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Primary Stats: short form explanation of what counts as a Primary Action

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	*'''Primary Stats''' are stats that are directly influenced by the actions that they are associated with. These actions can be called '''Primary Actions'''. They are:		*'''Primary Stats''' are stats that are directly influenced by the actions that they are associated with. These actions can be called '''Primary Actions'''. They are:
	**[[Reactions]]		**[[Reactions]] - took reaction shot.
	**[[Firing Accuracy]]		**[[Firing Accuracy]] - hit an enemy.
	**[[Melee Accuracy]]		**[[Melee Accuracy]] - melee hit(?).
	**[[Throwing Accuracy]]		**[[Throwing Accuracy]] - throw anything.
	**[[Psionic Skill]]		**[[Psionic Skill]] - any psi skill attempt.
	**[[Bravery]]		**[[Bravery]] - sucessfully resisting panic/berserk.

	* Every time a Primary Action is taken, '''Primary Skill Points''' are earned. They count the number of successful primary actions taken. This is used to calculate how much experience is gained at the end of combat. For specifics on each stat, refer to the individual stat pages by clicking on the links above.		* Every time a Primary Action is taken, '''Primary Skill Points''' are earned. They count the number of successful primary actions taken. This is used to calculate how much experience is gained at the end of combat. For specifics on each stat, refer to the individual stat pages by clicking on the links above.

Magic9mushroom: /* Secondary Stats */ value given was wrong

2018-07-06T07:18:48Z

Secondary Stats: value given was wrong

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	\| Strength \|\| 20 \|\| 7 \|\| 40 \|\| 70		\| Strength \|\| 20 \|\| 7 \|\| 40 \|\| 70
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	\| Energy \|\| 40 \|\| 8 \|\| 70 \|\| 100		\| Energy \|\| 40 \|\| 6 \|\| 70 \|\| 100
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Magic9mushroom: /* Secondary Stats */ typo

2015-04-18T03:54:48Z

Secondary Stats: typo

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	\| Strength \|\| 20 \|\| 7 \|\| 40 \|\| 70		\| Strength \|\| 20 \|\| 7 \|\| 40 \|\| 70
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	\| Energy \|\| 40 \|\| 6 \|\| 70 \|\| 100		\| Energy \|\| 40 \|\| 8 \|\| 70 \|\| 100
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Magic9mushroom: /* Putting It All Together */

2015-03-28T06:30:16Z

Putting It All Together

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	* Once you have strong Psi soldiers, you can easily use [[Experience Training]] to optimize advancement.		* Once you have strong Psi soldiers, you can easily use [[Experience Training]] to optimize advancement.

	*In the endgame (when you have tons of cash), if you're a micromanager ~~role-playing~~ to ~~make~~ soldiers ~~who are~~ maxed across the board, it's ~~arguably more important to pick recruits who are not anomalously low in any~~ one ~~stat~~, ~~rather than~~ ones who ~~are high~~ in a ~~few things~~. In other ~~words, if your goal is 100%~~ stats, ~~one really bad stat may slow you down more than e.g. being a particularly good newbie shooter. Firing accuracy, reactions~~, and ~~stamina have~~ the ~~biggest span between recruit values and work needed~~ to ~~max them out~~.		*In the endgame (when you have tons of cash), if you're a micromanager and wish to have soldiers maxed across the board, the main focus when screening recruits is the stats that can't be improved - Energy Recharge (which is equal to a soldier's starting TU, divided by 3 and rounded down) and Psi-Strength. So one would screen incoming (psi-locked) rookies for TUs, keep the ones with 60 TUs (who have 20 Energy Recharge), and then put the remaining rookies through a month of Psi-Lab training and discard those with Psi-Strength below some threshold (100 might be too strict given the one-month investment of time in each, but 90 or 95 is attainable given sufficient funding and a large number of Psi-Labs). All other stats are of secondary importance, since they can be improved with experience, and as such screening will only save you time training them while further increasing the number of rookies you need in order for one of them to "pass muster".

	== Regarding Caps ==		== Regarding Caps ==

KoshSudbury: /* Primary Stats */

2015-03-13T13:59:37Z

Primary Stats

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	**[[Bravery]]		**[[Bravery]]

	* Every time a Primary Action is taken, '''Primary Skill Points''' are earned. They count the number of successful primary actions taken. This is used to calculate how much experience is gained at the end of combat. For specifics on ~~ech~~ stat, refer to the individual stat pages by clicking on the links above.		* Every time a Primary Action is taken, '''Primary Skill Points''' are earned. They count the number of successful primary actions taken. This is used to calculate how much experience is gained at the end of combat. For specifics on each stat, refer to the individual stat pages by clicking on the links above.

	* The number of primary skill points earned at the end of a mission relies ''solely'' on the number of primary actions performed during combat, as shown below. Current skill is irrelevant. Whether you have the value that can be rolled for a recruit, or you are one point below the cap.		* The number of primary skill points earned at the end of a mission relies ''solely'' on the number of primary actions performed during combat, as shown below. Current skill is irrelevant. Whether you have the value that can be rolled for a recruit, or you are one point below the cap.

Ignatius: /* Primary Stats */

2014-10-08T11:54:36Z

Primary Stats

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	! Primary<br>Actions !! Roll<br>Range !! Average<br>Increase !! Ave. Inc. /<br> Min. Actions		! Primary<br>Actions !! Roll<br>Range !! Average<br>Increase !! Ave. Inc. /<br> Min. Actions !! Marginal Inc. / Act. from<br>1, 3 and 6 Actions resp.
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	\| 1 - 2 \|\| 0 - 1 \|\| 0.5 \|\| 0.50		\| 1 - 2 \|\| 0 - 1 \|\| 0.5 \|\| 0.50 \|\| -
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	\| 3 - 5 \|\| 1 - 3 \|\| 2.0 \|\| 0.67		\| 3 - 5 \|\| 1 - 3 \|\| 2.0 \|\| 0.67 \|\| 0.75
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	\| 6 - 10 \|\| 1 - 4 \|\| 2.5 \|\| 0.42		\| 6 - 10 \|\| 1 - 4 \|\| 2.5 \|\| 0.42 \|\| 0.40, 0.16
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	\| 11+ \|\| 2 - 6 \|\| 4.0 \|\| 0.36		\| 11+ \|\| 2 - 6 \|\| 4.0 \|\| 0.36 \|\| 0.35, 0.25, 0.30
	\|}		\|}
	:<i>Successful '''Psi''' actions count as 3 actions. '''Bravery''' uses a different approach. See below.</i>		:<i>Successful '''Psi''' actions count as 3 actions. '''Bravery''' uses a different approach. See below.</i>
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	*Performing more than 11 actions <i>won't cause any more increase</i>. Once you reach that figure you get a 2-6 roll and that's that. (Seen in code, and tested to 200+ actions.)		*Performing more than 11 actions <i>won't cause any more increase</i>. Once you reach that figure you get a 2-6 roll and that's that. (Seen in code, and tested to 200+ actions.)

	*If there is a limited number of actions your squad can perform (i.e., a limited number of aliens to kill), the "Average Increase / Minimum Actions" shows the most efficient way to go. The 2.0 average increase for 3 actions is best. In other words, if you let one soldier shoot 3 times instead of letting 3 soldiers shoot one time, the average increase for the squad as a whole is better (here, an average of 2.0 within the squad versus an average increase of 3 x 0.5 = 1.5 with the same three shots). When there isn't enough to go around, choose who and how you want to advance your soldiers and allocate actions in this order: ~~'''~~3~~'''~~ actions (0.67)~~, '''6''' actions (0.42),~~ and ~~finally, '''~~11~~'''~~ actions (0.36). ~~The~~ 1-action ~~level isn't shown because~~ you should go for 3 actions ~~instead of 1~~.		*If there is a limited number of actions your squad can perform (i.e., a limited number of aliens to kill), the "Average Increase / Minimum Actions" shows the most efficient way to go first and the "Marginal Increase" how to proceed from there. The 2.0 average increase for 3 actions is best. In other words, if you let one soldier shoot 3 times instead of letting 3 soldiers shoot one time, the average increase for the squad as a whole is better (here, an average of 2.0 within the squad versus an average increase of 3 x 0.5 = 1.5 with the same three shots). Going from there, aiming for 11 actions provides the best marginal utility (0.25 vs. only 0.16 when going for 6 actions). When there isn't enough to go around, choose who and how you want to advance your soldiers and allocate actions in this order: 3 actions (0.67) and then directly to 11 actions (0.25 per additional action). While you might still want most of your soldiers to take at least 1 action to trigger secondary stat grow (see below), you should never aim for 6-10 bracket as it is better to have 37.5% of you trainees increase +4 (and the others at +2) than having all of them increase +2.5 on avg. for the same number of actions.

	*The only time one might have gone for 1 action is if you knew you could only get off 2 more shots, not 3. But short of cheating, [[Damage]] is always unpredictable, so instead of taking 1 shot at 2 soldiers when you think your last alien is about dead, you should probably have 1 soldier see if they can get to 3 shots.		*The only time one might have gone for 1 action (besides for triggering secondary stat gain) is if you knew you could only get off 2 more shots, not 3. But short of cheating, [[Damage]] is always unpredictable, so instead of taking 1 shot at 2 soldiers when you think your last alien is about dead, you should probably have 1 soldier see if they can get to 3 shots. By the same token, you would prefer to take two soldiers to 6 actions instead of taking one to 9 or 10.

	*Notice that any intermediate shots (e.g. your 2nd or 8th shots) are a waste of <strike>aliens</strike> er, actions unless you reach the next minimum-actions level. You can count bullets as a crude approximation, or use a utility that reads the [[UNITREF.DAT]] experience counters from a saved game for exact counts. The number of bullets you've shot will accurately reflect your Reaction counter (unless the person also did direct fire sans reacting), but knowing how many hits were landed for Firing Accuracy can be much more problematic. For a little more detail on efficiency versus experience, see [[User_talk:MikeTheRed#Another_Look_at_Primary_Point_Increases\|this]].		*Notice that any intermediate shots (e.g. your 2nd or 8th shots) are a waste of <strike>aliens</strike> er, actions unless you reach the next minimum-actions level. You can count bullets as a crude approximation, or use a utility that reads the [[UNITREF.DAT]] experience counters from a saved game for exact counts. The number of bullets you've shot will accurately reflect your Reaction counter (unless the person also did direct fire sans reacting), but knowing how many hits were landed for Firing Accuracy can be much more problematic. For a little more detail on efficiency versus experience, see [[User_talk:MikeTheRed#Another_Look_at_Primary_Point_Increases\|this]].

NKF at 07:16, 27 November 2013

2013-11-27T07:16:18Z

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	~~A soldier earns experience during combat. After the mission, the soldier will then earn a random amount of stat increases based on what experience the soldier acquired during combat.~~

	__NOTOC__		__NOTOC__
	== Overview ==		== Overview ==
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	Experience, in X-COM, is the accumulation of combat experience by successfully performing actions. After combat, this experience is applied towards the improvement of stats.		Experience, in X-COM, is the accumulation of combat experience by successfully performing actions. After combat, this experience is applied towards the improvement of stats.

	This article discusses how experience is earned and how it affects a soldier's ~~stats~~.		This article discusses how experience is earned and how it affects a soldier's statistics and skills.

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	=== Primary Stats ===		=== Primary Stats ===

	*'''Primary Stats''' are stats that are directly influenced by the actions that they are associated with. These actions can be called '''Primary Actions'''. ~~Here~~ are ~~the Primary Stats~~:		*'''Primary Stats''' are stats that are directly influenced by the actions that they are associated with. These actions can be called '''Primary Actions'''. They are:
	**[[Reactions]]		**[[Reactions]]
	**[[Firing Accuracy]]		**[[Firing Accuracy]]
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	**[[Bravery]]		**[[Bravery]]

	* Every time a Primary Action is taken, '''Primary Skill Points''' are earned. They count the number of successful primary actions taken. This is used to calculate how much experience is gained at the end of combat. ~~Refer~~ to the individual stat pages by clicking on the links above ~~for the specifics on each stat~~.		* Every time a Primary Action is taken, '''Primary Skill Points''' are earned. They count the number of successful primary actions taken. This is used to calculate how much experience is gained at the end of combat. For specifics on ech stat, refer to the individual stat pages by clicking on the links above.

	* The number of primary skill points ~~you earn~~ at the end of a mission relies ~~<i>~~solely~~</i>~~ on the number of primary actions ~~you perform~~ during combat, as shown below. ~~Your current~~ skill ~~level <i>doesn't matter</i>~~. ~~It doesn't matter if~~ you have the ~~lowest~~ recruit ~~value~~, or you~~'re~~ one point below the cap.		* The number of primary skill points earned at the end of a mission relies ''solely'' on the number of primary actions performed during combat, as shown below. Current skill is irrelevant. Whether you have the value that can be rolled for a recruit, or you are one point below the cap.

	*Points assigned have a stairstep function, corresponding to a range within which points are rolled. ~~The range increases as~~ more actions are performed:		*Points assigned have a stairstep function, corresponding to a range within which points are rolled. As more actions are performed, the greater the range:

	{\| ~~{{StdCenterTable}}~~ cellpadding=3		{\| class="wikitable" cellpadding=3
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	! Primary<br>Actions !! Roll<br>Range !! Average<br>Increase !! Ave. Inc. /<br> Min. Actions		! Primary<br>Actions !! Roll<br>Range !! Average<br>Increase !! Ave. Inc. /<br> Min. Actions
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	* The maximum possible increase is highest when the stat is lowest (it can increase the most when you need it the most). The amount that the stat can increase falls steadily as your secondary skills approach their caps, down to an average of 1 point (range 0-2) per combat for each stat. The overall formula is that you gain 0 to 2 points, plus a tenth (rounded down) of the remaining increase possible. (For a graph, see [[User_talk:MikeTheRed#Secondary_.22Steps.22\|this]]). Thus, secondary stats which start very low should increase quickly, and will then increase less rapidly as they rise. Rookies with the lowest possible starting stats will have the following as their max possible roll:		* The maximum possible increase is highest when the stat is lowest (it can increase the most when you need it the most). The amount that the stat can increase falls steadily as your secondary skills approach their caps, down to an average of 1 point (range 0-2) per combat for each stat. The overall formula is that you gain 0 to 2 points, plus a tenth (rounded down) of the remaining increase possible. (For a graph, see [[User_talk:MikeTheRed#Secondary_.22Steps.22\|this]]). Thus, secondary stats which start very low should increase quickly, and will then increase less rapidly as they rise. Rookies with the lowest possible starting stats will have the following as their max possible roll:

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	The table below shows the number of combats needed for a soldier to advance from recruit maximum to attribute cap, '''on average'''. A more detailed look, including starting from recruit minimum, theoretical min and max advancement times, etc., can be found [[Media:XcomAttributeAdvancement.xls\|here]] and a PDF of the same is [[Media:XcomAttributeAdvancement.pdf\|here]].		The table below shows the number of combats needed for a soldier to advance from recruit maximum to attribute cap, '''on average'''. A more detailed look, including starting from recruit minimum, theoretical min and max advancement times, etc., can be found [[Media:XcomAttributeAdvancement.xls\|here]] and a PDF of the same is [[Media:XcomAttributeAdvancement.pdf\|here]].

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	Primary skills can overflow their cap by 5, and secondary skills can overflow their cap by 1, as shown here:		Primary skills can overflow their cap by 5, and secondary skills can overflow their cap by 1, as shown here:

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	! Primary Stat !! Min Cap !! Max Cap		! Primary Stat !! Min Cap !! Max Cap

Hobbes: categorizing

2013-07-23T03:31:56Z

categorizing

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	*For "behind the scenes" on experience testing, see [[User_talk:MikeTheRed#The_Experience_of_Experience\|this]]		*For "behind the scenes" on experience testing, see [[User_talk:MikeTheRed#The_Experience_of_Experience\|this]]
	[[Category:Soldiers]]		[[Category:Soldiers]]
			[[Category:Enemy Unknown/UFO Defense]]

MikeTheRed: Reverting to 11 actions needed for max increase as per Talk page

2012-09-16T14:29:25Z

Reverting to 11 actions needed for max increase as per Talk page

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Daiky at 13:57, 25 September 2011

2011-09-25T13:57:08Z

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	For primaries, a soldier that does 10+ actions (for a 2-6 roll) every single combat mission will get Cap+5 in that primary skill <b>5%</b> of the time, on average. "Every single mission" means, without regard for the fact you're nearing the cap (and playing with the possible roll results). You can increase the odds to as high as 20%, if you use the primary increase roll ranges to inch your way up to Cap-1, then do 10+ actions on your final combat. Or you can have a 0% chance of Cap+5 if you don't pay attention and don't do 10+ actions near the cap!		For primaries, a soldier that does 10+ actions (for a 2-6 roll) every single combat mission will get Cap+5 in that primary skill <b>5%</b> of the time, on average. "Every single mission" means, without regard for the fact you're nearing the cap (and playing with the possible roll results). You can increase the odds to as high as 20%, if you use the primary increase roll ranges to inch your way up to Cap-1, then do 10+ actions on your final combat. Or you can have a 0% chance of Cap+5 if you don't pay attention and don't do 10+ actions near the cap!

	== ~~Misc Notes~~ ==		== Experience training outside combat ==

	*With the exception of [[Psionic Skill]] training in the [[Psionic Laboratory\|Psi Lab]], all stats can only be trained through combat experience.		*With the exception of [[Psionic Skill]] training in the [[Psionic Laboratory\|Psi Lab]], all stats can only be trained through combat experience.

	*~~Any combat~~ experience ~~earned will influence~~ [[promotions]]~~. The soldier with the highest amount of experience in total will have the best chance of being promoted to the next rank. Bravery training will count towards a promotion as well~~. <br>
			== Rookie promotions ==

			*A Rookie that has gained any experience except throwing, is promoted to Squaddie (also see [[promotions]]). <br>
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