Base Defense (TFTD) - Revision history

Darkpast: added alien deployment table

2021-08-28T10:56:04Z

added alien deployment table

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 *Transmission Resolver, Laboratory, Workshop, M.C. Lab, Torpedo Defences, P.W.T. Defences, M.C. Generator have clear plus-sign corridors.
 *Sonic Defences have doors blocking the corridor on the East side, and have the corridor on the West side blocked by a wall (there are two 1-square doors to allow transit, but not a line of fire).
 == See Also ==

Magic9mushroom: /* To Do */ prelim notes

2020-09-20T13:06:05Z

To Do: prelim notes

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	== To Do ==		== To Do ==

	Discussion of how the module tiles are different (if at all) in TFTD - which ones have clear killing zones, which ones have tricky little hidey holes, etc.		Discussion of how the module tiles are different (if at all) in TFTD - which ones have clear killing zones, which ones have tricky little hidey holes, etc.

			*Sub Pens have torpedo racks complicating LOS on WNW, WSW, ENE entrances, but not ESE or N/S.
			*Living Quarters, Standard/Wide Sonar, Bombardment Shield have doors blocking the corridor on the West side.
			*General Stores has doors blocking the corridor on the North and South sides.
			*Alien Containment has doors blocking the corridor on the West side. Door is only 1 square wide!
			*Transmission Resolver, Laboratory, Workshop, M.C. Lab, Torpedo Defences, P.W.T. Defences, M.C. Generator have clear plus-sign corridors.
			*Sonic Defences have doors blocking the corridor on the East side, and have the corridor on the West side blocked by a wall (there are two 1-square doors to allow transit, but not a line of fire).

	== See Also ==		== See Also ==

Magic9mushroom: /* General Discussion */ re: talk page

2020-09-20T04:36:17Z

General Discussion: re: talk page

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	For now, here are a few bare facts:		For now, here are a few bare facts:

	* TFTD Aliens can spawn in Living Quarters~~, Alien Containment~~ and ~~Sonic Defenses~~, in addition to Airlocks and Sub Pens.		* TFTD Aliens can spawn in Living Quarters and Bombardment Shields, in addition to Airlocks and Sub Pens. This is the case even if there are enough [[Sub Pens]].
	* A standard Base Defence Layout Strategy is still mostly effective, just beware your "rear" will never be totally safe until you secure all the Living Quarters~~, Alien Containment~~ and ~~Sonic Defenses~~.		* A standard Base Defence Layout Strategy is still mostly effective, just beware your "rear" will never be totally safe until you secure all the Living Quarters and the Bombardment Shield (if present).
	* The 80 item limit from Enemy Unknown has been raised to 110 and the order of including/excluding weapons has changed (in ways which still need detailed investigation). For example, sonic and gauss weapons are included within the 110 available items in preference to some of the standard starting weapons.		* The 80 item limit from Enemy Unknown has been raised to 110 and the order of including/excluding weapons has changed (in ways which still need detailed investigation). For example, sonic and gauss weapons are included within the 110 available items in preference to some of the standard starting weapons.

Hobbes: /* General Discussion */ additional facilities where aliens can spawn

2017-05-11T22:32:59Z

General Discussion: additional facilities where aliens can spawn

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	For now, here are a few bare facts:		For now, here are a few bare facts:

	* TFTD Aliens can spawn ~~outside (but near~~ to~~) their normal spawn points, i.e.~~ Airlocks and Sub Pens. A standard Base Defence Layout Strategy is still mostly effective, just beware your "rear" ~~is not~~ totally secure.		* TFTD Aliens can spawn in Living Quarters, Alien Containment and Sonic Defenses, in addition to Airlocks and Sub Pens.
			* A standard Base Defence Layout Strategy is still mostly effective, just beware your "rear" will never be totally safe until you secure all the Living Quarters, Alien Containment and Sonic Defenses.
	* The 80 item limit from Enemy Unknown has been raised to 110 and the order of including/excluding weapons has changed (in ways which still need detailed investigation). For example, sonic and gauss weapons are included within the 110 available items in preference to some of the standard starting weapons.		* The 80 item limit from Enemy Unknown has been raised to 110 and the order of including/excluding weapons has changed (in ways which still need detailed investigation). For example, sonic and gauss weapons are included within the 110 available items in preference to some of the standard starting weapons.

Magic9mushroom at 10:17, 1 May 2015

2015-05-01T10:17:36Z

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	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
	The main article on [[Base ~~Defense~~]], though it is focused on UFO: Enemy Unknown (XCom 1).		The main article on [[Base Defence]], though it is focused on UFO: Enemy Unknown (XCom 1).


	{{Mission Types Navbar (TFTD)}}		{{Mission Types Navbar (TFTD)}}
	[[Category: TFTD]]		[[Category: TFTD]]

Cesium at 18:36, 18 February 2010

2010-02-18T18:36:12Z

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	{{Mission Types Navbar (TFTD)}}		{{Mission Types Navbar (TFTD)}}
			[[Category: TFTD]]

Cesium at 14:46, 31 December 2009

2009-12-31T14:46:44Z

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	* TFTD Aliens can spawn outside (but near to) their normal spawn points, i.e. Airlocks and Sub Pens. A standard Base Defence Layout Strategy is still mostly effective, just beware your "rear" is not totally secure.		* TFTD Aliens can spawn outside (but near to) their normal spawn points, i.e. Airlocks and Sub Pens. A standard Base Defence Layout Strategy is still mostly effective, just beware your "rear" is not totally secure.

	* The 80 item limit from Enemy Unknown has been raised to 110 and the order of including/excluding weapons has changed (in ways which still need detailed investigation). For example, sonic and gauss weapons are included within the 80 available items in preference to some of the standard starting weapons.		* The 80 item limit from Enemy Unknown has been raised to 110 and the order of including/excluding weapons has changed (in ways which still need detailed investigation). For example, sonic and gauss weapons are included within the 110 available items in preference to some of the standard starting weapons.

	== To Do ==		== To Do ==

Hobbes: /* General Discussion */

2009-12-31T01:40:18Z

General Discussion

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	* TFTD Aliens can spawn outside (but near to) their normal spawn points, i.e. Airlocks and Sub Pens. A standard Base Defence Layout Strategy is still mostly effective, just beware your "rear" is not totally secure.		* TFTD Aliens can spawn outside (but near to) their normal spawn points, i.e. Airlocks and Sub Pens. A standard Base Defence Layout Strategy is still mostly effective, just beware your "rear" is not totally secure.

	* The 80 item limit ~~still applies, but~~ the order of including/excluding weapons has changed (in ways which still need detailed investigation). For example, sonic and gauss weapons are included within the 80 available items in preference to some of the standard starting weapons.		* The 80 item limit from Enemy Unknown has been raised to 110 and the order of including/excluding weapons has changed (in ways which still need detailed investigation). For example, sonic and gauss weapons are included within the 80 available items in preference to some of the standard starting weapons.

	== To Do ==		== To Do ==

Zombie: /* See Also */ Added Navbar.

2009-01-06T05:13:00Z

Spike: /* General Discussion */ took NKF suggestion to pare this down and move to Talk

2008-10-10T14:07:52Z

General Discussion: took NKF suggestion to pare this down and move to Talk

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	== General Discussion ==		== General Discussion ==

	~~For~~ TFTD Base Defence missions, there is mention in some articles that the spawn points are different, that aliens will routinely appear in places other than the Airlock and Sub Pens (not just if the aliens run out of their own spawn points).		This section is "under construction". Please see the associated Discussion page for initial musings about TFTD Base Defence.

	~~From personal experience (one Base Defence so far!)~~, the spawn points do appear to be different, it looks like perhaps some of the aliens can spawn in adjacent modules to the usual spawn points, while most of them spawn in the usual modules. Or did I read somewhere that they start in the normal modules but get 1-2 turns free movement? I don't think so, as I had 2-3 aliens who were nearly the whole way on the right hand side of the base, when the access lift "channel" on the extreme left side of the base. So I think they teleport/leak through into adjacent modules to the sub pens and access lifts.		For now, here are a few bare facts:

	~~Still, the overwhelming majority of aliens were in the~~ normal spawn points ~~- sub pens~~ and ~~access lift - so a few leaking behind the lines does not invalidate the overall~~ Base Defence ~~strategy~~.		* TFTD Aliens can spawn outside (but near to) their normal spawn points, i.e. Airlocks and Sub Pens. A standard Base Defence Layout Strategy is still mostly effective, just beware your "rear" is not totally secure.

	~~: I think it's the module adjacent to the airlock or sub pens. One way would be to ensure that~~ the ~~sub pens and airlock are separated from the rest~~ of ~~the base with the good old one-chokepoint base strategy for the primary base. Perhaps with a slightly longer chokepoint.~~		* The 80 item limit still applies, but the order of including/excluding weapons has changed (in ways which still need detailed investigation). For example, sonic and gauss weapons are included within the 80 available items in preference to some of the standard starting weapons.

	~~: For smaller sonar~~/intercept outpost, just throw everything down at random. With aquanauts appearing from all directions, spawning one module along means little. On the bright side, f the aliens start closer, the better the opportunity to use the power tools!

	: One thing to check is that this isn't a result of having too few alien spawn points. It's very unlikely as I've had a 3 sub pen base have aliens start in adjacent modules, but you never know. Really small one-or-no-sub-pen bases tend to suffer from this. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 00:45, 10 October 2008 (CDT)

	~~----~~

	~~Some more points about TFTD Base Defence missions: underwater-only~~ weapons (~~HJ Cannon, Torp launchers, etc) are automatically excluded from your 80 item limit, so you don't~~ need ~~to sell/transfer them. This was a help for me because a battleship hit me with no warning (near end of February on Superhuman~~). ~~I did not get anything on sonar (long range and short range). Possibly it was because I had time advance set to 1 Hr~~, ~~but you would still expect to get a popup box~~ and ~~for~~ the ~~clock to stop when the incoming battleship is detected. No such luck for me.~~

	~~:They still show up as~~ items ~~that you can equip, as I've had cases where the remainder of my Aquanauts had nothing else~~ to ~~arm but~~ some ~~hydrojet cannons. They can be fired with reaction fire, but being one~~ of the ~~slower snap~~ weapons ~~and the fact the TFTD aliens seem less inclined to rove about as much as their UFO cousins, the HJC's don't inspire very much confidence.~~

	~~: A general land based feature that you can enjoy during base defence is improved phosphor performance and explosions appear to be much more destructive to terrain featues~~. ~~At the very least you'll get the skull flames instead of bubbles. Not strictly exclusive to base defense, but worth knowing. -[[User:NKF\|NKF]] 00:45, 10 October 2008 (CDT)~~

	== To Do ==		== To Do ==

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	== See Also ==		== See Also ==
			The main article on [[Base Defense]], though it is focused on UFO: Enemy Unknown (XCom 1).

	~~The main article on [[Base Defense]], though it is focused on UFO: Enemy Unknown~~ (~~XCom 1~~).
			{{Mission Types Navbar (TFTD)}}