearward soldier primes the grenade and then throws it forward to the scout, who then only needs to spend enough [[Time Units]] to pick up the grenade and throw it again. This results in that unit having more time units to spare to do other tasks such as seeking cover, or attacking a different enemy.

			Although the grenade is live, the unique grenade timing mechanism allows this maneuver to be pulled off as the grenade will not explode except when changing turns. In real life, this strategy would be quite impossible unless done with a grenade with a long fuse and impeccable timing and dexterity on the part of the participants in the relay.

	==Advantages==		==Advantages==
	The priming and throwing action alone costs 75% of your total TUs in addition to the inventory movement costs. This will often mean the death of a front line soldier where keeping a high [[Reactions]] level by way of high [[Time Units]] is paramount for avoiding reaction shots.		The priming and throwing action alone costs 75% of your total TUs in addition to the inventory movement costs. This will often mean the death of a front line soldier where keeping a high [[Reactions]] level by way of high [[Time Units]] is paramount for avoiding reaction shots. With less than 25% of your remaining TUs, you don't have very main options available to you.

	By being passed a ~~pre-~~primed grenade, ~~the scout~~ will only need to pay the 25% total TUs for the throw and the TUs for picking up the grenade. ~~Since this reduces the overall TU usage~~, ~~the scout has the freedom of taking a few steps back out of the alien's visible range before throwing~~, ~~or throwing the grenade and then~~ running for cover.		By being passed a previously primed grenade, you will only need to pay the 25% total TUs for the throw and the 8 TUs for picking up the grenade. With more time units available, you will have more actions available to you, such as running for cover or firing on another enemy.

	~~While~~ this strategy ~~uses~~ a ~~lot more time units~~ overall~~, the~~ TUs ~~are~~ spent ~~across~~ a number of ~~soldiers~~, ~~keeping~~ the ~~reaction levels of all but~~ the ~~soldier~~ that ~~primed~~ the ~~grenade at a relatively high level~~. ~~Soldiers~~ at the ~~rear are also less prone~~ to ~~being attacked by reaction shots~~.		== Disadvantages==

			The whole purpose of this strategy is to improve the efficiency of the scout's TU conservation, but it comes at the cost of a large amount of overall TUs spent over a greater number of troops.

			Though this may seem to be a big disadvantage, it's all about managing and minimizing risk. The one with the greatest risk is the unit on the front line as the enemy will spot them first. The ones with the least risk are those that are behind the front line. This means the ones at the back can afford to spend more TUs on supporting tasks, while those on the front line cannot.

	==General Warnings==		==General Warnings==
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	Pay attention when performing this manoeuvre, throwing a primed grenade to a soldier who then leaves it on the floor and throws an unprimed grenade taken from his belt at the enemy is slightly less useful in its effects.		Pay attention when performing this manoeuvre, throwing a primed grenade to a soldier who then leaves it on the floor and throws an unprimed grenade taken from his belt at the enemy is slightly less useful in its effects.

			Also be very careful about throwing a live grenade to a soldier standing on a pile of similar and unprimed grenades. Nothing more frightening than to have to hunt through a pile of identical grenades for the live grenade, only to run out of TUs.

	==Execution==		==Execution==
	The grenade relay is best thought of in the same manner as a baton relay race where runners pass a baton to another until the last runner crosses the finish line with it. In the grenade relay, a live grenade is passed between soldiers from one ~~point on the map~~ to another until it reaches its ~~target~~ destination.		The grenade relay is best thought of in the same manner as a baton relay race where runners pass a baton to another until the last runner crosses the finish line with it. In the grenade relay, a live grenade is passed between soldiers from one soldier to another until it reaches its destination.

	'''Example'''		'''Example'''
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	The scout in the upper middle portion of the map has spotted an alien next to the downed [[Abductor]]. The scout's not a crack shot with a pistol, but is strong enough to throw a grenade clear across the map. Even though the alien is looking the other way, the scout's already spent too many time units and can only prime a grenade or throw it, but not perform both actions.		The scout in the upper middle portion of the map has spotted an alien next to the downed [[Abductor]]. The scout's not a crack shot with a pistol, but is strong enough to throw a grenade clear across the map. Even though the alien is looking the other way, the scout's already spent too many time units and can only prime a grenade or throw it, but not perform both actions.

	The only other person in the field with a grenade happens to be the soldier that was edging along the South Eastern corner of the map. This soldier is not strong, so cannot throw the grenade to the scout from here. ~~Besides~~, the [[Skyranger]]'s in the way.		The only other person in the field with a grenade happens to be the soldier that was edging along the South Eastern corner of the map. The far side of the grenade's intended destinatio. This soldier is not strong, so cannot throw the grenade to the scout from here. To add to the soldier's troubles, the [[Skyranger]]'s in the way.

	However there is a chain of soldiers within throwing distance of each other nearby. The soldier with the grenade arms the grenade and throws it to the nearest soldier. This soldier picks up the grenade and tosses it to the next nearest soldier. This repeats a few more times until it reaches the scout who is then able to pick it up and throw it to its intended destination.		However there is a chain of soldiers within throwing distance of each other nearby. The soldier with the grenade arms the grenade and throws it to the nearest soldier. This soldier picks up the grenade and tosses it to the next nearest soldier. This repeats a few more times until it reaches the scout who is then able to pick it up and throw it to its intended destination.

	In this example, if the third soldier in the chain was strong enough, the grenade could have been passed directly to the scout. It has been passed to the fourth soldier simply as an exercise to prolong the example! Also note that the grenade need not be armed by the first soldier in the chain, but it should be armed before it reaches the ~~scout~~.		In this example, if the third soldier in the chain was strong enough, the grenade could have been passed directly to the scout. It has been passed to the fourth soldier simply as an exercise to prolong the example! Also note that the grenade need not be armed by the first soldier in the chain, but it should be armed before it reaches the last unit in the chain.
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