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User talk:Morgan525

2012-10-05T00:22:31Z

Lowpro:

=Questions&Feedback=
Any questions or feedback one may have.... (please be sure to leave a signature: "~" three times in a row, four to time-and-date stamp it.)

'''FYI: I've created a new [[UFOextender|UFO Extender page]]. If you are having a problem on this, please use the discussion page located there. If your message is about UFO Extender, you can leave it here but I may start copying it to the UFO page and leaving my reply there.'''

== Decompiled accuracy algorithm? ==
Hi Morgan/Tycho

Is the algorithm you describe above, what you have decompiled from the standard game? Or is it a variant for UFOExtender? Great news if you have decompiled what the game actually uses - I will need to check some of my firepower calculations to make sure they are still in line with the algorithm.

cheers,
[[User:Spike|Spike]] 09:37, 30 June 2012 (EDT)

''It is an extender version of the original formula if one chooses to enable it. The original is the one that has been noted already: [1+(3/UFOsize)]/2 * Weapon Accuracy ... UFO sizes going from 5 for very small to 1 for very large. The calculation starts at offset 0x446DCD of the CE version. The original UFO accuracy algorithm is a flat 60% chance to hit despite the difficulty level (and no penalty for the Xcraft being in cautious mode.)''

[[User:Morgan525|Tycho]] 19:23, 30 June 2012 (EDT)

== Question on new Installation ==

Going through the same steps from the UFO Extended page.

However every time I try to launch through Steam or within the installation file I crash. I am wondering if it's because the newer versions of UFO extender here: http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=File:UFOLoader.zip is just a patcher.dll file.

[[User:Lowpro|Lowpro]] 21:22, 3 October 2012 (EDT)

:''maybe. You will need to download the full version and then download the latest patch file. This is a problem when people make links directly to the file and not the download page. Follow the link on my page to the download section. Download both files, extract the full version into your game folder, then extract the patch into the same folder and choose 'yes' to overwrite the current file. If your still getting an error, you'll need to contact the person who wrote the UFO Extended page. You might need to configure your steam shortcut in some way.-'' [[User:Morgan525|Tycho]] 22:44, 3 October 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for the reply. I'll give you my rundown and maybe we can track down my issue. I followed your page but again I'm taken to the File:UFOLoader.zip page. I downloaded the August 6th version which has: COPYING, ENGLISH.DAT, patcher.dll, UFOExtender.ini and its Readme.txt file,UFOLoader.exe, and a version txt. After I extract that to my XCOM installation folder I also download the latest patcher.dll file (The September 27th version) and overwrite.

When I try to launch the game through Steam, I crash (screenshot of the error http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/chipkimble/XCOMerror_zps7c86e23e.png) . When I choose the the "Launch Windows 9x/XP Version I crashs"

When I drag-and-drop the "UFO Defense.exe" over my "dosbox.exe" I crash. I do this because previously I used the UFO Extender steps found here http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1146530 and part of launching without crashing meant I had to drag and drop the UFO Defense.exe file. However with that particular 2010 version I'd crash as soon as I researched some live aliens (be it researching a Medic or a Soldier etc)

I'm trying to play catch-up at the moment with troublefixes but can't find a golden one yet.

Thanks again!

[[User:Lowpro|Lowpro]] 20:22, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

== Source ==

Hi Tycho

Do you make the source code for TFTD Extender and UFO Extender available somewhere? I'm interested in seeing if I can help to hunt down bugs / develop new features. Cheers, [[User:Spike|Spike]] 08:23, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

:''I'm getting to it. Tonight is the first time I have been able to look at the code. I did manage to find the problem with the loader and the game executable. -''[[User:Morgan525|Tycho]]

User talk:Morgan525

2012-10-05T00:21:36Z

Lowpro: /* Source */

=Questions&Feedback=
Any questions or feedback one may have.... (please be sure to leave a signature: "~" three times in a row, four to time-and-date stamp it.)

'''FYI: I've created a new [[UFOextender|UFO Extender page]]. If you are having a problem on this, please use the discussion page located there. If your message is about UFO Extender, you can leave it here but I may start copying it to the UFO page and leaving my reply there.'''

== Decompiled accuracy algorithm? ==
Hi Morgan/Tycho

Is the algorithm you describe above, what you have decompiled from the standard game? Or is it a variant for UFOExtender? Great news if you have decompiled what the game actually uses - I will need to check some of my firepower calculations to make sure they are still in line with the algorithm.

cheers,
[[User:Spike|Spike]] 09:37, 30 June 2012 (EDT)

''It is an extender version of the original formula if one chooses to enable it. The original is the one that has been noted already: [1+(3/UFOsize)]/2 * Weapon Accuracy ... UFO sizes going from 5 for very small to 1 for very large. The calculation starts at offset 0x446DCD of the CE version. The original UFO accuracy algorithm is a flat 60% chance to hit despite the difficulty level (and no penalty for the Xcraft being in cautious mode.)''

[[User:Morgan525|Tycho]] 19:23, 30 June 2012 (EDT)

== Question on new Installation ==

Going through the same steps from the UFO Extended page.

However every time I try to launch through Steam or within the installation file I crash. I am wondering if it's because the newer versions of UFO extender here: http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=File:UFOLoader.zip is just a patcher.dll file.

[[User:Lowpro|Lowpro]] 21:22, 3 October 2012 (EDT)

:''maybe. You will need to download the full version and then download the latest patch file. This is a problem when people make links directly to the file and not the download page. Follow the link on my page to the download section. Download both files, extract the full version into your game folder, then extract the patch into the same folder and choose 'yes' to overwrite the current file. If your still getting an error, you'll need to contact the person who wrote the UFO Extended page. You might need to configure your steam shortcut in some way.-'' [[User:Morgan525|Tycho]] 22:44, 3 October 2012 (EDT)

== Source ==

Hi Tycho

Do you make the source code for TFTD Extender and UFO Extender available somewhere? I'm interested in seeing if I can help to hunt down bugs / develop new features. Cheers, [[User:Spike|Spike]] 08:23, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

:''I'm getting to it. Tonight is the first time I have been able to look at the code. I did manage to find the problem with the loader and the game executable. -''[[User:Morgan525|Tycho]]

Thanks for the reply. I'll give you my rundown and maybe we can track down my issue. I followed your page but again I'm taken to the File:UFOLoader.zip page. I downloaded the August 6th version which has: COPYING, ENGLISH.DAT, patcher.dll, UFOExtender.ini and its Readme.txt file,UFOLoader.exe, and a version txt. After I extract that to my XCOM installation folder I also download the latest patcher.dll file (The September 27th version) and overwrite.

When I try to launch the game through Steam, I crash (screenshot of the error http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/chipkimble/XCOMerror_zps7c86e23e.png) . When I choose the the "Launch Windows 9x/XP Version I crashs"

When I drag-and-drop the "UFO Defense.exe" over my "dosbox.exe" I crash. I do this because previously I used the UFO Extender steps found here http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1146530 and part of launching without crashing meant I had to drag and drop the UFO Defense.exe file. However with that particular 2010 version I'd crash as soon as I researched some live aliens (be it researching a Medic or a Soldier etc)

I'm trying to play catch-up at the moment with troublefixes but can't find a golden one yet.

Thanks again!

User talk:Morgan525

2012-10-04T01:22:25Z

Lowpro:

User talk:Morgan525

2012-10-04T01:22:01Z

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