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MikeTheRed: /* Bravery Training */

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Bravery Training

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	Advantages: You can bring in 26 soldiers and train bravery for 24-25 soldiers in a very short space of time. No fear of mind control. Very easy to set-up and retreat from battle, and fast too, since you don't have to neutralize Psi capable aliens and specifically leave 1 of them alive.		Advantages: You can bring in 26 soldiers and train bravery for 24-25 soldiers in a very short space of time. No fear of mind control. Very easy to set-up and retreat from battle, and fast too, since you don't have to neutralize Psi capable aliens and specifically leave 1 of them alive.
	Note: This method is exploiting SO MANY bugs and glitches and AI failures, you might as well just use an editor, from "honor" point of view, lol. Admittedly, there is a very perverse sense of satisfaction in doing it this way...		Note: This method is exploiting SO MANY bugs and glitches and AI failures, you might as well just use an editor, from "honor" point of view, lol. Admittedly, there is a very perverse sense of satisfaction in doing it this way...
			:Try bringing one high ranker, and little or no other officers, for this technique. Normally your highest officer [[Morale#Officers\|mitigates morale loss]] (but causes a steep drop if s/he dies) - so reversing this (zombifying your Commander) will mean the least number of "rounds" and score loss. Don't worry, you'll get your Commander back... probably!

	== Bravery and Psi Attacks ==		== Bravery and Psi Attacks ==

Jasonred: /* Bravery and Psi Attacks */

2009-04-05T14:44:46Z

Bravery and Psi Attacks

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	== Bravery and Psi Attacks ==		== Bravery and Psi Attacks ==
	Psionic panicking attacks will reduce a target's morale by ~~an amount dependent on the unit's~~ Bravery. Although high Bravery will not make a unit more psi-resistant, particularly to mind control, it can greatly reduce the impact of panicking attacks performed on that unit. See [[Morale#Psionic Panicking Attacks]] for full details.		Psionic panicking attacks will reduce a target's morale by (110-Bravery) each time. Although high Bravery will not make a unit more psi-resistant, particularly to mind control, it can greatly reduce the impact of panicking attacks performed on that unit. See [[Morale#Psionic Panicking Attacks]] for full details.

	==See Also==		==See Also==

Jasonred: /* Bravery Training */

2009-03-31T22:41:43Z

Bravery Training

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	I, [[User:Jasonred\|Jasonred]] 18:13, 31 March 2009 (EDT), have found a disgustingly easy technique, which can be used to train your entire squad's (-1 volunteer) bravery at once. Kill all aliens except for 1 Chryssalid. Now, feed one of your soldiers to the Chryssalid, while having everyone else in a safe spot, facing away from the alien/s. Next turn, 1 unit turns around, spots the aliens, mind control the zombie, turn around again. End turn. Turn around, spot aliens, mind control the zombie, turn around again. Repeat add infinitum.		I, [[User:Jasonred\|Jasonred]] 18:13, 31 March 2009 (EDT), have found a disgustingly easy technique, which can be used to train your entire squad's (-1 volunteer) bravery at once. Kill all aliens except for 1 Chryssalid. Now, feed one of your soldiers to the Chryssalid, while having everyone else in a safe spot, facing away from the alien/s. Next turn, 1 unit turns around, spots the aliens, mind control the zombie, kill zombie, turn around again. End turn. Turn around, spot aliens, mind control the zombie, kill it, turn around again. Repeat add infinitum.
	Alternatively, use an Alien Base. Mind Control and kidnap a Chryssalid using the Grav Lift Shield exploit. Then put the Chyrssalid in a corner, trap him with 3 soldiers. Who he will then zombify, but the zombies will block his path to your other soldiers. Repeat above steps. You can't fly out of his reach in this confined space, but you save the effort of having to neutralise all the other alien forces.		Alternatively, use an Alien Base. Mind Control and kidnap a Chryssalid using the Grav Lift Shield exploit. Then put the Chyrssalid in a corner, trap him with 3 soldiers. Who he will then zombify, but the zombies will block his path to your other soldiers. Repeat above steps. You can't fly out of his reach in this confined space, but you save the effort of having to neutralise all the other alien forces.
	Result: Eventually, entire squad turns into chickens.		Result: Eventually, entire squad turns into chickens.
	Disadvantage: ~~You~~ will end up with a REALLY bad score for that mission, since it will count as having many many soldiers dying over and over.		Disadvantage: Eventually, the entire squad turns into chickens. Also, you will end up with a REALLY bad score for that mission, since it will count as having many many soldiers dying over and over. And over and over and over and over.
	Advantages: You can bring in 26 soldiers and train bravery for 24-25 soldiers in a very short space of time. No fear of mind control. Very easy to set-up and retreat from battle, and fast too, since you don't have to neutralize Psi capable aliens and specifically leave 1 of them alive.		Advantages: You can bring in 26 soldiers and train bravery for 24-25 soldiers in a very short space of time. No fear of mind control. Very easy to set-up and retreat from battle, and fast too, since you don't have to neutralize Psi capable aliens and specifically leave 1 of them alive.
	Note: This method is exploiting SO MANY bugs and glitches and AI failures, you might as well just use an editor, from "honor" point of view, lol. Admittedly, there is a very perverse sense of satisfaction in doing it this way...		Note: This method is exploiting SO MANY bugs and glitches and AI failures, you might as well just use an editor, from "honor" point of view, lol. Admittedly, there is a very perverse sense of satisfaction in doing it this way...

Jasonred: Advanced Bravery Glitchi... I mean, TRAINING.

2009-03-31T22:13:23Z

Advanced Bravery Glitchi... I mean, TRAINING.

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			I, [[User:Jasonred\|Jasonred]] 18:13, 31 March 2009 (EDT), have found a disgustingly easy technique, which can be used to train your entire squad's (-1 volunteer) bravery at once. Kill all aliens except for 1 Chryssalid. Now, feed one of your soldiers to the Chryssalid, while having everyone else in a safe spot, facing away from the alien/s. Next turn, 1 unit turns around, spots the aliens, mind control the zombie, turn around again. End turn. Turn around, spot aliens, mind control the zombie, turn around again. Repeat add infinitum.
			Alternatively, use an Alien Base. Mind Control and kidnap a Chryssalid using the Grav Lift Shield exploit. Then put the Chyrssalid in a corner, trap him with 3 soldiers. Who he will then zombify, but the zombies will block his path to your other soldiers. Repeat above steps. You can't fly out of his reach in this confined space, but you save the effort of having to neutralise all the other alien forces.
			Result: Eventually, entire squad turns into chickens.
			Disadvantage: You will end up with a REALLY bad score for that mission, since it will count as having many many soldiers dying over and over.
			Advantages: You can bring in 26 soldiers and train bravery for 24-25 soldiers in a very short space of time. No fear of mind control. Very easy to set-up and retreat from battle, and fast too, since you don't have to neutralize Psi capable aliens and specifically leave 1 of them alive.
			Note: This method is exploiting SO MANY bugs and glitches and AI failures, you might as well just use an editor, from "honor" point of view, lol. Admittedly, there is a very perverse sense of satisfaction in doing it this way...

	== Bravery and Psi Attacks ==		== Bravery and Psi Attacks ==

Jasonred at 21:39, 26 March 2009

2009-03-26T21:39:05Z

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	Note: Of course, if you are so psi-forces are so powerful that they can actually set up this scenario... you don't NEED to perform any more bravery training, since you would almost never lose morale in the first place. Unlike all the other stats, bravery's usefulness is inversely proportional to how powerful your troops are compared to the enemy. In addition, the bravery experience sytem has an important difference from other stats... it's like the Opposite of reaction gains, in that sense. For Reactions, your troops with low reactions will tend to never make reaction shots, and thus will never improve, whereas your ninjas will improve fairly quickly. For bravery, it is the only stat where a low starting score makes it more likely to improve.		Note: Of course, if you are so psi-forces are so powerful that they can actually set up this scenario... you don't NEED to perform any more bravery training, since you would almost never lose morale in the first place. Unlike all the other stats, bravery's usefulness is inversely proportional to how powerful your troops are compared to the enemy. In addition, the bravery experience sytem has an important difference from other stats... it's like the Opposite of reaction gains, in that sense. For Reactions, your troops with low reactions will tend to never make reaction shots, and thus will never improve, whereas your ninjas will improve fairly quickly. For bravery, it is the only stat where a low starting score makes it more likely to improve.

			In fact, Bravery tends to be a self correcting weakness. Either your soldier will naturally improve, or he will die, thus ending his plague upon your squad. In that sense, the best form of bravery training is just to fight normally, and let bravery rise by itself.



	== Bravery and Psi Attacks ==		== Bravery and Psi Attacks ==

Jasonred: /* Bravery Training */

2009-03-26T21:21:57Z

Bravery Training

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	Your soldiers' Bravery can be trained easily and safely once you have completely secured a mission field, particularly after your troops have received [[Psionics]] training. Capture (i.e., Mind Control) one or more psi-enabled aliens (Ethereals or Sectoid Leaders/Commanders) and box them into a corner (or the Avenger) so you can shoot them later. Fully disarm the aliens using the [[ExploitsB#Access_the_Alien_Inventory_Screen\|inventory trick]], and have all your soldiers drop all their weapons and grenades as well so they don't kill each other.		Your soldiers' Bravery can be trained easily and safely once you have completely secured a mission field, particularly after your troops have received [[Psionics]] training. Capture (i.e., Mind Control) one or more psi-enabled aliens (Ethereals or Sectoid Leaders/Commanders) and box them into a corner (or the Avenger) so you can shoot them later. Fully disarm the aliens using the [[ExploitsB#Access_the_Alien_Inventory_Screen\|inventory trick]], and have all your soldiers drop all their weapons and grenades as well so they don't kill each other.

	* Now you can hit the End Turn button repeatedly while the aliens go to work on your psi-weaklings. Soldiers with a Psi Strength of 80+ seem to be immune to psi attacks (use them to wall the aliens in), but all others can be trained. In addition to possible Bravery gains, bravery training can also trigger secondary stat increases. See [[Experience#Secondary Stats\|Experience]] for more details.		* Now you can hit the End Turn button repeatedly while the aliens go to work on your psi-weaklings. Soldiers with a Psi Strength of 80+ seem to be immune to psi attacks on the easier settings (you need 133 Psi Defence to be immune to Ethereal Commanders' Psi Attacks) (use them to wall the aliens in), but all others can be trained. In addition to possible Bravery gains, bravery training can also trigger secondary stat increases. See [[Experience#Secondary Stats\|Experience]] for more details.

	* Move any soldiers that have been psi-attacked repeatedly as far away from the aliens as possible to give less psi-weak soldiers a chance to get trained. Aliens will favor attacking psi-weak soldiers, but also [[Psionics#Psionic_Formulas\|focus]] on nearby soldiers. They also cannot mind-control soldiers past a certain distance, so move your weakest soldiers to a distance where they can only be panicked, not controlled. You may need to mind-control the aliens periodically in order to regain control of your troops so as to move them away.		* Move any soldiers that have been psi-attacked repeatedly as far away from the aliens as possible to give less psi-weak soldiers a chance to get trained. Aliens will favor attacking psi-weak soldiers, but also [[Psionics#Psionic_Formulas\|focus]] on nearby soldiers. They also cannot mind-control soldiers past a certain distance, so move your weakest soldiers to a distance where they can only be panicked, not controlled. You may need to mind-control the aliens periodically in order to regain control of your troops so as to move them away.
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	ANOTHER METHOD, which does not rely on psi-capable aliens, is to MC several aliens... then get an X-com soldier to shoot them to death while still under X-com control.		ANOTHER METHOD, which does not rely on psi-capable aliens, is to MC several aliens... then get an X-com soldier to shoot them to death while still under X-com control.

			Note: Of course, if you are so psi-forces are so powerful that they can actually set up this scenario... you don't NEED to perform any more bravery training, since you would almost never lose morale in the first place. Unlike all the other stats, bravery's usefulness is inversely proportional to how powerful your troops are compared to the enemy. In addition, the bravery experience sytem has an important difference from other stats... it's like the Opposite of reaction gains, in that sense. For Reactions, your troops with low reactions will tend to never make reaction shots, and thus will never improve, whereas your ninjas will improve fairly quickly. For bravery, it is the only stat where a low starting score makes it more likely to improve.

	== Bravery and Psi Attacks ==		== Bravery and Psi Attacks ==

Zombie: /* Improvement */ Converted table to html sort, added pic of graph.

2009-03-26T17:29:38Z

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	The ''average'' number of turns needed to panic/berserk is simply the reciprocal of the chance of going panic/berserk:		The ''average'' number of turns needed to panic/berserk is simply the reciprocal of the chance of going panic/berserk:
	~~Chance~~ of ~~Ave~~. ~~Number of Turns~~
	<u>Morale</u> <u>Panic/Berserk</u> <u>~~Until~~ Panic/Berserk</u>		[[Image:Morale vs turns to panic graph.png\|thumb\|350px\|Graph of Morale vs the number of turns to panic/go berserk.]]
	45% 10% 10.00 *		<table {{StdCenterTable}} class="sortable">
	40% 20% 5.00		<tr {{StdDescTable_Heading}}><th width="90">Morale</th><th width="125">Panic/Berserk Chance</th><th width="150">Ave Turns till Panic/Berserk</th></tr>
	35% 30% 3.33		<tr><td>45%</td><td>10%</td><td>10.00<sup>*</sup></td></tr>
	30% 40% 2.50 *		<tr><td>40%</td><td>20%</td><td>5.00</td></tr>
	25% 50% 2.00		<tr><td>35%</td><td>30%</td><td>3.33</td></tr>
	20% 60% 1.67		<tr><td>30%</td><td>40%</td><td>2.50<sup>*</sup></td></tr>
	15% 70% 1.43 *		<tr><td>25%</td><td>50%</td><td>2.00</td></tr>
	10% 80% 1.25		<tr><td>20%</td><td>60%</td><td>1.67</td></tr>
	5% 90% 1.11		<tr><td>15%</td><td>70%</td><td>1.43<sup>*</sup></td></tr>
	0% 100% 1.00 *		<tr><td>10%</td><td>80%</td><td>1.25</td></tr>
			<tr><td>5%</td><td>90%</td><td>1.11</td></tr>
			<tr><td>0%</td><td>100%</td><td>1.00<sup>*</sup></td></tr>
			</table>
	The chance of getting an experience point (EP) is much higher, just below Morale 50. But even if your soldier's Morale is well below 50, their Morale increases by 15 each time they panic/berserk, so it will cycle closer to 50 over time... ''IF'' they don't keep getting Psi-panicked continuously (see Training, below). This means that, on average, it takes 14.93 turns to go from Morale 0 to 60 (the four asterisked points above, added together). Because four of those turns are spent in Panic/Berserk itself, there are 10.93 turns for which you'll get a Bravery experience point. But that's just the average... your soldier might Panic four times in a row (equals no experience) or may take many dozens of turns sitting at Morale 45.		The chance of getting an experience point (EP) is much higher, just below Morale 50. But even if your soldier's Morale is well below 50, their Morale increases by 15 each time they panic/berserk, so it will cycle closer to 50 over time... ''IF'' they don't keep getting Psi-panicked continuously (see Training, below). This means that, on average, it takes 14.93 turns to go from Morale 0 to 60 (the four asterisked points above, added together). Because four of those turns are spent in Panic/Berserk itself, there are 10.93 turns for which you'll get a Bravery experience point. But that's just the average... your soldier might Panic four times in a row (equals no experience) or may take many dozens of turns sitting at Morale 45.

Jasonred: /* Bravery Training */

2009-03-15T09:08:50Z

Bravery Training

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	*If you're serious about Bravery training, play with the distances from your soldiers to the target alien(s). For psi-unlocked troops, it's pretty easy to figure out each soldier's [[Psionic_Equations#Distance\|psi distance]] to the alien.		*If you're serious about Bravery training, play with the distances from your soldiers to the target alien(s). For psi-unlocked troops, it's pretty easy to figure out each soldier's [[Psionic_Equations#Distance\|psi distance]] to the alien.


			ANOTHER METHOD, which does not rely on psi-capable aliens, is to MC several aliens... then get an X-com soldier to shoot them to death while still under X-com control.

	== Bravery and Psi Attacks ==		== Bravery and Psi Attacks ==

Jasonred: /* Improvement */

2009-03-15T09:04:35Z

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	When a unit's Morale drops below 50, it has a chance of panicking or going berserk (see [[Morale#Panicking_and_Berserking]] for full details). If a unit ''successfully resists'' panicking, it will gain a "Bravery experience point". For each Bravery experience point gained during a combat, a unit will have an additional ~9% chance of gaining ~~a point of~~ Bravery at the end of the mission, up to a possible 100% chance with 11 or more Bravery experience points. (For supporting data, see [[Talk:Bravery\|Discussion]].) Thus, if you keep an eye on your Morale, you can tell exactly how many Bravery experience points you have received - Every turn that Morale is below 50 and you don't panic/berserk, you get another point.		When a unit's Morale drops below 50, it has a chance of panicking or going berserk (see [[Morale#Panicking_and_Berserking]] for full details). If a unit ''successfully resists'' panicking, it will gain a "Bravery experience point". For each Bravery experience point gained during a combat, a unit will have an additional ~9% chance of gaining 10 Bravery at the end of the mission, up to a possible 100% chance with 11 or more Bravery experience points. (For supporting data, see [[Talk:Bravery\|Discussion]].) Thus, if you keep an eye on your Morale, you can tell exactly how many Bravery experience points you have received - Every turn that Morale is below 50 and you don't panic/berserk, you get another point.

	The ''average'' number of turns needed to panic/berserk is simply the reciprocal of the chance of going panic/berserk:		The ''average'' number of turns needed to panic/berserk is simply the reciprocal of the chance of going panic/berserk: