Best Starting Weapons (TFTD) - Revision history

Magic9mushroom: /* Not Usable on Land */ myth

2020-01-23T10:03:21Z

Not Usable on Land: myth

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	* Disruptor Pulse Launcher		* Disruptor Pulse Launcher
	* Displacer/P.W.T. turret (the Displacer itself can be used on land, but its Pulse Wave torpedoes will not fire)		* Displacer/P.W.T. turret (the Displacer itself can be used on land, but its Pulse Wave torpedoes will not fire)

	~~In addition there are certain alien attacks that (probably due to bugs) can only be used on land, not under water.~~

	NB These weapons can be fired on Land during Reaction fire, or by Berserk units, but those are probably bugs rather than intended game behaviour.		NB These weapons can be fired on Land during Reaction fire, or by Berserk units, but those are probably bugs rather than intended game behaviour.

Magic9mushroom: /* Not Usable on Land */ tidyup

2015-05-01T06:54:20Z

Not Usable on Land: tidyup

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	* Hydro-Jet Cannon		* Hydro-Jet Cannon
	* Torpedo Launcher		* Torpedo Launcher
	* ~~Coelecanth SWS's~~ Aqua Jet ~~launcher~~ (the ~~Coelecanth SWS~~ can be be used on land, but ~~it's~~ Aqua Jet torpedoes ~~cannot~~).		* Coelacanth/Aqua Jet turret (the Coelacanth itself can be used on land, but its Aqua Jet torpedoes will not fire)

	There are also some non-starting weapons that cannot be used on land:		There are also some non-starting weapons that cannot be used on land:

	* Disruptor Pulse Launcher		* Disruptor Pulse Launcher
	* Displacer ~~SWS's~~ Pulse Wave ~~Torpedo launcher~~		* Displacer/P.W.T. turret (the Displacer itself can be used on land, but its Pulse Wave torpedoes will not fire)

	In addition there are certain alien attacks that (probably due to bugs) can only be used on land, not under water.		In addition there are certain alien attacks that (probably due to bugs) can only be used on land, not under water.

Winterheart: /* See Also */

2013-05-08T20:37:35Z

Spike: /* Not Usable on Land */ added non starting and non human weapons

2012-09-07T13:22:04Z

Not Usable on Land: added non starting and non human weapons

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	* Hydro-Jet Cannon		* Hydro-Jet Cannon
	* Torpedo Launcher		* Torpedo Launcher
	* Coelecanth Aqua Jet (the Coelecanth can be be used on land, but it's Aqua Jet torpedoes cannot).		* Coelecanth SWS's Aqua Jet launcher (the Coelecanth SWS can be be used on land, but it's Aqua Jet torpedoes cannot).

			There are also some non-starting weapons that cannot be used on land:

			* Disruptor Pulse Launcher
			* Displacer SWS's Pulse Wave Torpedo launcher

			In addition there are certain alien attacks that (probably due to bugs) can only be used on land, not under water.

	NB These weapons can be fired on Land during Reaction fire, or by Berserk units, but those are probably bugs rather than intended game behaviour.		NB These weapons can be fired on Land during Reaction fire, or by Berserk units, but those are probably bugs rather than intended game behaviour.

Spike: /* Not Usable on Land */

2012-09-07T13:07:47Z

Not Usable on Land

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	* Coelecanth Aqua Jet (the Coelecanth can be be used on land, but it's Aqua Jet torpedoes cannot).		* Coelecanth Aqua Jet (the Coelecanth can be be used on land, but it's Aqua Jet torpedoes cannot).

	NB These weapons can be fired in Reaction fire, or by Berserk units, but ~~that is~~ probably ~~a bug~~ rather than intended game behaviour.		NB These weapons can be fired on Land during Reaction fire, or by Berserk units, but those are probably bugs rather than intended game behaviour.

	== Supporting Weapon Summary ==		== Supporting Weapon Summary ==

Spike: /* Land vs Underwater Use */

2012-09-07T13:05:19Z

Land vs Underwater Use

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	While most weapons (including starting weapons and researched weapons) are fully "dual environment" capable, some weapons are less effective in one environment, while others cannot be used at all in one environment.		While most weapons (including starting weapons and researched weapons) are fully "dual environment" capable, some weapons are less effective in one environment, while others cannot be used at all in one environment.


	=== Reduced Effectiveness Underwater ===		=== Reduced Effectiveness Underwater ===
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	* Dye Grenades? [comments please!]		* Dye Grenades? [comments please!]


	=== Not Usable on Land ===		=== Not Usable on Land ===

Spike: /* Land vs Underwater Use */

2012-09-07T13:04:13Z

Land vs Underwater Use

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 The minuscule power of 10 isn't strong enough to create reasonable sized cloud. Often a torpedo or even Magna-blast grenade can potentially create a more effective screen in shorter space of time.
 == Supporting Weapon Summary ==
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 Due to their varied nature of these weapons, most of these items cannot be compared amongst themselves like the ranged firearms, so there is no one best weapon amongst them.
 For the grenades, the Magna-Pack Explosive is probably the most powerful bang-for-your-buck at this stage of the game, but its weight precludes it from being easily used by most new aquanauts. The Magna-Blast on the other hand is a very light-weight explosive but is easy to carry and easy to throw. Though it often cannot kill in one hit, it is a good way to quickly cripple and put many early enemies at a tactical disadvantage. The particle disturbance grenade is stronger than the Magna Blast, but is more suited to setting traps due to its unique trigger. The dye grenade is purely for extremely patient stealth.
 == See Also ==
 [[Weapon Analysis]]

Spike: /* Heavy Gauss */ balance back slightly to HG

2011-01-31T13:50:37Z

Heavy Gauss: balance back slightly to HG

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	=== [[Heavy Gauss]]===		=== [[Heavy Gauss]]===

	The Heavy Gauss is a poor third tier weapon for the Gauss family because it is severely outclassed by the Sonic Pistol in almost every aspect except a more accurate aimed mode and is cheaper to mass produce. Nevertheless it is a heavy hitting weapon for its damage class, but may not necessarily make for a good weapon to arm the entire squad with - at least in comparison to the other starting weapons that are available.		The Heavy Gauss is a poor third tier weapon for the Gauss family because it is severely outclassed by the Sonic Pistol in almost every aspect except a more accurate aimed mode and is cheaper to mass produce. Nevertheless it is a heavy hitting weapon for its damage class, useful against heavily armoured targets that are not overly AP-resistant, but may not necessarily make for a good weapon to arm the entire squad with - at least in comparison to the other starting weapons that are available.

	~~Against~~ standard and Gauss weaponry, the Heavy Gauss is one of the most powerful solid round projectile weapons available. If you regularly use the Gas Cannon with AP shells, the Heavy Gauss can make a reasonable replacement by way of a strength for speed trade off. The ammo packs away better than Gas Cannon shells and has a few more rounds. Note that damage resistance of some of the aliens will play a big role in determining whether AP or Gauss is the better choice.		Compared against standard and Gauss weaponry, the Heavy Gauss is one of the most powerful solid round projectile weapons available. If you regularly use the Gas Cannon with AP shells, the Heavy Gauss can make a reasonable replacement by way of a strength for speed trade off. The ammo packs away better than Gas Cannon shells and has a few more rounds. Note that damage resistance of some of the aliens will play a big role in determining whether AP or Gauss is the better choice.

	Due to the amount of research time it takes to get this, and ~~the fact that~~ its predecessors perform better in combat, it ~~is highly~~ questionable if you should invest your research ~~power and time~~ to develop this weapon, ~~or start~~ on the Sonic weapons. The ~~only~~ argument for this is if you wish to obtain the craft [[Gauss Cannon]], for an economic advantage. One ~~good reason~~ against this is that it further delays getting the progress on the [[Sonic Oscillator]], for a tactical advantage. There are also the related SWS associated with the craft weapons. In this instance, the [[Displacer/Sonic]] is hands down the best of the pairing due to the severe economic implications caused by the ammunition errors that plague the [[Coelacanth/Gauss]].		Due to the amount of research time it takes to get this weapon, and since its predecessors perform better in general combat (i.e. vs. light-medium armoured targets), it questionable if you should invest your research efforts to develop this weapon, rather than starting on the Sonic weapons instead. The main argument for this is if you wish to obtain the craft [[Gauss Cannon]], for an economic advantage. One counterargument against this is that it further delays getting the progress on the [[Sonic Oscillator]], for a tactical advantage. This may depend on whether your current priority is tactical or economic advantage.There are also the related SWS associated with the craft weapons. In this instance, the [[Displacer/Sonic]] is hands down the best of the pairing due to the severe economic implications caused by the ammunition errors that plague the [[Coelacanth/Gauss]].

	== General Firearm Summary ==		== General Firearm Summary ==

4th Cuirassier: /* Heavy Gauss */

2011-01-31T11:01:56Z

Heavy Gauss

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	Against standard and Gauss weaponry, the Heavy Gauss is one of the most powerful solid round projectile weapons available. If you regularly use the Gas Cannon with AP shells, the Heavy Gauss can make a reasonable replacement by way of a strength for speed trade off. The ammo packs away better than Gas Cannon shells and has a few more rounds. Note that damage resistance of some of the aliens will play a big role in determining whether AP or Gauss is the better choice.		Against standard and Gauss weaponry, the Heavy Gauss is one of the most powerful solid round projectile weapons available. If you regularly use the Gas Cannon with AP shells, the Heavy Gauss can make a reasonable replacement by way of a strength for speed trade off. The ammo packs away better than Gas Cannon shells and has a few more rounds. Note that damage resistance of some of the aliens will play a big role in determining whether AP or Gauss is the better choice.

	Due to the amount of research time it takes to get this, and the fact that its predecessors perform better in combat, it is highly questionable if you should invest your research power and time to ~~devlop~~ this weapon, or start on the Sonic weapons. The only argument for this is if you wish to obtain the craft [[Gauss Cannon]], for an economic advantage. One good reason against this is that it further delays getting the progress on the [[Sonic Oscillator]], for a tactical advantage. There are also the related SWS associated with the craft weapons. In this instance, the [[Displacer/Sonic]] is hands down the best of the pairing due to the severe economic implications caused by the ammunition errors that plague the [[Coelacanth/Gauss]].		Due to the amount of research time it takes to get this, and the fact that its predecessors perform better in combat, it is highly questionable if you should invest your research power and time to develop this weapon, or start on the Sonic weapons. The only argument for this is if you wish to obtain the craft [[Gauss Cannon]], for an economic advantage. One good reason against this is that it further delays getting the progress on the [[Sonic Oscillator]], for a tactical advantage. There are also the related SWS associated with the craft weapons. In this instance, the [[Displacer/Sonic]] is hands down the best of the pairing due to the severe economic implications caused by the ammunition errors that plague the [[Coelacanth/Gauss]].

	== General Firearm Summary ==		== General Firearm Summary ==

4th Cuirassier: /* Heavy Gauss */

2011-01-31T11:01:29Z

Heavy Gauss

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	Against standard and Gauss weaponry, the Heavy Gauss is one of the most powerful solid round projectile weapons available. If you regularly use the Gas Cannon with AP shells, the Heavy Gauss can make a reasonable replacement by way of a strength for speed trade off. The ammo packs away better than Gas Cannon shells and has a few more rounds. Note that damage resistance of some of the aliens will play a big role in determining whether AP or Gauss is the better choice.		Against standard and Gauss weaponry, the Heavy Gauss is one of the most powerful solid round projectile weapons available. If you regularly use the Gas Cannon with AP shells, the Heavy Gauss can make a reasonable replacement by way of a strength for speed trade off. The ammo packs away better than Gas Cannon shells and has a few more rounds. Note that damage resistance of some of the aliens will play a big role in determining whether AP or Gauss is the better choice.

	Due to the amount of research time it takes to get this, and the fact that its ~~earlier prerequisites~~ perform better in combat, it is highly questionable if you should invest your research power and time to devlop this weapon, or start on the Sonic weapons. The only argument for this is if you wish to obtain the craft [[Gauss Cannon]], for an economic advantage. One good reason against this is that it further delays getting the progress on the [[Sonic Oscillator]], for a tactical advantage. There are also the related SWS associated with the craft weapons. In this instance, the [[Displacer/Sonic]] is hands down the best of the pairing due to the severe economic implications caused by the ammunition errors that plague the [[Coelacanth/Gauss]].		Due to the amount of research time it takes to get this, and the fact that its predecessors perform better in combat, it is highly questionable if you should invest your research power and time to devlop this weapon, or start on the Sonic weapons. The only argument for this is if you wish to obtain the craft [[Gauss Cannon]], for an economic advantage. One good reason against this is that it further delays getting the progress on the [[Sonic Oscillator]], for a tactical advantage. There are also the related SWS associated with the craft weapons. In this instance, the [[Displacer/Sonic]] is hands down the best of the pairing due to the severe economic implications caused by the ammunition errors that plague the [[Coelacanth/Gauss]].

	== General Firearm Summary ==		== General Firearm Summary ==

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	[[Weapon Analysis]]		[[Weapon Analysis]]

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